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germanyt
12-18-2009, 07:17 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?page=hotread14/Saints
I posted this in the misc too just so everyone will see it.

Onita
12-18-2009, 07:23 AM
Try posting a link to the article, not your misc thread.

spirit3530
12-18-2009, 07:50 AM
Try posting a link to the article, not your misc thread.

to avoid getting negged?



OP exposed as being a homer.

TexasHeat
12-18-2009, 07:52 AM
Not this **** again

SwagMorris
12-18-2009, 07:54 AM
Stopped reading after I saw that it called New Orleans Americas city.

Messiahtype
12-18-2009, 08:00 AM
Percentage of people who give a **** about New Orleans or the Saints...000001%

jkeithc82
12-18-2009, 08:11 AM
Percentage of people who give a **** about New Orleans or the Saints...000001%

Bump that up a bit. I lived in New Orleans for a time and have been to more Saints games than Texans games. I'm glad to see them having success now.

DA_MOSS
12-18-2009, 08:30 AM
Percentage of people who give a **** about New Orleans or the Saints...000001%

obviously you do since you made time to post about it

you fail

bustermac
12-18-2009, 08:35 AM
Time to stop playing the Katrina card. The city got destroyed by the corruption of their Government building casinos and unrelated crap with the Federal money we gave them to reinforce the levies. I have very little sympathy, they had 30 years of warnings that this would happen and didn't listen. Then, we tried to help the innocent people that truely were victims of the storm and donated more money and time to them than any other hurricane strike and they're still standing with their hands out and asking for more. Yet, Mississippi where the center of the storm was helped themselves without whining or begging. Florida gets hit routinely with even more powerful storms and they never ask for our help. New Orleans and Katrina were a huge political ploy that took advantage of the people living there. Yet, with some morals...the whole flood could have been prevented if they used the money properly and prepared for it. THEN, the Mayor bused in people to re-elect him, but somehow he couldn't find drivers for those buses leading up to the storm. They actually put the people who caused the mess back into office, so they deserve everything they get.

The city is appropriately shaped like a toilet bowl.

DA_MOSS
12-18-2009, 08:38 AM
Time to stop playing the Katrina card. The city got destroyed by the corruption of their Government building casinos and unrelated crap with the Federal money we gave them to reinforce the levies. I have very little sympathy, they had 30 years of warnings that this would happen and didn't listen. Then, we tried to help the innocent people that truely were victims of the storm and donated more money and time to them than any other hurricane strike and they're still standing with their hands out and asking for more. Yet, Mississippi where the center of the storm was helped themselves without whining or begging. Florida gets hit routinely with even more powerful storms and they never ask for our help. New Orleans and Katrina were a huge political ploy that took advantage of the people living there. Yet, with some morals...the whole flood could have been prevented if they used the money properly and prepared for it. THEN, the Mayor bused in people to re-elect him, but somehow he couldn't find drivers for those buses leading up to the storm. They actually put the people who caused the mess back into office, so they deserve everything they get.

The city is appropriately shaped like a toilet bowl.

#1. Go talk to the Army Corps of Engineers.. they had multiple opportunities to rebuild the levies and they (not the city of New Orleans) thought they were strong enough

#2. Florida DOES NOT get hit by Cat 5 hurricanes often

#3. STFU if you dont know what you're talking about

#4.(in bold) ARE YOU F***** serious? You are a ****ING idiot. Yes mad -- lost a house and family during Katrina

#5. The government took 1 entire week to bring water and supplies to the city. Explain that..... I'll wait

bustermac
12-18-2009, 08:50 AM
#1. Go talk to the Army Corps of Engineers.. they had multiple opportunities to rebuild the levies and they (not the city of New Orleans) thought they were strong enough

#2. Florida DOES NOT get hit by Cat 5 hurricanes often

#3. STFU if you dont know what you're talking about

#4.(in bold) ARE YOU F***** serious? You are a ****ING idiot. Yes mad -- lost a house and family during Katrina

#5. The government took 1 entire week to bring water and supplies to the city. Explain that..... I'll wait

About the delays - the LOCAL authorities were to notify the Feds (FEMA) to come in with relief. It's actually in their policy and Federal code that they can't come in unless asked by the local municipalities. The delays were COMPLETELY on "School Bus" Nagin and Landreau. Once the Feds were asked, they responded immediately. The whole mess afterwards was directly attributable to the local and state Government, but those without any thinking skills just blindly blamed the President.

I've done my research on the debacle, so don't waste time with debating tactics like "STFU you don't know" lines.


Look which Hurricane is NOT on the list of strongest hurricanes, Katrina:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/history/hurricanes-strongest.htm

Katrina was NOT a Cat-5 when it hit and wasn't even centered on N.O. If a city on the Gulf of Mexico can't survive a Cat 3, it should not be there and more importantly, should not be rebuilt...it just puts peoples' lives and the economy at risk again.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/12/21/katrina/index.html

Yet they received the most aid BY FAR. Have we ever heard a thank-you?

DA_MOSS
12-18-2009, 08:53 AM
About the delays - the LOCAL authorities were to notify the Feds (FEMA) to come in with relief. It's actually in their policy and Federal code that they can't come in unless asked by the local municipalities. The delays were COMPLETELY on "School Bus" Nagin and Landreau. Once the Feds were asked, they responded immediately. The whole mess afterwards was directly attributable to the local and state Government, but those without any thinking skills just blindly blamed the President.

negative.. a state of emergency was issued a few days prior to Katrina making landfall. This entitles a plethora of emergency workers and supplies to be within an hours drive of the city, yet they still made NO effort. Before you start blaming people for things, make sure you have your **** straight. Not all that you see on Fox news is 100% reality

LOL at you thinking NOLA waited to ask the feds for help..

by the way -- where are you from? you seem to think you know alot about what happened

why the **** should anyone thank you??

Oh YEAH IDIOT -- your list stops in 2004.. Katrina hit in 2005

bustermac
12-18-2009, 08:58 AM
negative.. a state of emergency was issued a few days prior to Katrina making landfall. This entitles a plethora of emergency workers and supplies to be within an hours drive of the city, yet they still made NO effort. Before you start blaming people for things, make sure you have your **** straight. Not all that you see on Fox news is 100% reality

LOL at you thinking NOLA waited to ask the feds for help..

by the way -- where are you from? you seem to think you know alot about what happened

why the **** should anyone thank you??

Oh YEAH IDIOT -- your list stops in 2004.. Katrina hit in 2005

OH YEAH IDIOT, Katrina was a Cat 3, it would not have made the list.

richard02
12-18-2009, 09:02 AM
OH YEAH IDIOT, Katrina was a Cat 3, it would not have made the list.

lol.

DA_MOSS
12-18-2009, 09:06 AM
OH YEAH IDIOT, Katrina was a Cat 3, it would not have made the list.

whatever you say.. you're really not worth anymore of my time

Jussst_Blaze
12-18-2009, 09:27 AM
cool article but as mentioned New Orleans is NOT AMERICA'S CITY

bustermac
12-18-2009, 09:27 AM
whatever you say.. you're really not worth anymore of my time

Thank you. :)

b3rtstare
12-18-2009, 09:31 AM
whatever you say.. you're really not worth anymore of my time


Technically, Katrina WAS a Cat. 3 so it wouldn't make the list of stongest hurricanes

germanyt
12-18-2009, 09:33 AM
About the delays - the LOCAL authorities were to notify the Feds (FEMA) to come in with relief. It's actually in their policy and Federal code that they can't come in unless asked by the local municipalities. The delays were COMPLETELY on "School Bus" Nagin and Landreau. Once the Feds were asked, they responded immediately. The whole mess afterwards was directly attributable to the local and state Government, but those without any thinking skills just blindly blamed the President.

I've done my research on the debacle, so don't waste time with debating tactics like "STFU you don't know" lines.


Look which Hurricane is NOT on the list of strongest hurricanes, Katrina:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/history/hurricanes-strongest.htm

Katrina was NOT a Cat-5 when it hit and wasn't even centered on N.O. If a city on the Gulf of Mexico can't survive a Cat 3, it should not be there and more importantly, should not be rebuilt...it just puts peoples' lives and the economy at risk again.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/12/21/katrina/index.html

Yet they received the most aid BY FAR. Have we ever heard a thank-you?

Really wouldn't have made much a difference if there had been more advance notice anyway. The vast majority of the people who made it out made it regardless of how much time they had. New Orleans has a very high poverty rate and a lot of the people who stayed simply didn't have the means to leave. Either no transportation, no money, or no place to go. It wasn't like it was common to have the entire city 14 feet under water. And as for the city not being there or not being rebuil because of people's lives and the economy, a big chunk of the countries economy depends on there being a very large port city at the mouth of the Mississippi. What is ironic is that the need for that port requires levees to be build. Levees that prevent the Mississippi from flooding into the wetlands and depositing silt to replenish our wetlands. All the canals and levees prevent this from happening which is why our coast is washing away. Every mile of coast that washes away brings the storm surge up 1 foot. So 10 miles missing makes an additional 10 feet of storm surge. This is why the levess breached. They simply couldn't handle Cat 3 hurricanes like they could 10 - 20 years ago.

cor030
12-18-2009, 09:35 AM
so it's the people of New Orleans fault the government is retarded and corrupt like every other cities government, and ignored warnings(and also took what, a week to get water to the superdome?) It's one thing to hate on the team, I do it all the time, but to hate on them after a disaster such as Katrina is low.

with that said, the Aints have been irrelevant since their existence, it's about time they see some success :)

germanyt
12-18-2009, 09:37 AM
OH YEAH IDIOT, Katrina was a Cat 3, it would not have made the list.

Wind speed is what determines what category it was. Mississippi and Alabama weren't hit as hard because the wind was blowing diretly into NO and from west to east across the other states. They didnt' get the same storm surge we got.

niospecv
12-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Stopped reading after I saw that it called New Orleans Americas city.

Basically

DA_MOSS
12-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Technically, Katrina WAS a Cat. 3 so it wouldn't make the list of stongest hurricanes

agreed, but thats not the point..

it did more damage than any other hurricane in history..sometimes you cant just go by the Cat rating to judge the severity of a storm

http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/the_ten_costliest_us_hurricanes/

bking10
12-18-2009, 09:56 AM
so how bout those saints..... you think the cowgirls have a shot at them?

bmy-
12-18-2009, 10:13 AM
OH YEAH IDIOT, Katrina was a Cat 3, it would not have made the list.


Wind speed is what determines what category it was. Mississippi and Alabama weren't hit as hard because the wind was blowing diretly into NO and from west to east across the other states. They didnt' get the same storm surge we got.

This. It was where Katrina made landfall that was the issue. I've got a decent example that I'm confident most can grasp.

Which does more harm to the body? (The answer is A)
A) 100lb female with stilettos standing on your back
B) 150lb male with tennis shoes standing on your back

It's not the size of the hurricane that was the issue although Katrina was pretty BA, it just hit in the perfect spot to cause maximum damage.

Vindicate
12-18-2009, 10:23 AM
Stopped reading after I saw that it called New Orleans Americas city.

this

and i wish i stopped reading this thread at this post, but didnt and it is fail

jkeithc82
12-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Basically

Right but we've always basically had to accept that the Cowboys are America's team lol. :rolleyes:

bustermac
12-18-2009, 11:29 AM
agreed, but thats not the point..

it did more damage than any other hurricane in history..sometimes you cant just go by the Cat rating to judge the severity of a storm

http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/the_ten_costliest_us_hurricanes/

Yes, but the damage was due to corruption and negligence and was completely avoidable.

bustermac
12-18-2009, 11:30 AM
This. It was where Katrina made landfall that was the issue. I've got a decent example that I'm confident most can grasp.

Which does more harm to the body? (The answer is A)
A) 100lb female with stilettos standing on your back
B) 150lb male with tennis shoes standing on your back

It's not the size of the hurricane that was the issue although Katrina was pretty BA, it just hit in the perfect spot to cause maximum damage.

You're right. However, building a city below sea level on the edge of a gulf (ocean) is just asking for trouble. This is why I thought it would be better for save the billions of dollars for a rebuild and possible repeat destruction would have been the smartest and safest route. I realize people who grew up and lived there would miss their city, but when you choose a dangerous place to live, you must accept the possibilities...like living by a volcano, in tornado alley or on the edge of water. There are clear risks.