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aussiemommy
12-04-2009, 06:40 PM
squat rack, no leg curl machine, and no barbells over 77lbs (and limited/no additional plates to add to them).....would you just change to another gym? I am training at the gym in my apartment block, which is very handy because it is free and I can take my son there with me mid morning, and it takes 2 minutes to walk there. This is what it does have (3 benches not pictured BTW):

This (below) is literally all there is with the barbells,
I'm already deadlifting the highest one (77lbs, it's on the floor) with 5kg plates added to each side.
I'm running out of options as I get stronger :(
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Lizzy07_album/27112009964.jpg
Cable Smith machine - second from right
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Lizzy07_album/27112009967.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Lizzy07_album/27112009968.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Lizzy07_album/27112009966.jpg
There is a jump from 27.5lbs to 33lbs with these dumbbells, so at the moment I can't do DB bench presses because I'm in between the 27.5 and the 33
Instead I'm doing chest presses on the machine you can see in the above photo
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Lizzy07_album/275to66lbs.jpg

I'm doing my best to adjust my workouts to this gym, but I really want to continue with my compound routine (Rippetoe's Starting Strength), and I'm just finding that it's harder to do in this gym right now. As you can see, it has no squat rack and the most I will be able to deadlift here is 99lbs.....and I'm there now, I need to DL heavier and I can't with this equipment. And of course with no squat rack, I can't do barbell squats (firstly I can't lift the heavier barbells over my head, and secondly the barbells only go to 77lbs anyway)

Oh, and one of my favourite machines isn't there, the leg curl/leg extension machine :(

I possibly could go back to my old gym, it's one of those rough 'real' gyms that has all the good basic stuff but it's in an older building and it's nice and sweaty and hot in there. The owner took over from his dad (it's been running since like 1925 or something), and he only charged $250 per YEAR there when I was training about 8 years ago. As long as he wouldn't mind my son tagging along I could go back there (and if I could convince my husband to pay for a gym membership even though we have a gym here).

What do you think? Should I just suck it up and keep training here, with an adjusted routine (suggestions welcome)? Or does this gym look inadequate?

Emoore
12-04-2009, 06:51 PM
If you're doing Rippitoe, you're going to have to find a new gym.

Personally, I can get a kick-ass workout with just a TRX and a kettlebell (1-legged squats FTW) but you kind of have to decide what your goal is and choose your gym accordingly.

freebirdmac
12-04-2009, 06:54 PM
If you're questioning the equipment in your gym, then it's most likely time to move on :)

aussiemommy
12-04-2009, 06:59 PM
If you're doing Rippitoe, you're going to have to find a new gym.

Personally, I can get a kick-ass workout with just a TRX and a kettlebell (1-legged squats FTW) but you kind of have to decide what your goal is and choose your gym accordingly.


If you're questioning the equipment in your gym, then it's most likely time to move on :)

Thanks :) Now to just convince hubby :o Or I could join with my own money and just not tell him (he's at work from 7am to 8pm Mon - Fri ;))

Amanda76
12-04-2009, 07:07 PM
If you have a choice, I would go to your old gym for sure. Even if you change your game and do some of the things Emoore suggested, the other gym will have stuff that will work for that purpose as well. But as she also mentioned, you can make the new gym work if you have to, so don't give up hope if that ends up being your only choice. Who knows? Maybe you could get them to purchase some more equipment.

punxnotdead309
12-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Hmmm, I like variation and new equipment, so I would move to a new gym if I were you. In the long run, it'll probably be worth the extra few minutes inconvenience.

KyleAaron
12-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Your old gym sounds good.

If you're not attached to Starting Strength as such, there are lots of things you can do to become stronger with the equipment there. For example, you can do deadlifts with a single dumbell held between your legs. To make them harder, stand on two steps and have the weight touch the floor between reps.

But your old gym sounds good, where is it? I am now one the strongest guys in my gym - apart from one PT - so I need a new gym!

And you still should come to ausbb.com ;)

aussiemommy
12-04-2009, 09:13 PM
If you have a choice, I would go to your old gym for sure. Even if you change your game and do some of the things Emoore suggested, the other gym will have stuff that will work for that purpose as well. But as she also mentioned, you can make the new gym work if you have to, so don't give up hope if that ends up being your only choice. Who knows? Maybe you could get them to purchase some more equipment.
Yes, I had actually thought of approaching them about getting new equipment, I might do this before I make a final decision. If they say "No way", I'll go ahead and change. But if they are willing to consider, I would even be happy to help them source stuff on ebay or whatever.


Hmmm, I like variation and new equipment, so I would move to a new gym if I were you. In the long run, it'll probably be worth the extra few minutes inconvenience.
Yeah, it's a bit further away, but not very far, just a 20 minute walk or a quick drive.


Your old gym sounds good.

If you're not attached to Starting Strength as such, there are lots of things you can do to become stronger with the equipment there. For example, you can do deadlifts with a single dumbell held between your legs. To make them harder, stand on two steps and have the weight touch the floor between reps.

But your old gym sounds good, where is it? I am now one the strongest guys in my gym - apart from one PT - so I need a new gym!

And you still should come to ausbb.com ;)
I'll PM you the gym name. I loved training there, the folks there don't care what they wear or how much they sweat, they're just there to train and train hard. Oh, and I just checked out the yearly membership price (off peak, daytime only): AU$250 per year!! Beauty!!!! :D

Oh, and yes, I have checked out ausbb.com, just have to get a user account :)

Patrese
12-05-2009, 12:49 AM
I dunno - I would love if my gym was only 2 mins away.If it is quiet too that is a bonus.You could always bring in some of your own equipment..heavier dumbbells etc ..if you are that near

Emma-Leigh
12-05-2009, 01:29 AM
Have you tried to think 'laterally'?
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And a variety of toughness with little to no weight except yourself (just turn the volume down - the guy spends the whole time selling his website. :rolleyes: )
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And more from Lee Hayward:
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And if you are feeling really mobile:
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cherilee
12-05-2009, 07:25 AM
Personally, I can get a kick-ass workout with just a TRX and a kettlebell (1-legged squats FTW) but you kind of have to decide what your goal is and choose your gym accordingly.

Can you really work your whole body using one of these? I was too cheap to buy a TRX but rigged up my own and I think it's pretty close to the ones I've seen. I love using it for push ups to work chest, and knee crunches or whatever you'd call them, for abs, but haven't find a good way to challenge most other body parts. Would like to hear what you do.

Emoore
12-05-2009, 07:51 AM
Can you really work your whole body using one of these? I was too cheap to buy a TRX but rigged up my own and I think it's pretty close to the ones I've seen. I love using it for push ups to work chest, and knee crunches or whatever you'd call them, for abs, but haven't find a good way to challenge most other body parts. Would like to hear what you do.

Back: inverted rows or pullups, both with different hand placements
chest: presses with hands in the handles or pushups with feet in the foot cradles (these are killer, I can only do like 8)
legs: one-legged squats, hamstring curls with feet in the cradles, lunges with the rear foot in the cradles
shoulders: put your feet in the cradles and do pike pushups, or do reverse flys leaning back
biceps: curls leaning back
triceps: press-downs leaning forward over the handles

If you go to youtube and google TRX you can find about a million different ideas.

kfisherx
12-05-2009, 11:06 AM
I'm sorry but IMHO you cannot gain significant muscle gains with just bw or TRX. Sure for the average unfit person you will see strength gains or if I want to just gain performance on the football field it is a great alternative, but it ain't the same thing as what I try to acheive for a "bulk" program. I mean how do you emulate deadlifting 2x your bw with just body weight? In my strength programs I want to do at least some low rep days.

Now that said, I can see me working out 2 times a week in this gym and 2 times in the other gym. I would set up my workouts to upper/lower splits and have one hypertrophy reps (12ish) and one strength reps (5 ish). That opens up your options tremendously to do squats and deads work in either gym. You can design your workouts so that you do unilateral or single leg work on hypertrophy days. Single leg db deads, step ups, BSS, walking lunges. The dbs will be plenty heavy enough for those and you need to do those anyway so why not while you are in this gym.

Then for you heavy leg days (strength rep days) go to the real gym and do either squats or deads (alternate so that you are doing them 1 time a month each) or do both 2 times a month if you are hardcore enough. In any case you get your lifts in with real free weights and it is the best.

If you cannot really cannot justilfy the cost and time though... you can do deads and squats with a good cable function machine which I believe I saw in your pics in the apt gym. That gym also has a leg press.

aussiemommy
12-05-2009, 11:15 PM
Have you tried to think 'laterally'?
NQ6NEX8UkS0

nzosgttY-h4

wnCT0OFjddc

And a variety of toughness with little to no weight except yourself (just turn the volume down - the guy spends the whole time selling his website. :rolleyes: )
xnlxaGaYy-w

And more from Lee Hayward:
lOBrJlIR52w

And if you are feeling really mobile:
ytYh1N6niLQ
These links don't work for me....is there some setting I need to change on my computer?
Or can you put the links in some other way?

Emma-Leigh
12-06-2009, 12:56 AM
These links don't work for me....is there some setting I need to change on my computer?
Or can you put the links in some other way?
? you can't watch youtube?

Emma-Leigh
12-06-2009, 01:01 AM
? you can't watch youtube?
Try these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6NEX8UkS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzosgttY-h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnCT0OFjddc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnlxaGaYy-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBrJlIR52w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYh1N6niLQ

xocheerbabe9
12-06-2009, 06:20 AM
It's pretty hard to beat the convenience of having a gym so close--and FREE! I would try to talk to the owners to see what they are willing to do, and also see how you can get a little creative to bridge the gap with some different exercises. If you're still unhappy after a couple weeks then you have your answer :) And you can remind hubby that a happy wife means a happy life!!

aussiemommy
12-06-2009, 08:19 PM
Try these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ6NEX8UkS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzosgttY-h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnCT0OFjddc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnlxaGaYy-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBrJlIR52w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYh1N6niLQ

Thanks, they work so I'll have a look. Not sure why the embedded ones didn't work, they come up as white boxes with a little picture box in the top corner :confused:
I can indeed watch youtube :)