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TrollDattHoe
01-09-2011, 04:54 PM
just because he won 1 playoff game. phuckin rediculous, no words.

-=Zeus=-!
01-09-2011, 04:56 PM
Check his QB rating in those games, on the road.

EpicFailRobot
01-09-2011, 05:04 PM
Or I could check his ring finger?



Seems like he's missing something.

-=Zeus=-!
01-09-2011, 05:04 PM
Haters gonna hate. He will soon enough

griepes
01-09-2011, 05:07 PM
Or I could check his ring finger?



Seems like he's missing something.This is his third year starting.

Location:Oakland lol

TrollDattHoe
01-09-2011, 05:07 PM
Haters gonna hate. He will soon enough

It's fine for u to think that, but until he does, he's not on elite status.

EpicFailRobot
01-09-2011, 05:08 PM
This is his third year starting.

Location:Oakland lol

exactly. He's not in Brady's realm. oh wait, Brady is done, sorry to break it to you.

Greg1983
01-09-2011, 05:10 PM
It's fine for u to think that, but until he does, he's not on elite status.

Manning and Brees sure as hell needed more than 3 tries to get one.

Erik2806
01-09-2011, 05:12 PM
too premature to say something like that...hes definitely on his way by the looks of it though. gotta get one of dem rings

TrollDattHoe
01-09-2011, 05:13 PM
Manning and Brees sure as hell needed more than 3 tries to get one.

But do they have one?

wsuwarrior
01-09-2011, 05:14 PM
Yea I know right? LOL.


Rodgers is much better than those guys.

CCAurora
01-09-2011, 05:15 PM
Manning and Brees sure as hell needed more than 3 tries to get one.

All Rodgers needed was one snap for Pack fans to gargle his semen.

Here's what's pimp about Troy Aikman - ask him if Rodgers is on HIS level. He's 10x more logical with his own legacy. Troy would LOL and say politely, "well... not just yet..."

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 06:18 PM
just because he won 1 playoff game. phuckin rediculous, no words.

I think he meant rodgers will eventually be on their level.

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 06:33 PM
brady/manning are on the top tier

everyone else is below them

Your Dad
01-09-2011, 06:35 PM
He is on Mannings level, but King Brady is on a level of his own.

BRB 36 TDs 4 INTs
BRB 335 passes no INTs
BRB GOAT.

folly412
01-09-2011, 06:40 PM
Still only 21 points for the offense and pretty much gave 7 back on the fumble, plus he had a running back for pretty much the first time all seson. Let's see if he can light it up the rest of the season...if not, I'd postpone judgment until I see him next year with the four or five key offensive players that are on IR.

mojo85
01-09-2011, 06:55 PM
But do they have one?

Dan Marino never got one either, guess he isnt at Brady/Manning level is he?

mojo85
01-09-2011, 06:56 PM
[QUOTE=Your Dad;608168723]He is on Mannings level, but King Brady is on a level of his own.

BRB 36 TDs 4 INTs
BRB 335 passes no INTs
BRB GOATUOTE]

oh lawd

Erik2806
01-09-2011, 06:58 PM
Yea I know right? LOL.


Rodgers is much better than those guys.

yea bro...brady is done..... but you already knew this...

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Dan Marino never got one either, guess he isnt at Brady/Manning level is he?

Brady > Marino

semenreleaser
01-09-2011, 07:00 PM
Brady is the best, but Rodgers is really close. He was amazing versus the Eagles. I am a Ravens fan by the way.

Konzales
01-09-2011, 07:14 PM
yea bro...brady is done..... but you already knew this...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpUNF3GRjbiV_vAHKIdi3MOjU_BAIyw vr-qjohLpl-7pkJpTiO6Q

Packers64
01-09-2011, 07:14 PM
ok ill make sure and listen to a phaggot named trolldathoe on an internet forum instead of a hall of famer.

mojo85
01-09-2011, 07:16 PM
Brady > Marino

lol no....no...

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:17 PM
lol no....no...

lolwut?

mojo85
01-09-2011, 07:23 PM
lolwut?

Brady is not a better QB then Marino. Rings or not.

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 07:26 PM
Brady is not a better QB then Marino. Rings or not.

notsureifserious

Brady haters are losing their minds

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
Brady is not a better QB then Marino. Rings or not.

youre right bro. hes washed up

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
youre right bro. hes washed up

brady is done hes nothing special anymore. he never threw 50 tds it was more like 5

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:35 PM
brady is done hes nothing special anymore. he never threw 50 tds it was more like 5

even the year he threw 50 tds he also thew like 30 ints. so overrated

rampagefc77
01-09-2011, 07:35 PM
Career wise no, but current play? I don't see why not...

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 07:36 PM
even the year he threw 50 tds he also thew like 30 ints. so overrated

he cant even win a sb ring

brady = overrated system qb

this year 36 picks 4 tds = fail

mojo85
01-09-2011, 07:37 PM
notsureifserious

Brady haters are losing their minds

ntsrifsrs, he arguably hasnt even been the greatest QB of the decade.

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:37 PM
he cant even win a sb ring

brady = overrated system qb

this year 36 picks 4 tds = fail
you saw what cassel did when he got put into the system

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 07:40 PM
ntsrifsrs, he arguably hasnt even been the greatest QB of the decade.

ya hes washed up

mojo85
01-09-2011, 07:43 PM
ya hes washed up

that all you got to say, strong argument, glad to see your proving me wrong.

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:44 PM
that all you got to say, strong argument, glad to see your proving me wrong.

i dont even think this is debatable

TAWS6
01-09-2011, 07:45 PM
that all you got to say, strong argument, glad to see your proving me wrong.

brady cant even complete a pass without throwing a pick 6

mojo85
01-09-2011, 07:50 PM
i dont even think this is debatable

How is it not? Brady has rarely led the top passing statistics for the past 10 years, and the times where he was in the top 5 Manning has been a head of him. Rings arent everything.

magicmatt
01-09-2011, 07:53 PM
How is it not? Brady has rarely led the top passing statistics for the past 10 years, and the times where he was in the top 5 Manning has been a head of him. Rings arent everything.

lol @ stats

how about wins?

semenreleaser
01-09-2011, 07:53 PM
How is it not? Brady has rarely led the top passing statistics for the past 10 years, and the times where he was in the top 5 Manning has been a head of him. Rings arent everything.

Brady owns Manning in clutch situations. The only qb that has been better in the clutch in Montana.

Your Dad
01-09-2011, 07:57 PM
How is it not? Brady has rarely led the top passing statistics for the past 10 years, and the times where he was in the top 5 Manning has been a head of him. Rings arent everything.

More than half of his career Peasant Manning has thrown more than 14 INTs, while King Brady has never thrown more than 14.

Rarely led the passin statistics, lawl. Peasant Manning has lead the league in QB rating 3 times, Brady has lead it twice even though that peasant played 4 seasons longer than him.

King Brady has also ALWAYS been in the top 10 in QB rating every season, cant say the same for that pesant.

Just to add insult to injury, 50 TDs 8 INTs, 36 TDs 4 INTs, 3 SB rings, higher career QB rating than that peasant and actually earned his 2 (he'll win this year) MVP awards, unlike that peasant who didnt deserve it last year and didnt deserve it in 2003 when he shared it with Steve McNair.

How is this even a debate?

mojo85
01-09-2011, 08:03 PM
lol @ stats

how about wins?

141 (150 including playoffs) for Manning
111 (125 including playoffs) for Brady

Manning has 2 more seasons played, not 4. Brady being injured is not counted as a detriment to Manning...

And did you just lol at stats? The way pretty much every player is judged by? Wow...

Antonio519
01-09-2011, 08:09 PM
Lets be reality, the only qb in the league thats better than rodgers is cutler

ltdan2152
01-09-2011, 08:16 PM
Dan Marino never got one either, guess he isnt at Brady/Manning level is he?

Marino=Rodgers

Rodgers puts up good stats, its just that all of these comparisons are premature.

anyone can make the case that by stats he is ranked 4-9 as a top qb

kethnaab
01-09-2011, 08:20 PM
he's not there...yet

heavy emphasis on the "yet"

lovebbing
01-09-2011, 08:21 PM
lol no....no...

wow.....

if bradys career ended today hed be a better quarterback than marino. let alone he has the rest of this season and a few more years left in him. it wouldnt be crazy at all to say that Brady could have the record 5 rings before hes done....

as for rodgers, only qb in history to throw 4000+ yards in his first two seasons. he will be great one day.....

SpiderSense
01-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Rodgers worst season he coasted to a 2:1 TD/INT

mojo85
01-09-2011, 08:33 PM
wow.....

if bradys career ended today hed be a better quarterback than marino. let alone he has the rest of this season and a few more years left in him. it wouldnt be crazy at all to say that Brady could have the record 5 rings before hes done....

as for rodgers, only qb in history to throw 4000+ yards in his first two seasons. he will be great one day.....


Jesus H. Christ.....HOW can you justify saying that?

brb_ballin
01-09-2011, 08:36 PM
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5087245/Packers-Gonna-Pack.jpg

TrollDattHoe
01-11-2011, 12:49 AM
How is it not? Brady has rarely led the top passing statistics for the past 10 years, and the times where he was in the top 5 Manning has been a head of him. Rings arent everything.

uh yah...they are. Whey else would u play the game?

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 04:11 AM
More than half of his career Peasant Manning has thrown more than 14 INTs, while King Brady has never thrown more than 14.

Rarely led the passin statistics, lawl. Peasant Manning has lead the league in QB rating 3 times, Brady has lead it twice even though that peasant played 4 seasons longer than him.

King Brady has also ALWAYS been in the top 10 in QB rating every season, cant say the same for that pesant.

Just to add insult to injury, 50 TDs 8 INTs, 36 TDs 4 INTs, 3 SB rings, higher career QB rating than that peasant and actually earned his 2 (he'll win this year) MVP awards, unlike that peasant who didnt deserve it last year and didnt deserve it in 2003 when he shared it with Steve McNair.

How is this even a debate?



ROFL Peasant Manning? Really? Despite everything Brady has done in the postseason, and let's be real if not for the postseason he wouldn't be so highly talked about (no I'm not saying ignore it, but he shines in the playoffs). Mr. efficient Tom Brady still has yet to accomplish a perfect rating. You can google the names of those that have though.


Peasant Manning has also never thrown for less than 25 TDs in a season nor has he ever thrown for less than 3700 yards in a season in only 2 more seasons than Brady Manning has tossed 20,084 more yards, 138 more TDs, and 103 more INTs. That's an 8 year career for most QBs...

QBs with similar numbers to the excess Manning has over Brady.


Excess: 20,084 138 - 103
Dilfer: 20,518 113 - 129
Vick: 14,609 93 - 58
Rivers: 19,661 136 - 58
Hasselbeck: 29,514 174 - 122
Roethlisberger: 22,502 144 - 86
Schaub: 15,457 83 - 52
Eli: 22,102 155 - 112
Cutler: 15,964 104 - 79
Palmer: 22,694 154 - 100
Kitna: 29,543 167 - 161


Keep in mind that's how much -more- stats Manning has than Brady in 2 years more work (4 if ya wanna remove the 2 years Brady didn't play) VS the CAREER stats of some peer QBs some of which (but not all) that get brought up as "best."

I'm not saying Peyton is a GOAT, but calling him Peasant? Really? From 2000 to now there has been Brady and Manning the other guys in the league are just not worth debating to this point.

rampagefc77
01-11-2011, 05:24 AM
he's not there...yet

heavy emphasis on the "yet"

Just think of how public opinion of him would have changed if the packers won their playoff game last year... If he threw his 4 tds, ran another, but *gasp* his defense only gave up half the points they did. Suddenly Rodgers looks like a stud, when they only thing that changed is how the defense would have played (something he, as a QB, had absolutely no control over.)

If you only look at QB play, I don't see why we need a "yet." Is his career there yet? no. But his play since he has been in the league has been top 5 since nearly the start. How many years does he need at that level to get into the mix?

Bowyermania
01-11-2011, 06:43 AM
As a Jets fan even I am slowly starting to put Brady over Manning but can people stop citing wins as a stat to why Brady's better? Wins is a team stat, especially in football. You should compare QB's based on individual stats if you want to see which INDIVIDUAL is a better QB. If you were to look at the situation Brady was put in compared to Manning, its not even debatable who has had a bigger impact on his team. Brady has the GOAT coach in NFL history, a strong front office with great talent at drafting prospects, has had a strong veteran led defense for most of his career.

Manning got to a Colts team and after just one season in the league turned them into a competitor. He is the team's head coach and offensive coordinator. He turns no bodies into superstars. You could throw Magicmatt, NY Gym Rat and me out there with him and he would still dominate (well maybe not Magicmatt because he would probably intentionally drop every ball because of his hate for Manning)

Bobby1291
01-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Yeah, don't forget, Belichick is more important to the Patriots than Brady is, and whoever says otherwise doesn't know **** about football. Who does Peyton have? Jim Caldwell? The guy never speaks at all when the camera is on him during the game! While on the Patriots, Bill Belichick is the smartest coach, and it helps to have a really good quarterback.

rsnnh12
01-11-2011, 08:14 AM
141 (150 including playoffs) for Manning
111 (125 including playoffs) for Brady

Manning has 2 more seasons played, not 4. Brady being injured is not counted as a detriment to Manning...

And did you just lol at stats? The way pretty much every player is judged by? Wow...

Notsureifsrs

2 more seasons in the league, 4 more seasons played.

ezmac31
01-11-2011, 08:22 AM
redgers is not on that level yet (but he certainly can be keeping up his level of play and winning big playoff games and a ring or two)...but packers fans already think he is the GOAT. some of the most delusional fans on earth.

rsnnh12
01-11-2011, 08:35 AM
As a Jets fan even I am slowly starting to put Brady over Manning but can people stop citing wins as a stat to why Brady's better? Wins is a team stat, especially in football. You should compare QB's based on individual stats if you want to see which INDIVIDUAL is a better QB. If you were to look at the situation Brady was put in compared to Manning, its not even debatable who has had a bigger impact on his team. Brady has the GOAT coach in NFL history, a strong front office with great talent at drafting prospects, has had a strong veteran led defense for most of his career.

Manning got to a Colts team and after just one season in the league turned them into a competitor. He is the team's head coach and offensive coordinator. He turns no bodies into superstars. You could throw Magicmatt, NY Gym Rat and me out there with him and he would still dominate (well maybe not Magicmatt because he would probably intentionally drop every ball because of his hate for Manning)

Individual stats are based on the team too, especially at the QB position. Depends on WRs running good routes and catching balls, linemen blocking and picking up blitzes, etc etc etc.

Best way to evaluate QBs is to see how they do in the clutch, when it matters most. Brady>Manning in that category


And let's be reality... Manning turning nobodies into stars? Sure, he does. But Brady does too (and does it more often). Moss is the only HOF WR he's had. Welker is no slouch either, but that's it. Manning had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin James, and Dallas Clark. Manning has had MUCH better offensive weapons than Brady.

Brady has a better QB rating indoors and outdoors than Manning, despite playing in the snow for a couple of games a year guaranteed

justin8684
01-11-2011, 08:38 AM
Manning is getting grandfathered into this elite tier of quarterbacks (top 2-3 discussion) based on what he was 5 years ago... over the course of the past three seasons he hasn't been in that class.

Given their number of attempts, Rodgers outproduces Manning by a landslide in terms of yardage and touchdowns. Over the course of the past three seasons, Manning has almost 500 more dropbacks than Rodgers yet he's only accounted for about 200 more total yards of offense and has actually accounted for fewer total touchdowns than Rodgers has over that span. If Rodgers had the number of dropbacks Manning has had the past three years, he'd have almost 3000 more total yards and 30 more total touchdowns.

One of the big things I judge quarterbacks on is how much they're able to produce given their opportunities and given their opportunities, Rodgers gives you much more bang for your buck when he drops back than Manning does.

Jackswack
01-11-2011, 09:25 AM
Mr. efficient Tom Brady still has yet to accomplish a perfect rating.

Are you serious?

Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and at Detroit, November 25, 2010) Perfect Rating


And to reply to your bs about EXCESS stats....


Tom Brady's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
2996/4,710 (63.6%)

Peyton Manning's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
4682/7210 (64.9%)

and Peyton has only 30 more wins in 4 seasons (64 games)

And to people saying championships don't matter, why the hell do team owners bother with their teams then? Their whole point of owning a team is to manage it in a way where they will generate good amounts of revenue and how do you do so? By winning championships..... That's the whole point of the freaking league so how could that stat not matter the most?

magicmatt
01-11-2011, 09:29 AM
Tom Brady's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
2996/4,710 (63.6%)

Peyton Manning's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
4682/7210 (64.9%)



wow, i knew manning threw many more passes but these numbers are mind blowing

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 09:50 AM
Are you serious?

Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and at Detroit, November 25, 2010) Perfect Rating


And to reply to your bs about EXCESS stats....


Tom Brady's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
2996/4,710 (63.6%)

Peyton Manning's lifetime pass completions/attempts:
4682/7210 (64.9%)

and Peyton has only 30 more wins in 4 seasons (64 games)

And to people saying championships don't matter, why the hell do team owners bother with their teams then? Their whole point of owning a team is to manage it in a way where they will generate good amounts of revenue and how do you do so? By winning championships..... That's the whole point of the freaking league so how could that stat not matter the most?

Despite everything Brady has done in the postseason, and let's be real if not for the postseason he wouldn't be so highly talked about (no I'm not saying ignore it, but he shines in the playoffs). Mr. efficient Tom Brady still has yet to accomplish a perfect rating. ....wow was it so hard to realize I meant Brady hadn't tossed a perfect rating in the postseason?


so despite only playing 4 more seasons Peyton has completed almost the same amount of passes Brady has attempted yet kept a higher career completion percentage...how does this hurt anything about Peyton?


Not done anything the last 3 years wtf is this garbage?

THIS YEAR

2nd in Passing Completion %
2nd in Passing Yards
2nd in Passing Touchdowns
10th in Passer Rating (despite high INTs)


And even though he tossed 17 INTs this season, Brees tossed 5 more.

Jackswack
01-11-2011, 10:05 AM
Despite everything Brady has done in the postseason, and let's be real if not for the postseason he wouldn't be so highly talked about (no I'm not saying ignore it, but he shines in the playoffs). Mr. efficient Tom Brady still has yet to accomplish a perfect rating. ....wow was it so hard to realize I meant Brady hadn't tossed a perfect rating in the postseason?


so despite only playing 4 more seasons Peyton has completed almost the same amount of passes Brady has attempted yet kept a higher career completion percentage...how does this hurt anything about Peyton?


Not done anything the last 3 years wtf is this garbage?

THIS YEAR

2nd in Passing Completion %
2nd in Passing Yards
2nd in Passing Touchdowns
10th in Passer Rating (despite high INTs)


And even though he tossed 17 INTs this season, Brees tossed 5 more.

1. You can't compare brady and manning together in passing yards as they both play different styles of offense where OBVIOUSLY manning gets alot more attempts to pass the ball.

2. Strong Non-Sequitur with the manning/brees comparison

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 10:12 AM
1. You can't compare brady and manning together in passing yards as they both play different styles of offense where OBVIOUSLY manning gets alot more attempts to pass the ball.

2. Strong Non-Sequitur with the manning/brees comparison

1. Then by the same reasoning we can't compare QB rating or INTs

2. It was to quiet the haters on the high INTs this season, cause no one has been downplaying Brees' season, but Manning despite being so high in the top categories is getting called "washed up"


Also I think Rodgers is going to be a stud QB, these 3 seasons he's started he has put up some amazing numbers. But he's not there yet, Brady/Manning have both kept things up for a decade.

rsnnh12
01-11-2011, 10:31 AM
Despite everything Brady has done in the postseason, and let's be real if not for the postseason he wouldn't be so highly talked about (no I'm not saying ignore it, but he shines in the playoffs). Mr. efficient Tom Brady still has yet to accomplish a perfect rating. ....wow was it so hard to realize I meant Brady hadn't tossed a perfect rating in the postseason?


so despite only playing 4 more seasons Peyton has completed almost the same amount of passes Brady has attempted yet kept a higher career completion percentage...how does this hurt anything about Peyton?


Not done anything the last 3 years wtf is this garbage?

THIS YEAR

2nd in Passing Completion %
2nd in Passing Yards
2nd in Passing Touchdowns
10th in Passer Rating (despite high INTs)


And even though he tossed 17 INTs this season, Brees tossed 5 more.

Are you serious???? You're discrediting Brady for not having a perfect QB rating in a playoff game, when the QBs with the most perfect ratings OF ALL TIME in the regular season only have 3 each?!?! Peyton, Warner, and Big Ben, in case you were curious. 3 each, in their entire careers, but Brady isn't the best because he doesn't have one in the playoffs? LOL.

Btw- QB ratings in the Super Bowl for Tom Brady- 86.2, 102.6, 110.2, 82.5.... career SB QB rating of 95.1, with 7 TDs to only 1 INT

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 10:33 AM
Manning is getting grandfathered into this elite tier of quarterbacks (top 2-3 discussion) based on what he was 5 years ago... over the course of the past three seasons he hasn't been in that class.

Given their number of attempts, Rodgers outproduces Manning by a landslide in terms of yardage and touchdowns. Over the course of the past three seasons, Manning has almost 500 more dropbacks than Rodgers yet he's only accounted for about 200 more total yards of offense and has actually accounted for fewer total touchdowns than Rodgers has over that span. If Rodgers had the number of dropbacks Manning has had the past three years, he'd have almost 3000 more total yards and 30 more total touchdowns.

One of the big things I judge quarterbacks on is how much they're able to produce given their opportunities and given their opportunities, Rodgers gives you much more bang for your buck when he drops back than Manning does.


Really? .6 of a yard makes that big of a deal to you? As for TDs Rodgers averages one every 18 tosses, Manning 19. I just don't see that big of a change in it all to be honest. I mean Manning is still more accurate even with all the extra passes by nearly 3%

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 10:38 AM
Are you serious???? You're discrediting Brady for not having a perfect QB rating in a playoff game, when the QBs with the most perfect ratings OF ALL TIME in the regular season only have 3 each?!?! Peyton, Warner, and Big Ben, in case you were curious. 3 each, in their entire careers, but Brady isn't the best because he doesn't have one in the playoffs? LOL.

Btw- QB ratings in the Super Bowl for Tom Brady- 86.2, 102.6, 110.2, 82.5.... career SB QB rating of 95.1, with 7 TDs to only 1 INT

Not discrediting him I'm saying that despite all he's done and how much people bash Manning cause of his playoff record and performances, Manning still has a perfect rating in a game and Brady has not.

It's a stat that can be deemed meaningless, but it's not opinion. Manning also holds the NFL record for highest regular season QB rating. This isn't a Brady/Manning argument though they are the top 2 in the game now and have been for awhile. But I have no clue how someone could call either of them washed up or fading...or that Manning has been "grandfathered" into the elite QB talks because of his work 5 years ago when this season he was in the tops of every major category.

justin8684
01-11-2011, 12:00 PM
Really? .6 of a yard makes that big of a deal to you? As for TDs Rodgers averages one every 18 tosses, Manning 19. I just don't see that big of a change in it all to be honest. I mean Manning is still more accurate even with all the extra passes by nearly 3%

I'm not just talking about passing statistics, I'm talking total offense (passing and rushing). Rodgers can throw from the pocket, throw on the move, and kill you with his legs. Manning likes to sit back in his safe little pocket and be comfortable... as soon as he loses that comfort, he becomes erratic. Rodgers is a more dangerous and efficient offensive weapon than Manning is... the numbers prove it since he became a starter three years ago.

And as far as completion percentage goes... please. Rodgers could complete 68% of his passes too if he got to play half of his games indoors with a controlled temperature and no wind conditions to account for like Manning does.

RalphNader420
01-11-2011, 12:23 PM
even the year he threw 50 tds he also thew like 30 ints. so overrated

More like 8 interceptionz broa



Rodgers is a fudgepacker

Ecnewyx
01-11-2011, 12:50 PM
Yeah, don't forget, Belichick is more important to the Patriots than Brady is, and whoever says otherwise doesn't know **** about football. Who does Peyton have? Jim Caldwell? The guy never speaks at all when the camera is on him during the game! While on the Patriots, Bill Belichick is the smartest coach, and it helps to have a really good quarterback.

Wouldn't go that far but Caldwell has dropped the ball now in two big games (Super Bowl last year and against the Jets this year.)

magicmatt
01-11-2011, 12:54 PM
More like 8 interceptionz broa



Rodgers is a fudgepacker

that was a joke cuaz

Ecnewyx
01-11-2011, 12:58 PM
Are you serious???? You're discrediting Brady for not having a perfect QB rating in a playoff game, when the QBs with the most perfect ratings OF ALL TIME in the regular season only have 3 each?!?! Peyton, Warner, and Big Ben, in case you were curious. 3 each, in their entire careers, but Brady isn't the best because he doesn't have one in the playoffs? LOL.

Btw- QB ratings in the Super Bowl for Tom Brady- 86.2, 102.6, 110.2, 82.5.... career SB QB rating of 95.1, with 7 TDs to only 1 INT

Brady has 2 perfect passer rating games in the regular season? Peyton has 4.

Not very many QBs have perfect passer ratings in the playoffs period. Why is that even a relevant stat? Brady also throws a lot of safe screen passes that don't go for great yardage which makes it less likely for him to achieve a perfect rating (while, ironically, more likely to achieve a GOOD rating).

rsnnh12
01-11-2011, 01:17 PM
Brady has 2 perfect passer rating games in the regular season? Peyton has 4.

Not very many QBs have perfect passer ratings in the playoffs period. Why is that even a relevant stat? Brady also throws a lot of safe screen passes that don't go for great yardage which makes it less likely for him to achieve a perfect rating (while, ironically, more likely to achieve a GOOD rating).

That's what I'm sayin. No idea why that guy brought up perfect QB ratings :/


Brady also has 2 playoff games where he completed 80+% of his passes, including 1 with almost 93% (which is a record). Manning doesn't.

Manning is obviously a great QB, but Brady is more consistent in the playoffs, and MUCH better in Super Bowls.

TAWS6
01-11-2011, 02:08 PM
Manning is obviously a great QB, but Brady is more consistent in the playoffs, and MUCH better in Super Bowls.

More consistent is key.

nschell69
01-11-2011, 02:13 PM
Dan Marino never got one either, guess he isnt at Brady/Manning level is he?This all feckin day of the week. The only negative anyone can say for Rodgers is that his TEAM isn't good enough. I'm guessing Tom Brady won those Super Bowls himself eh? I'll actually give you that Manning can change a game like crazy but Brady is the most overrated just like Montana because they were on stacked teams. Marino>>>>>Brady and it's not close.

rsnnh12
01-11-2011, 02:46 PM
This all feckin day of the week. The only negative anyone can say for Rodgers is that his TEAM isn't good enough. I'm guessing Tom Brady won those Super Bowls himself eh? I'll actually give you that Manning can change a game like crazy but Brady is the most overrated just like Montana because they were on stacked teams. Marino>>>>>Brady and it's not close.

I'm guessing Peyton Manning threw the ball to himself eh?

Brady had better all-around teams, Manning had a better offense. Brady gets more wins/rings because of a better team, Manning gets better stats because of a better offense. Marino had some damn solid receivers too

Most important stat in evaluating Brady/Manning (other than comeback wins)- QB rating in Super Bowls, the biggest game, what its all about

Brady- 95.1(86.2, 102.6, 110.2, 82.5) 7 TDs, 1 INT
Manning- 85.4 (81.8, 88.5) 2 TDs, 2 INTs

Hishiad
01-11-2011, 03:11 PM
That's what I'm sayin. No idea why that guy brought up perfect QB ratings :/


Brady also has 2 playoff games where he completed 80+% of his passes, including 1 with almost 93% (which is a record). Manning doesn't.

Manning is obviously a great QB, but Brady is more consistent in the playoffs, and MUCH better in Super Bowls.

Manning is the best Regular season QB of all-time.


With that being said, he has straight up blown it in the playoffs :( The superbowl year the defense carried that team cause Peyton didn't have amazing games. The year they lost in the superbowl Peyton didn't great, until the superbowl and then you can put that lose on his shoulders squarely with little argument...a pick 6? pretty much killed it.


I'd take Manning with any team then come playoffs I'd swap in Brady :) Talk about an unbeatable combination!!!

magicmatt
01-11-2011, 04:27 PM
Brady is the most overrated just like Montana because they were on stacked teams. Marino>>>>>Brady and it's not close.

lol @ stacked teams

best offense in the nfl this year and sent 2 guys to the pro bowl (originally)

scored 500+ points this year for the 13th time in nfl history with rookie te's, undrafted free agent running backs and 30+ wr's

thats your definition of a stacked team?

ChuteBoxeFC
01-11-2011, 04:37 PM
Or I could check his ring finger?



Seems like he's missing something.

LOL @ the ring argument.

I guess Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino since he has a ring.

PatsWinTheSB
01-11-2011, 04:41 PM
lol @ putting Manning anywhere near Tom Brady's level

Bobby1291
01-11-2011, 04:51 PM
lol @ putting Manning anywhere near Tom Brady's level

Yeah he is not anywhere near him. He's MILES above him. Ok not miles, obviously joking, but Brady's got Belichick don't forget, that helps. And if anybody disagrees then you should stop watching football. Oh and for the people that say Brady's better than Peyton because of Super Bowl rings, Brady isn't the only person on the Patriots. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Belichick is more important to the team. Ask anyone, the coach is always more important than the quarterback. At least that's what the football analysts say, but what do they know about football right?

EDIT: Oh and Age: 80

TAWS6
01-11-2011, 07:05 PM
lol i got negged for saying brady is done bro. hahaha strong unaware.

magicmatt
01-11-2011, 07:06 PM
lol i got negged for saying brady is done bro. hahaha strong unaware.

haha that kid was pissed when i said he had like 30int's and 50 td's in 07

TAWS6
01-11-2011, 07:08 PM
haha that kid was pissed when i said he had like 30int's and 50 td's in 07

yeah warbird was unaware.

TrollDattHoe
01-11-2011, 07:28 PM
lol i got negged for saying brady is done bro. hahaha strong unaware.

my brother got negged a few days ago for saying the same thing. I think someone should make a thread just to aware people.

-=Zeus=-!
01-17-2011, 11:05 AM
Troy Aikman is right.

Except hes past their levels.

ATownDRock
01-17-2011, 11:43 AM
Brady and Manning are chilling by their fireplaces. Rodgers is getting ready to play another game.

Haters gonna hate. Rodgers is the most talented QB in the game.

misc_eltoe
01-17-2011, 11:44 AM
Brady and Manning are chilling by their fireplaces. Rodgers is getting ready to play another game.

Haters gonna hate. Rodgers is the most talented QB in the game.

well said

ZBlacktt
01-17-2011, 11:51 AM
Brady is not a better QB then Marino. Rings or not.

I bet Dan wouldn't say he was.....srs. The rings are just the icing on the cake. No disrespect to either at all here too. I watched them both play all of their careers.

SpiderSense
01-17-2011, 12:12 PM
Most important stat in evaluating Brady/Manning (other than comeback wins)- QB rating in Super Bowls, the biggest game, what its all about

Brady- 95.1(86.2, 102.6, 110.2, 82.5) 7 TDs, 1 INT
Manning- 85.4 (81.8, 88.5) 2 TDs, 2 INTs

I noticed the Manning nuthuggers conveniently scrolled past that so quoted and enlarged for emphasis.

kethnaab
01-17-2011, 12:58 PM
I noticed the Manning nuthuggers conveniently scrolled past that so quoted and enlarged for emphasis.

nice effort, but it will be ignored.

griepes
01-17-2011, 01:00 PM
he is.


dealwithit.jpg

Greg1983
06-29-2011, 08:05 PM
Rodgers isn't on their level any more. He's beyond them.

Budly69
06-29-2011, 08:10 PM
Rodgers isn't on their level any more. He's beyond them.

Manning yes, Brady not yet. Gjdm on exposing trolldathoe as an ignorant phaggot.

Greg1983
06-29-2011, 08:14 PM
Manning yes, Brady not yet. Gjdm on exposing trolldathoe as an ignorant phaggot.

He's better than Brady. His career isn't, but his present play is.

jimmyk21
06-29-2011, 08:30 PM
You are doing it wrong if you can say with a straight face you'd take Manning or Brady, or any player in all of football for that matter, over Aaron Rodgers going forward. Dude is young and only getting better. The packers weren't supposed to win the super bowl yet, they are still a very young team and had a lot of injuries to overcome. They did because Rodgers went into god mode. Watch that Atlanta game if you disagree. Watch how many plays he made with his feet. Brady or Manning would have been sacked 10 times in that game.

StrapNScrap21
09-29-2015, 12:28 PM
LeRodgers > Seyton Flabbing http://www.*******.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/jawalrus.png


former Boys great had it right all along http://www.*******.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/jawalrus.png

mcbizkit02
09-29-2015, 12:37 PM
Hard to believe 2011 was 6 years ago.

cncman
09-29-2015, 12:56 PM
rodgers is a beast

woody19
09-29-2015, 01:56 PM
Love Aikman, but lets be real he is still concussed

He is Manning 2.0, but not on that Brady/Montana time

Reliance012
09-29-2015, 02:00 PM
Love Aikman, but lets be real he is still concussed

He is Manning 2.0, but not on that Brady/Montana time

He's better than both.

solidus2k3
09-29-2015, 02:03 PM
brady 3.0