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justin8684
11-28-2010, 09:24 PM
For Tom Brady's passing yardage, passing touchdowns, interceptions, rushing yardage, rushing touchdowns, total yardage, and total touchdowns I took his per game averages over his last 27 games and multiplied them by 43 (the number of games that have been played since the start of the 2008 season). I did this because he's clearly been an elite quarterback the past two years and his numbers shouldn't be shortchanged in those categories because he missed an entire year with an injury.


YARDS PER ATTEMPT
Philip Rivers: 8.7
Drew Brees:8.0
Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tony Romo, Ben Roethlisberger: 7.9
Tom Brady: 7.7
Peyton Manning: 7.6
Eli Manning: 7.4
Kyle Orton: 7.3
Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco: 7.2
Matt Ryan: 7.0

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
Drew Brees: 67.9
Peyton Manning: 67.1
Matt Schaub: 66.4
Tom Brady: 65.9
Philip Rivers: 65.5
Brett Favre: 65.4
Aaron Rodgers: 64.4
Tony Romo: 63.6
Ben Roethlisberger: 63.2
Eli Manning: 62.4
Joe Flacco: 62.2
Jay Cutler: 61.5
Matt Ryan: 61.2
Kyle Orton: 60.8

PASSING YARDAGE
Drew Brees: 12,768
Peyton Manning: 12,296
Philip Rivers: 11,625
Aaron Rodgers: 11,420
Tom Brady: 11,309
Matt Schaub: 10,565
Jay Cutler: 10,503
Kyle Orton: 10,441
Brett Favre: 10,120
Eli Manning: 10,080
Tony Romo: 9,536
Ben Roethlisberger: 9,454
Joe Flacco: 9,306
Matt Ryan: 9,072

PASSING TOUCHDOWNS
Drew Brees: 91
Philip Rivers: 85
Peyton Manning: 92
Tom Brady: 81
Aaron Rodgers: 79
Eli Manning: 71
Jay Cutler: 68
Brett Favre: 65
Tony Romo: 63
Kyle Orton, Matt Schaub: 59
Matt Ryan: 58
Ben Roethlisberger: 55
Joe Flacco: 53

INTERCEPTIONS
Tom Brady: 27
Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers: 29
Tony Romo, Matt Ryan: 30
Ben Roethlisberger: 31
Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub: 32
Peyton Manning: 39
Eli Manning: 40
Drew Brees: 43
Brett Favre: 46
Jay Cutler: 54

QUARTERBACK RATING
Philip Rivers: 105.0
Tom Brady: 99.9
Drew Brees: 99.5
Aaron Rodgers: 98.5
Peyton Manning: 96.6
Matt Schaub: 95.3
Tony Romo: 94.5
Ben Roethlisberger: 92.2
Eli Manning: 90.0
Matt Ryan: 88.9
Brett Favre: 88.4
Kyle Orton: 88.1
Joe Flacco: 87.2
Jay Cutler: 83.4

RUSHING YARDAGE
Aaron Rodgers: 768
Jay Cutler: 562
Ben Roethlisberger: 287
Joe Flacco: 286
Matt Ryan: 235
Kyle Orton: 213
Tony Romo: 184
Philip Rivers: 173
Matt Schaub: 144
Eli Manning: 123
Tom Brady: 92
Brett Favre: 58
Peyton Manning: 2
Drew Brees: -24

RUSHING TOUCHDOWNS
Aaron Rodgers: 13
Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady: 5
Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Joe Flacco: 3
Matt Schaub, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan: 2
Tony Romo, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning: 1

TOTAL YARDAGE
Drew Brees: 12,744
Peyton Manning: 12,294
Aaron Rodgers: 12,188
Philip Rivers: 11,798
Tom Brady: 11,401
Jay Cutler: 11,065
Matt Schaub: 10,709
Kyle Orton: 10,654
Eli Manning: 10,203
Brett Favre: 10,178
Ben Roethlisberger: 9,741
Tony Romo: 9,720
Joe Flacco: 9,592
Matt Ryan: 9,307

TOTAL TOUCHDOWNS
Drew Brees, Peyton Manning: 93
Aaron Rodgers: 92
Philip Rivers: 87
Tom Brady: 86
Eli Manning: 72
Jay Cutler: 71
Brett Favre: 66
Tony Romo: 64
Kyle Orton: 62
Matt Schaub: 61
Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan: 60
Joe Flacco: 56

STA1011
11-28-2010, 09:26 PM
You cant guess Brady's numbers for 2008 because he was coming off a record breaking season and no doubt couldve put up another 35-40 TD year

Erik2806
11-28-2010, 09:27 PM
You cant guess Brady's numbers for 2008 because he was coming off a record breaking season and no doubt couldve put up another 35-40 TD year

this.. you cant possibly come up with an accurate measure...and no, his last 27 games are not an indicator. brady wouldve been fire in 2008.

other than that, interesting stuff though

justin8684
11-28-2010, 09:31 PM
I totally understand where you guys are coming from with Brady and if anything, the way I did it gives a BARE MINIMUM of where he would rank in those categories. Could and would most likely be better in each but I doubt he would be any worse seeing how he's played since the injury.

cor030
11-28-2010, 09:32 PM
look at all those Panthers quarterbacks on that list

feels bad man

lsiberian
11-28-2010, 09:33 PM
When does Brees enter the discussion with Brady and Manning. He's clearly better than Manning at this point IMO. Not sure about Brady though. Brady got his favorite receiver back.

CCAurora
11-28-2010, 09:37 PM
The format is essentially comparing all QB's over their past three seasons. IMO, for Brady, its only fair to use his 2007 stats since that was his most recent season from 2008.

(in before people want that season to "not count," an anti-Brady argument that baffles me. Why would it not count?? It happened as much as any other season in history and is more authentic than a synthetic projection)

JTrain306
11-28-2010, 09:37 PM
I laughed when Aaron Rodgers fumbled at the goalline today, essentially losing the game for the Pack.

rampagefc77
11-28-2010, 09:39 PM
I laughed when Aaron Rodgers fumbled at the goalline today, essentially losing the game for the Pack.

Then you cried when he led a 90 yard TD drive with under 3 minutes left on the road to tie the game?

AriGhold
11-28-2010, 09:39 PM
Then you cried when he led a 90 yard TD drive with under 3 minutes left on the road to tie the game?

and then the part where they lost

rampagefc77
11-28-2010, 09:41 PM
and then the part where they lost

That factors into the QB discussion how? A long kick return and a penalty that basically put the falcons into FG range with under 50 seconds left was Rodger's fault right?

justin8684
11-28-2010, 09:43 PM
Sounds like some Falcon fans are just a little sad that these numbers prove Matt Ryan for what he is in comparison to the other top name quarterbacks in the league... a game manager by comparison to the likes of Rivers, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and Manning.

JTrain306
11-28-2010, 09:45 PM
Then you cried when he led a 90 yard TD drive with under 3 minutes left on the road to tie the game?
LOL thanks for the good laugh (srs)

rampagefc77
11-28-2010, 09:45 PM
LOL thanks for the good laugh (srs)

BRB clutch QBs gonna be clutch.

Jtrains gonna get trained.

Pakman52
11-28-2010, 09:53 PM
I hope the myth that QBs need to be at least 6ft2 will die. Too much skill is involved and can outweigh the height problem.

CCAurora
11-28-2010, 09:56 PM
I hope the myth that QBs need to be at least 6ft2 will die. Too much skill is involved and can outweigh the height problem.

The big issue with that is release height. A QB with a side-arm pass is essentially "playing shorter." That's why mechanics are so important.

Flutie used to jump just to avoid tips. Height can be crucial.

justin8684
11-28-2010, 09:56 PM
That factors into the QB discussion how? A long kick return and a penalty that basically put the falcons into FG range with under 50 seconds left was Rodger's fault right?

I don't get why Rodgers is put into the same stigma with Peyton Manning as being a choker.

In the 2008 season where Green Bay went 6-10, Rodgers led Green Bay on drives that either gave them the lead or tied the game in 5 of those 10 losses only to have his defense let the opposing team march right back down the field with little time left and win the game... another one of those losses came in overtime where Green Bay didn't even get a possession. The only loss Green Bay had that season that was on Rodgers was against Jacksonville.

Last season, Green Bay went 11-5... Rodgers played out of his mind in both losses to the Vikings, hardly a choker in either game. The first game, Donald Lee dropped an easy touchdown pass and in the second game, Rodgers willed Green Bay back from a 17 point deficit to get right back into the game. Against the Steelers, Roethlisberger completed an amazing pass at the end of the game to give them a 1 point win after Rodgers gave Green Bay the lead the drive before. Again... hardly a choke. Again, the only loss this entire season that could be put on Aaron Rodgers was against Tampa Bay. He had one of the greatest single games from a quarterback in NFL Playoff history go down the ****ter because his defense had one of the worst performances in NFL Playoff history. They gave up over 50 points but he continued to make play after play to keep pace with Arizona.

And this season, out of Green Bay's 4 losses, the only one you can put on him is against Washington. He was moving GB against the Bears at the end of the game until James Jones fumbled and today, he tied the game only to have his defense and special teams choke the game away.

With all the close games Green Bay has been in since 2008, he's choked in a whopping total of three of them. If you want to accuse anybody of choking and costing the Packers those games, look at their defense and special teams and point the finger.

rampagefc77
11-28-2010, 10:13 PM
I don't get why Rodgers is put into the same stigma with Peyton Manning as being a choker.

In the 2008 season where Green Bay went 6-10, Rodgers led Green Bay on drives that either gave them the lead or tied the game in 5 of those 10 losses only to have his defense let the opposing team march right back down the field with little time left and win the game... another one of those losses came in overtime where Green Bay didn't even get a possession. The only loss Green Bay had that season that was on Rodgers was against Jacksonville.

Last season, Green Bay went 11-5... Rodgers played out of his mind in both losses to the Vikings, hardly a choker in either game. The first game, Donald Lee dropped an easy touchdown pass and in the second game, Rodgers willed Green Bay back from a 17 point deficit to get right back into the game. Against the Steelers, Roethlisberger completed an amazing pass at the end of the game to give them a 1 point win after Rodgers gave Green Bay the lead the drive before. Again... hardly a choke. Again, the only loss this entire season that could be put on Aaron Rodgers was against Tampa Bay. He had one of the greatest single games from a quarterback in NFL Playoff history go down the ****ter because his defense had one of the worst performances in NFL Playoff history. They gave up over 50 points but he continued to make play after play to keep pace with Arizona.

And this season, out of Green Bay's 4 losses, the only one you can put on him is against Washington. He was moving GB against the Bears at the end of the game until James Jones fumbled and today, he tied the game only to have his defense and special teams choke the game away.

With all the close games Green Bay has been in since 2008, he's choked in a whopping total of three of them. If you want to accuse anybody of choking and costing the Packers those games, look at their defense and special teams and point the finger.

Rodgers was playing safety in each of those losses and got burned every time obviously. What games were you watching?

HumptyBrah
11-28-2010, 10:21 PM
No Alex Smith, lists are fail






















































fuk you

justin8684
11-28-2010, 10:26 PM
I only did the guys who the majority of NFL fans consider to be the big time, top level quarterbacks in the league during that span.

Funny that Bears fans think Cutler is god in the rare games he plays well but he is leading these quarterbacks in interceptions by a landslide and is also in the basement in passer rating.

HumptyBrah
11-28-2010, 10:38 PM
I only did the guys who the majority of NFL fans consider to be the big time, top level quarterbacks in the league during that span.

Funny that Bears fans think Cutler is god in the rare games he plays well but he is leading these quarterbacks in interceptions by a landslide and is also in the basement in passer rating.
lol I was kidding. Alex Smith blows

CCAurora
11-28-2010, 10:46 PM
I don't get why Rodgers is put into the same stigma with Peyton Manning as being a choker.

Its not that Rodgers is seen as a choker; he just hasn't proven that he isn't one yet. All we know as fact right now is that he played one playoff game and fumbled on the last play. That play alone probably won't define his career, but as of right now, that's all there is to go by.

justin8684
11-29-2010, 03:31 AM
Here's another stat of games with a quarterback rating of 100 or better since the start of 2008 out of a possible 43 games

Philip Rivers: 25
Aaron Rodgers: 24
Drew Brees: 23
Peyton Manning, Tony Romo: 18
Brett Favre, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub: 17
Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning: 15
Jay Cutler: 13
Kyle Orton: 10

Tom Brady has 13 games with a passer rating of over 100 the past two seasons (27 games) which would be 21 games as a rough estimate using the same formula I used for his other stats since he missed 2008.

Hoop_Dreams
11-29-2010, 04:25 AM
I see Tony Romo's name a lot.. yet to some people he's just an "average" quarterback.

brb_ballin
11-29-2010, 04:56 AM
Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT

rampagefc77
11-29-2010, 05:43 AM
Its not that Rodgers is seen as a choker; he just hasn't proven that he isn't one yet. All we know as fact right now is that he played one playoff game and fumbled on the last play. That play alone probably won't define his career, but as of right now, that's all there is to go by.

If that is all that you/anyone remembers of his performance from that game then i dont even....

Huse
11-29-2010, 05:46 AM
If that is all that you/anyone remembers of his performance from that game then i dont even....

have the pats peaked yet this year?

rampagefc77
11-29-2010, 06:07 AM
have the pats peaked yet this year?

Remember when you said they did last year then brady had like 3 turnovers and the pats lost first round in a game that wasn't even a contest? Or the year when you said peaking was bull**** then the pats lost in the SB to a team they beat only a few weeks before?

yovi pls go before you embarass yourself again.

(pats are a solid team tho this year, should be a good matchup in a few weeks against the packers).

Huse
11-29-2010, 07:54 AM
Remember when you said they did last year then brady had like 3 turnovers and the pats lost first round in a game that wasn't even a contest? Or the year when you said peaking was bull**** then the pats lost in the SB to a team they beat only a few weeks before?

yovi pls go before you embarass yourself again.

(pats are a solid team tho this year, should be a good matchup in a few weeks against the packers).lol it is bull****. Brb pats peak and Brady had perfect game against jaguars and they beat changers in afc title game. Gb game should be good. But its at ne and pats are playing dope

CCAurora
11-29-2010, 08:45 AM
If that is all that you/anyone remembers of his performance from that game then i dont even....

I never said it was. Retract the claws, Pack homer...

Rodgers has not proven that he can win a big game. That doesn't mean he never will, but it hasn't happened yet. If you would have told someone after the 1984 season that Dan Marino would never play in another Super Bowl, they would have laughed at you. Look how that turned out. Better QB's have done less than Rodgers fans blindly assume he will do. Pretty ridiculous.

If Rodgers fans would stop acting like he's accomplished things he hasn't, there might not be such a negative backlash...

GeorgeCarlinJr
11-29-2010, 10:54 AM
Definitely some impressive numbers by rodgers especially when you factor in his running

Erik2806
11-29-2010, 11:19 AM
No Alex Smith, lists are fail



fuk you

is that really a surprise? hes complete garbage as we all know

feel like 49ers/raiders fans can never put their homerism aside...its like constant losing puts them in defense mode all the time