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MahNicca
06-08-2010, 02:28 AM
Mark my words. Turner will be better than Wall next year.

You heard it here first.

Kovalchuk
06-08-2010, 04:31 AM
I agree. Evan Turner is more NBA ready and is the steadier of the two.

JamesGatz83
06-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Agreed. Turner will be better initially. Wall is a better athlete, but he needs a lot of polishing. He turns the ball over too much and his jumper is still very erratic. Eventually, though, I see him as a bigger, better, more explosive version of Rajon Rondo.

gotrice33
06-08-2010, 08:44 AM
evan turner = kobe
john wall = lebron

i think they're both equal also.

buckeyenutz
06-08-2010, 08:56 AM
if Turner works on his handles, I wouldn't argue with him being better (Wall turns it over a lot too though).

yoplay
06-08-2010, 09:24 AM
you guys mad?

http://i48.tinypic.com/opzpm8.gif

fcb1012
06-08-2010, 09:47 AM
like Turner also

Sandbrah
06-08-2010, 10:05 AM
Turner will have a bigger impact at first I think, if he has the work ethic he can stay better than Wall. But I think Wall will start doing decent, then eventually overtake Turner.

sparkblade
06-08-2010, 10:26 AM
I agree. Turner is more complete.

robogain
06-08-2010, 11:05 AM
turner will be broy lite

pleaserepme
06-08-2010, 12:19 PM
they're both gonna end up as second-tier non-top 10 players

like a caron butler or marvin williams

Iraq Attaq
06-08-2010, 12:44 PM
And the Sixers will pass up on him because their front office is run by a bunch of mentally handicapped children.

Masstastic
06-08-2010, 12:47 PM
Turner is better than Wall.

John Wall will end up a Mike Conley type of PG in the NBA. Okay hes fast, athletic, and young. So ****ing what? He is not a good PG overall. Turns the ball over a lot and takes bad shots.

Tyler44
06-08-2010, 12:48 PM
Turner is better than Wall.

John Wall will end up a Mike Conley type of PG in the NBA. Okay hes fast, athletic, and young. So ****ing what? He is not a good PG overall. Turns the ball over a lot and takes bad shots.

I agree here, Im still upset Conley hasnt turned out well though.

sparkblade
06-08-2010, 02:04 PM
Turner is better than Wall.

John Wall will end up a Mike Conley type of PG in the NBA. Okay hes fast, athletic, and young. So ****ing what? He is not a good PG overall. Turns the ball over a lot and takes bad shots.

Is conley still playing for memphis?

rumpsicle
06-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Oh sht, where's GetBigYo?

GetBigyo
06-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Oh sht, where's GetBigYo?

Negged next time you mention me in a Wall thread.

Pauly-Walnuts
06-08-2010, 03:18 PM
ET is a better defender and post player, that alone will help. I could also see him getting some NBA size and maybe able to play the 1-4 spots depending on match-ups, Wall is darn good but not as versatile.

sparkblade
06-08-2010, 04:03 PM
ET is a better defender and post player, that alone will help. I could also see him getting some NBA size and maybe able to play the 1-4 spots depending on match-ups, Wall is darn good but not as versatile.

Turner at the 4 would be a stretch. He's 6'7. He's an inch taller than Vince Carter. He'd be undersized. Although Maxiell is 6'7. Hmmm.

Al_Pal
06-08-2010, 05:14 PM
Negged next time you mention me in a Wall thread.

u feelin like an idiot yet?

evilsteve02
06-08-2010, 05:42 PM
Mark my words. Turner will be better than Wall next year.

You heard it here first.

well yeah, Turner spent 3 years in college. he is way more polished than Wall. IMO he is ready to help a team right now. I don't think Wall will even start his rookie year...he could be good, but he could also be terrible...but with turner, you know you get a solid polished player who has a good all around game.

GetBigyo
06-08-2010, 05:48 PM
u feelin like an idiot yet?

Game played in NBA:

Turner: 0

Wall: 0


Yeah Turner really proved me wrong so far.

bbacn123
06-08-2010, 05:55 PM
In after GBY

Nerrg
06-08-2010, 06:28 PM
whatever team takes him (presumably the wizards) is gonna start him right away. theyre not close to being a contender so they will want him to get as much experience as possible.

Al_Pal
06-08-2010, 09:56 PM
Game played in NBA:

Turner: 0

Wall: 0


Yeah Turner really proved me wrong so far.


it has nothing to do with turner. u declared wall basketball jesus. the next dwayne wade. lmao

ajn
06-09-2010, 12:26 AM
Turner is better than Wall.

John Wall will end up a Mike Conley type of PG in the NBA. Okay hes fast, athletic, and young. So ****ing what? He is not a good PG overall. Turns the ball over a lot and takes bad shots.
Conley jr is like 6'0.. Wall is 6'4. that's a big difference.

how many PGs can stay in front of a lightning fast guy who is 6'4? Wall will equal or exceed Derrick Rose's impact in the NBA.

TomatoRage
06-09-2010, 12:31 AM
I agree Turner will be better in the first year but over the long haul wall will be the better player. It takes a little bit longer I think for a PG to learn how to run an team while Turner will just be asked to score Wall is going to have to deal with a lot more. But I think he will still be alright and will be in a situation where he will get ample playing time. Eventually Wall will be the better player and one of the better assist men in the league.

Turbofirejames
06-09-2010, 04:13 AM
Evan Turner has back problems. Back problems never go away. His NBA career will be choppy and never be as great as it should be. Wall and Turner will both be solid though.

Masstastic
06-09-2010, 09:54 AM
Conley jr is like 6'0.. Wall is 6'4. that's a big difference.

how many PGs can stay in front of a lightning fast guy who is 6'4? Wall will equal or exceed Derrick Rose's impact in the NBA.

Mind=Blown


Are you kidding me? There isn't much of any difference due to height unless you have the physical nature to use it to your advantage. Wall is a skinny weak 6'4 PG, sorry hes not doing any damage when guarded by the likes of Rondo, Paul, Westbrook, or Kidd.

If PG's can stay in front of a lightning fast guy who is 6'1, they can do the same for a 6'4 PG. Wall isn't a ****ing thing like Rose other than being coached by Calipari. Rose is much stronger, faster, smarter, and is a better PG. Wall led the nation in turnovers in college. It will only get worse when in the pros.

Al_Pal
06-09-2010, 10:16 AM
Mind=Blown


Are you kidding me? There isn't much of any difference due to height unless you have the physical nature to use it to your advantage. Wall is a skinny weak 6'4 PG, sorry hes not doing any damage when guarded by the likes of Rondo, Paul, Westbrook, or Kidd.

If PG's can stay in front of a lightning fast guy who is 6'1, they can do the same for a 6'4 PG. Wall isn't a ****ing thing like Rose other than being coached by Calipari. Rose is much stronger, faster, smarter, and is a better PG. Wall led the nation in turnovers in college. It will only get worse when in the pros.

i agree with ur whole post...

except LMAO @ jkidd guarding anybody...

Masstastic
06-09-2010, 11:08 AM
i agree with ur whole post...

except LMAO @ jkidd guarding anybody...

Kidd isn't as quick as these young guys but he is still good on defense in the halfcourt.

Al_Pal
06-09-2010, 11:27 AM
Kidd isn't as quick as these young guys but he is still good on defense in the halfcourt.

kidd gets his lunch taken by anyone with a first step in the half court.

though i did watch a game this year when he had like 9 steals.

GetBigyo
06-09-2010, 12:08 PM
lol at comparing Wall to Conley.

gtfo

FierceTiger
12-09-2010, 06:15 PM
lol

Be_Easy_25
12-09-2010, 06:17 PM
only loling cuz i saw dude on the front of nba.com for being trash

JM2412
12-09-2010, 06:19 PM
Ugh.

:(

GetBigyo
12-09-2010, 06:47 PM
lmao...Turner is ****ing trash.

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:38 PM
i expected turner to be better than wall too, guess i was wrong


wall still aint sh*t, he'll never be as good as d rose. all he has is insane speed which he doesn't know how to control

GetBigyo
12-09-2010, 08:42 PM
i expected turner to be better than wall too, guess i was wrong


wall still aint sh*t, he'll never be as good as d rose. all he has is insane speed which he doesn't know how to control

Thats why he is averaging 17/9 with an ass team.

GTFO

Erik2806
12-09-2010, 08:46 PM
wall still aint sh*t, he'll never be as good as d rose. all he has is insane speed which he doesn't know how to control

rose's rookie year: 16.8ppg, 6.3apg, 0.8spg

wall's rookie year so far: 17.4ppg, 9.1apg, 2.4 spg

right....

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:48 PM
Thats why he is avergae 17/9 with an ass team.

GTFO

yeah cause it's harder to put up stats with a bad team? it's not like he doesn't get his assists from mcgee who he alley oops to everytime down the floor?

GetBigyo
12-09-2010, 08:50 PM
yeah cause it's harder to put up stats with a bad team? it's not like he doesn't get his assists from mcgee who he alley oops to everytime down the floor?
Do you even watch him play?

Im guessing not.

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:50 PM
rose's rookie year: 16.8ppg, 6.3apg, 0.8spg

wall's rookie year so far: 17.4ppg, 9.1apg, 2.4 spg

right....

it's not like ben gordon wasn't the main guy on his rookie team, right?


wall won't even be as good as rondo, no hate.

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:51 PM
Do you even watch him play?

Im guessing not.

everytime i see him play, all im impressed by is his transition game. he doesn't do **** in the halfcourt

GetBigyo
12-09-2010, 08:53 PM
everytime i see him play, all im impressed by is his transition game. he doesn't do **** in the halfcourt

What the **** are you talking about?

No half court game? Again, you clearly don't even watch him.

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:54 PM
What the **** are you talking about?

No half court game? Again, you clearly don't even watch him.

we'll see, i was wrong bout ET, i might be wrong about wall (hopefully)

Iraq Attaq
12-09-2010, 08:55 PM
The season is barely 1/4 of the way over and your calling a rookie that plays the hardest position to learn on the court trash because he's not putting up huge numbers on a junk team that has a new coach that was commentating the Olympics before he accepted the coaching gig????



Really???

ChillNoWork
12-09-2010, 08:58 PM
The season is barely 1/4 of the way over and your calling a rookie that plays the hardest position to learn on the court trash because he's not putting up huge numbers on a junk team that has a new coach that was commentating the Olympics before he accepted the coaching gig????



Really???

See: Tyreke Evans last year

and he put up better stats his rookie year

GetBigyo
12-09-2010, 09:00 PM
The season is barely 1/4 of the way over and your calling a rookie that plays the hardest position to learn on the court trash because he's not putting up huge numbers on a junk team that has a new coach that was commentating the Olympics before he accepted the coaching gig????



Really???

Uhh this the NBA not the NFL where you usually have guys who are top 5 picks come right in and produce a lot UNLESS that guy is very young. (ex. Favors, only 19 and very raw).

Turner spent 3 years at the college level...he should already be ready to produce. Every scout even said beforehand the guy does not have a huge ceiling.

DumpTheLoad
12-09-2010, 09:32 PM
The season is barely 1/4 of the way over and your calling a rookie that plays the hardest position to learn on the court trash because he's not putting up huge numbers on a junk team that has a new coach that was commentating the Olympics before he accepted the coaching gig????



Really???

the fact that hes on a junk team means he should have an easier time putting up numbers

Iraq Attaq
12-10-2010, 09:40 AM
the fact that hes on a junk team means he should have an easier time putting up numbers

That would be true if he played against junk teams.

cp3wfu
12-10-2010, 09:49 AM
Philly people (or those who have watched lots of Philly games) wtf happened?

I understand there's a log jam on the perimeter, but from what I've heard/read (not having seen any of their games) he's looked like garbage.

WeWannaChill
12-10-2010, 09:50 AM
turner cannot be effective while playing alongside iguodala, just really all there is to it.

he played pretty decently in the games iguodala was hurt lol

JM2412
12-10-2010, 10:31 AM
Philly people (or those who have watched lots of Philly games) wtf happened?

I understand there's a log jam on the perimeter, but from what I've heard/read (not having seen any of their games) he's looked like garbage.

Played well when Iggy was out, but his minutes have gone down since then. When he gets on the court now he plays so tentatively...not trying to make his own shot, just standing in the corner the whole possession. Seems to have trouble when the ball isn't in his hands (like it was at OSU).

Hasn't looked too encouraging so far...

Funds
12-10-2010, 10:33 AM
No, I heard this at the University of Kentucky first.

I do think Turner>Wall

matty_b_bop
12-10-2010, 11:02 AM
Turner is better than Wall.

John Wall will end up a Mike Conley type of PG in the NBA. Okay hes fast, athletic, and young. So ****ing what? He is not a good PG overall. Turns the ball over a lot and takes bad shots.

experience will evolve him into a better player.

evilsteve02
12-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Agreed. Turner will be better initially. Wall is a better athlete, but he needs a lot of polishing. He turns the ball over too much and his jumper is still very erratic. Eventually, though, I see him as a bigger, better, more explosive version of Rajon Rondo.

it is true. Turner staying in college prepared him much better for the NBA initially. Wall might end up being better in the long run, but for now (and i would say another 2 years) Turner will be better.

That is the NBA though, teams act like something is wrong with you if you stay in for more than a year or 2 now. Really, Even Turner was the best player in the draft this season, but teams see the long term potention in young guys being more attractive than a guy who is already at that point. One of the many reasons why the NBA has sucked over the last 7-10 years.

HereWeGoo
03-11-2012, 05:46 PM
Mind=Blown


Are you kidding me? There isn't much of any difference due to height unless you have the physical nature to use it to your advantage. Wall is a skinny weak 6'4 PG, sorry hes not doing any damage when guarded by the likes of Rondo, Paul, Westbrook, or Kidd.

If PG's can stay in front of a lightning fast guy who is 6'1, they can do the same for a 6'4 PG. Wall isn't a ****ing thing like Rose other than being coached by Calipari. Rose is much stronger, faster, smarter, and is a better PG. Wall led the nation in turnovers in college. It will only get worse when in the pros.

Mass predicting the troof for once

Masstastic
03-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Mass predicting the troof for once

Actually I'm not anywhere near as critical of Wall as I once was.

The issue is still his turnovers.

But everything I said is still the legit truth.

His size is irrelevant if he cant use it to his advantage and thats what seperates him from other "big" PG's.

HereWeGoo
03-11-2012, 06:03 PM
Actually I'm not anywhere near as critical of Wall as I once was.

The issue is still his turnovers.

But everything I said is still the legit truth.

His size is irrelevant if he cant use it to his advantage and thats what seperates him from other "big" PG's.

glad to see you aren't a nuthugging dumbass like getbigyo

gjdm

GetBigyo
03-11-2012, 06:05 PM
glad to see you aren't a nuthugging dumbass like getbigyo

gjdm
lol look who's talking.

Dumbass clown who slobbers over Kome Bryant.

HereWeGoo
03-11-2012, 06:08 PM
lol look who's talking.

Dumbass clown who slobbers over Kome Bryant.

5 > 0, u mad?

you've been wrong about all your predictions dumbfuk

http://blogs.thescore.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tbj/files/2011/03/carmelo-amare-laughing.jpg

GetBigyo
03-11-2012, 06:11 PM
brb Wall dominating last stretch of games.

brb Kome Bryant TS% of 53


lol

HereWeGoo
03-11-2012, 06:14 PM
brb Wall dominating last stretch of games.

brb Kome Bryant TS% of 53


lol

Lol'd...Wall sucks

JM2412
03-11-2012, 06:16 PM
Turner has been playing better since he became the starter a couple games ago.

Awesome game today...hope he can keep it up.

Masstastic
03-11-2012, 06:27 PM
Lol'd...Wall sucks

Negro Please.

NickDaQuik
07-01-2013, 11:47 PM
lol

jlee639
07-02-2013, 01:28 AM
lol

strong bump

wildchild11
07-02-2013, 04:50 AM
Mark my words. Turner will be better than Wall next year.

You heard it here first.

Lol

1harud1
07-02-2013, 07:59 AM
Lols