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Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
Time for us to have a subforum because there is so much good stuff in these topics...

or at least a sticky.


Nothing here mind=blown just a few cool pics on the net.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7238/publicdomainastronomy26.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4337/36121718.png

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2431/sciencecentervisualisie.jpg


Whatcha got misc?

garsome
11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
I would rather have a house in that second pic than in the Jetsons.

dave.mc
11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Me and a wildphucker have both been trying to get one for ages, even had a few polls going for a science section. Apperently the admins don't want one though :(

Still we have the formal debate forum with it's entire 12 threads, great idea that was lol

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:03 PM
In general relativity, a black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing, not even light, can escape.

Lensing by a black hole. Animated simulation of gravitational lensing caused by a Schwarzschild black hole going past a background galaxy. A secondary image of the galaxy can be seen within the black hole Einstein ring on the opposite direction of that of the galaxy. The secondary image grows (remaining within the Einstein ring) as the primary image approaches the black hole. The surface brightness of the two images remain constant, but their angular size vary, hence producing an amplification of the galaxy luminosity as seen from a distant observer. The maximum amplification occurs when the background galaxy (or in the present case a bright part of it) is exactly behind the black hole.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1783/blackholelensingweb.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole Read for more!

Anubis18
11-05-2009, 02:05 PM
definitely need a science section


that space colony reminds me of halo, would be unbelievable to live there

AlphaMisc
11-05-2009, 02:10 PM
There are too many good threads about science that get lost in the the high activity of the general misc.

I have seen requests for this sub forum many times why has it not happened yet????

Strong frustration over this.

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Anyone with a cool $4 million and change might consider doing what 43 other people have done, and sign up for an orbital space vacation in 2012 with Galactic Suite Space Resort. The Barcelona-based company plans to open the first space hotel if all goes according to plan.

Space customers would spend three nights in their orbital pod room, where they could crawl around like Spiderman (or Venom) in Velcro suits. Reuters reports that guests would also enjoy an eight-week training course set on a tropical island.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7366/galacticsuite.jpg

Edit: www.popsci.com

MiKey4
11-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Wtf is all this? false colour nebulas and CGI space stations?



Here is some real science!

Map of the observable universe - each dot is a galaxy in space
http://i35.tinypic.com/2csj4eg.jpg


Light bending due to mass of eclipsing galaxy cluster. Te five bright dots are images of the same distant quasar. Note the galaxy the quasars are in is rotated in each image around the axis.

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~apod/apod/image/0605/quasar5p2_hst.jpg

pollen grains, resolved using an electron microscope:

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/08/just_a_quick_little_picture/pollen-electron-microscope-allergy-causing.jpg


here are anticrepuscular rays- the sun is directly behind the photographer, and the light rays emerging from it are shadowed by the clouds above him, and converge at an point on the opposite side of the sky.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3314360660_c2ae2482e7.jpg

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:15 PM
Wow awesome pics Mikey, I just wanted to get it started :)

Anubis18
11-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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AlphaMisc
11-05-2009, 02:15 PM
Calling out for mod support.

I have noticed alot of mods get in on these science threads, you guys seem to enjoy them too.

Help us out, if you can.

This thread and the many others show good reason for a science section.

LifeByTheHorns
11-05-2009, 02:17 PM
I wouldn't want to live anywhere I wouldn't be able to walk peacefully within nature. Those photos are depressing.

Bababooey100
11-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Sub forum. It's a too broad of a topic for a sticky and it's hard to pick out an intelligent topic mixed in with "What does an a-hole taste like" and "Look at the interior of my new Lambo" threads.

Anubis18
11-05-2009, 02:25 PM
I wouldn't want to live anywhere I wouldn't be able to walk peacefully within nature. Those photos are depressing.

if you didn't notice there are trees in that first one, it would make sense to have a forest on board to recycle some co2, no reason they couldn't set up an entire ecosystem like on earth

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
Electron Microscope Image of a Fly Foot

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1331/438web.jpg

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Sub-forum could also include topics like video games and consoles and software help with computers. With the new operating system coming out it could be a big help to the misc subforums.

meanmo
11-05-2009, 02:36 PM
im all for it man.. id also like to see a section on literature, science related and even science fiction...

blananana4
11-05-2009, 02:38 PM
Electron Microscope Image of a Fly Foot

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1331/438web.jpg

mind=blown


does ryan deluca love WWE or something?

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 02:48 PM
lol I dunno maybe he does.

Science sub-forum would rock. Im gonna post in this thread like every day until I get a response.

Anubis18
11-05-2009, 02:58 PM
lol someone watch some of those videos I put up, they're all pretty cool imo

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 03:50 PM
Cant watch videos at work. FML

Greatgatsby
11-05-2009, 03:51 PM
Would be cool.

hungarian_boss
11-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Less talk about mind blowing more talk about APOPHIS.

AlphaMisc
11-05-2009, 04:50 PM
this bish needs to be BUMPED

Eric-Navy
11-05-2009, 07:04 PM
On watch working an 18 hour day. Come on misc.

wildphucker
11-05-2009, 08:40 PM
Definitely needed.


If we have a WWE forum we should have a science and philosophy forum. There are too many ms paint dick and poo threads and other crap for a good topic to be taken seriously in the misc.

James_Byrne
11-06-2009, 01:14 AM
signed

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
this bish needs to be BUMPED
and bumped again

Definitely needed.


If we have a WWE forum we should have a science and philosophy forum. There are too many ms paint dick and poo threads and other crap for a good topic to be taken seriously in the misc.
Good point.

signed

Thanks.

BigChamp89
11-06-2009, 01:32 AM
hell yeah

leblanc
11-06-2009, 02:01 AM
I support this idea.

Sensual Lettuce
11-06-2009, 02:06 AM
in for sub forum

obmas
11-06-2009, 02:07 AM
we definitely should have a sub forum

there's a religion sub forum, so why shouldn't we there be a science one? I love reading about all that stuff, it'd be nice not to have to sift through garbage in the misc just to find a good scientific/technology thread.

hawaiian robots
11-06-2009, 02:11 AM
I voted in favor of this idea

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 02:12 AM
77.36% so far want a subforum. GJ guys. Lets do the damn thing.

Mods, this really wouldnt be difficult to mod being as a lot of the science/astronomy threads I have seen have at least one mod poster in it.

Kiwi_Fella
11-06-2009, 02:23 AM
I agree OP. I dont know many people who dont find this sorta stuff fascinating

hitapig
11-06-2009, 02:28 AM
bump for science form

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 02:30 AM
Lets go mods, sticky this ****, if it is above a 90% vote for a subforum for 10 days then please make a plea to admin, if not, ban me (again) and leave it as a sticky for those that want a continuous look into the everchanging world of mind blowing **** and technology and everything else.

NORCALpump
11-06-2009, 02:35 AM
This among other subjects needs its own sub-forum.

Voted.

Box_o_Dynamite
11-06-2009, 03:10 AM
Would like mind blown forum

ex3e1989
11-06-2009, 03:32 AM
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mind was blown beyond belief

swordsmanzenn
11-06-2009, 03:36 AM
mind was blown beyond belief

my mind was blown into the eleventh dimension.

michio kaku is a genius. i will also try to watch carl sagan's cosmos series.

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 10:12 AM
Lets take another look!

BigChamp89
11-06-2009, 12:30 PM
gooooooooooooooo

GermanBB
11-06-2009, 12:33 PM
How about just a "Mind=Blown" subsection.

dave.mc
11-06-2009, 12:35 PM
How about just a "Mind=Blown" subsection.

lulz

Good job OP this thread has had a lot of votes so far, il try and bump it occasionally as well in hopes of getting more people to vote.

omen6
11-06-2009, 12:39 PM
signed, that would be epic. all those mind=blown threads involving science amuse me for hours

AlphaMisc
11-06-2009, 01:04 PM
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I understand this whole clip.

But mind still = blown.

Cause that **** makes my short life feel insignificant as hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spartan-wannabe
11-06-2009, 01:10 PM
suprised nobody has posted pic of the pillars of creation

BAD_COMPANY
11-06-2009, 01:13 PM
In for sub-forum


90.05%

tjw
11-06-2009, 01:21 PM
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http://www.deorc.net/other/ars/mind-blown.jpg

Captin Kid
11-06-2009, 01:25 PM
Spot reserved

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 01:25 PM
90.10% keep it up guys!

Drop_Dead
11-06-2009, 01:50 PM
i like this site

http://www.futuretimeline.net/

Eddie-M
11-06-2009, 01:58 PM
signed

PaidLaidMaid
11-06-2009, 02:02 PM
in for sub forum

invain
11-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Forge just did a thread on this and then a day or two later said it wasn't going to happen.

If we get something like 1000 votes however, I don't see why they would ignore it. There's a WWE subforum yet they won't create a science/technology subforum that a large majority wants?

It's not that hard to add a subforum anyways, I don't really see why this is such a big deal. Think about how many different subsections there are on the bb.com forums already.

BTW, anybody interested in science/technology should check out http://www.ted.com/ Some amazing stuff on there from some of the world's top scientists.

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 02:07 PM
i like this site

http://www.futuretimeline.net/

Yea I've seen this, so f*cking mind blowing.

Kardashev scale is also insane. wiki it.

lollercopter
11-06-2009, 02:10 PM
IN for sub-forum.

Ryan711
11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
signed, lets get this shiz moving mods

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Where the mods at? I know you see me talkin' mahf*ckas. lol

Anubis18
11-06-2009, 03:15 PM
mind was blown beyond belief


I understand this whole clip.

But mind still = blown.

Cause that **** makes my short life feel insignificant as hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.deorc.net/other/ars/mind-blown.jpg

lol I've watched that a bunch of times and it still blows my mind every time. Gets pretty hard to imagine after like the 5th dimension

dave.mc
11-06-2009, 04:08 PM
bumpity bump

CLK-GTR
11-06-2009, 04:08 PM
in...

StevieMe
11-06-2009, 04:14 PM
I don't see a reason why we can't have one. The Debate section has just been deleted, surely that makes room for something much more interesting and popular? Hope a mod reads this and forwards it.

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 04:15 PM
lol I couldn't sit through that 10 dimensions thing brah, I think Im gonna try it again tomorrow when I wake up after Im still in kind of a lucid state of mind, and then mind will definitely be blown.

dave.mc
11-06-2009, 04:18 PM
I don't see a reason why we can't have one. The Debate section has just been deleted, surely that makes room for something much more interesting and popular? Hope a mod reads this and forwards it.

I honestly think the reason admin doesn't want it is because the Misc does. This section is pretty much one big head ache for the Mods/admins

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 04:20 PM
I honestly think the reason admin doesn't want it is because the Misc does. This section is pretty much one big head ache for the Mods/admins

Mods love us on the misc. And I think fitty is really starting to enjoy the misc too, maybe we can got him in a good week. :)

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 05:04 PM
Strong above 90% want a subforum is strong.

BAD_COMPANY
11-06-2009, 05:10 PM
258 90.53%
last time i looked it was like 180
Good Job Misc Mans

Drinman
11-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Voted Yes for Sub-Forum.

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 05:39 PM
GJ misc. Lets get to 1k. Post if you vote for bump.

BAD_COMPANY
11-06-2009, 07:05 PM
bump

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 07:08 PM
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This video has techno in it. Pretty cool vid.

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 07:15 PM
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holy f*cking **** mind is so god damn blown right now

J1n
11-06-2009, 07:19 PM
strong poll for subforum

iliketojuggle
11-06-2009, 07:24 PM
yeah it would be good

-themask-
11-06-2009, 07:40 PM
In for science section.

Skies
11-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Here is a what I think is cool, how light works and travels, how the sun as we see it, is actually how it is 8 minutes ago.

Some galaxies we look at are actually how they looked millions of years ago, its just a mind ****, meaning if you were to get there instantly with an amazing telescope and look at earth all you'd see is dinosaurs, or earth before it had life or w/e.

-themask-
11-06-2009, 07:49 PM
Here is a what I think is cool, how light works and travels, how the sun as we see it, is actually how it is 8 minutes ago.

Some galaxies we look at are actually how they looked millions of years ago, its just a mind ****, meaning if you were to get there instantly with an amazing telescope and look at earth all you'd see is dinosaurs, or earth before it had life or w/e.

Yeah man, I think about it in terms of sound as well. Sound only moves at something like 335m/s, so if you're in a rock concert and sitting 750m back from the front of the stage, you're hearing the music as it was 2 seconds ago (assuming there's no surround speakers or w/e).

Btw guys watch this, it's lengthy, but it's a legit physicist talking about how in quantum theory "nothing" doesn't actually exist because particles are continually poppying into and out of existence randomly.

http://richarddawkins.net/article,4490,A-Universe-From-Nothing-by-Lawrence-Krauss-AAI-2009,Lawrence-Krauss-AAI-RDFRS-Josh-Timonen

AC33
11-06-2009, 07:51 PM
I support having a science/astronomy sub section

The Hubble deep field is one of my favorite pics of space(not posting because pic is really huge):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Hubble_ultra_deep_field_high_rez_edit1.jpg


and another one of my favourites:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_13KrgoBpXUQ/SX87AbK79dI/AAAAAAAAB9w/Eusve_g171M/s400/Earth_Seen_From_The_Voyager.jpg

Hypnosis
11-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Its a great idea! Lot of interesting ideas and facts on this matter that is quite eye opening.

Sub-forum 282 90.10%
Sticky 8 2.56%
I honestly don't care about this topic. 23 7.35%

Misc can do better than this!

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 07:55 PM
When that pic was taken by Voyager 1, how long do you think it took to transmit to Earth and how much did the universe change in the transmission of 4 billion miles away. Furthermore, 19 years later, could Voyager 1 even find Earth now?

anonymous
11-06-2009, 07:56 PM

Skies
11-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah man, I think about it in terms of sound as well. Sound only moves at something like 335m/s, so if you're in a rock concert and sitting 750m back from the front of the stage, you're hearing the music as it was 2 seconds ago (assuming there's no surround speakers or w/e).

Btw guys watch this, it's lengthy, but it's a legit physicist talking about how in quantum theory "nothing" doesn't actually exist because particles are continually poppying into and out of existence randomly.

http://richarddawkins.net/article,4490,A-Universe-From-Nothing-by-Lawrence-Krauss-AAI-2009,Lawrence-Krauss-AAI-RDFRS-Josh-Timonen

Yeah sound is so much slower than light.

Subbed and bookmarked, also just watched the 10 dimension video and it blew my mind, brb explaining that to people at parties when topics like this arise.

Perfection96
11-06-2009, 08:37 PM
bump

ShayZ
11-06-2009, 08:39 PM
relevant to my interest this is

Drop_Dead
11-06-2009, 08:42 PM
i absolutely love these kind of threads. its too bad so many people just view them but dont actually post anything.

i tried to do my part by posting a very interesting link earlier.

tjw
11-06-2009, 09:05 PM
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can someone tell my how an electron can choose to behave like matter, not waves, when it ''knows'' its being observed?

wtf is this bull****?

Ultrablack
11-06-2009, 09:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_Universe

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Read more about that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid

BAD_COMPANY
11-06-2009, 09:45 PM
298 90.30%

Eric-Navy
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
300 votes

Anubis18
11-07-2009, 12:03 AM
can someone tell my how an electron can choose to behave like matter, not waves, when it ''knows'' its being observed?

wtf is this bull****?

the theory is that when not being observed a particle is more like a "wave" of possible positions, its not really anywhere and yet its everywhere that it could be at once. Only when someone observes and measures where the particle really is does it "collapse the wave function" and become a single point again. How consciousness affects this still hasn't been explained, but its been proven.

bmy-
11-07-2009, 12:58 AM
in 4 subforum

tornister
11-07-2009, 01:23 AM
i support this noble idea

voted

KOL40
11-07-2009, 01:23 AM
Okay so black holes are dead stars.

And stars are the birthplaces of all life.

In our universe, both number in countless trillions. Infinite.

But did you ever think that there is some mirror universe to ours? Like in our mirror universe, everywhere that we have stars they have black holes and everywhere we have black holes they have stars???

AC33
11-07-2009, 01:35 AM
When that pic was taken by Voyager 1, how long do you think it took to transmit to Earth and how much did the universe change in the transmission of 4 billion miles away. Furthermore, 19 years later, could Voyager 1 even find Earth now?


Well all forms of electromagnetic radiation(light, microwaves, radio waves, etc) travel at the same speed, and from google conversion i found that 40 000 000 000 miles = 0.00680445713 lightyears

so it would take .006 years for that signal to reach earth (no idea if this is right or not, just making an educated guess based on what I know)


Oh and voyager 1 is still operational:

from wikipedia:

Voyager 1 had as its primary targets the planets Jupiter and Saturn and their associated moons and rings; its current mission is the detection of the heliopause and particle measurements of solar wind and the interstellar medium. Both of the Voyager probes have far outlasted their originally-planned lifespan. Each probe gets its electrical power from three radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs), which are expected to continue to generate enough electric power to let the probes keep communicating with Earth at least until the year 2025.

As of 19 June 2009 (2009 -06-19)[update], Voyager 1 was at a distance of 110.239 AU (approximately 16.49 billion kilometers, 10.22 billion miles, or 0.0017 light years) from the Sun, which makes it the most distant human-made object from Earth.[9] At this distance, it is farther away from the Sun than any known natural solar system object, including Eris and 90377 Sedna, but excluding long-period comets. (Although Sedna has an orbit that takes it 975 AU away from the Sun at aphelion, as of 2006 it is less than 90 AU away from the Sun and approaching its perihelion at 76 AU.[10][11])

At the above distance, light or radio waves, which travel at 299,792.5 kilometers per second (63,241 AU/year or 670,616,629 miles per hour), take over 14.6 hours to reach the Earth from Voyager 1. As a basis for comparison, the Moon is about 1.4 light-seconds from Earth, the sun is approximately 8.5 light-minutes away, Pluto is about 5.5 light-hours, and the nearest star is 4.3 light-years away. As of May 2008, Voyager 1 was traveling at a speed of 17.1 kilometers per second relative to the sun (3.6 AU per year or 61 600 km/h or 38,400 miles per hour), 10% faster than Voyager 2. On November 19, 2015, Voyager 1 will be 133.15 AU from the Sun. Accurate information concerning its location can be found in this NASA paper with heliocentric coordinates of both probes extrapolated up to 2015.


http://www.holoscience.com/news/img/Voyager1.jpg

James_Byrne
11-07-2009, 03:51 AM
Okay so black holes are dead stars.

And stars are the birthplaces of all life.

In our universe, both number in countless trillions. Infinite.

But did you ever think that there is some mirror universe to ours? Like in our mirror universe, everywhere that we have stars they have black holes and everywhere we have black holes they have stars???

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq79/aggreko07/awww.gif






nah just jaking



umm well in a random michio kaku youtube vid he talks about the singularity of a black hole being the opposite to the singularity of the big bang or rather that they're one and the same except from different ends (one has matter converging into it, the black hole and the big bang has matter diverging from it) such that a black hole might be creating big bang type occurances in other universes in the multiverse. or something along those lines.

BAD_COMPANY
11-07-2009, 05:36 AM
bump

jrspeed
11-07-2009, 06:34 AM
voted for sub forum

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 11:14 AM
I could read this sh*t all day... bump

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 01:49 PM
More votes por favor.

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 06:24 PM
I see mods and admin on, so I am going to bump this. Again!

Pa2ad0x
11-07-2009, 06:38 PM
Science subforum - omg yes.

beautiizhername
11-07-2009, 06:39 PM
In for intelligent discussion :D

Fire8085
11-07-2009, 06:43 PM
328 yes votes, lets get it up to 1000.

This can encompass so much more than astrophysics...


Biology,Chemistry, Metaphysics, physics, engineering, geology, astronomy...so much to talk about.

It would also probably draw a few people here searching google for specific topics which = more users on the forum which would most likely increase sales....

How is this a bad thing?

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 06:49 PM
Good point! It WILL increase sales!! Lets go admins... at least give us some kind of answer, gonna keep bumping until we get 1000 votes.

AV_HULK
11-07-2009, 06:51 PM
Here is a what I think is cool, how light works and travels, how the sun as we see it, is actually how it is 8 minutes ago.

Some galaxies we look at are actually how they looked millions of years ago, its just a mind ****, meaning if you were to get there instantly with an amazing telescope and look at earth all you'd see is dinosaurs, or earth before it had life or w/e.



you just blew my fukin mind....not the sun part but the dinosaur thing...



my little contribution....i have this theory, or maybe it already is....but how do we know what how much pain we're actually in

for instance, is someone who has been burned in a fire react to pain like a person who has never felt pain as severe

kinda thinking out loud

Mooch121
11-07-2009, 07:00 PM
Huge fan of this idea. In 4 sub-forum.

Halli
11-07-2009, 07:17 PM
I love this stuff

BAD_COMPANY
11-07-2009, 08:14 PM
http://drjon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/21/universe.jpg

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 08:15 PM
Wow. What caused the Big Bang anyway... was it like a spontaneous combustion?

PaidLaidMaid
11-07-2009, 08:16 PM
lets do this!!

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 08:18 PM
lets do this!!

Need more support from the nation brah.

Culebra
11-07-2009, 08:18 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3314360660_c2ae2482e7.jpg

Is there a high res pic of this? for wallpaper?

BAD_COMPANY
11-07-2009, 08:19 PM
Wow. What caused the Big Bang anyway... was it like a spontaneous combustion?

There are many theories.
quantum fluctuations
Infinate number of big bangs and big crunches
M-theroy
god LULZ
ect..

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 08:33 PM
lol god lulz.

Capt-MoonLight
11-07-2009, 09:03 PM
I voted yes,

JackJackedSON
11-07-2009, 09:11 PM
mind=obliterated

Eric-Navy
11-07-2009, 09:18 PM
lol this thread rocks. need more votes/bumps from you guys.

BAD_COMPANY
11-07-2009, 09:20 PM
Votes are bout Three Fiddy

Soflogator
11-07-2009, 09:24 PM
subforum let's go. this is a great topic IMO, constantly mind=blown

BigChamp89
11-07-2009, 09:26 PM
328 yes votes, lets get it up to 1000.

This can encompass so much more than astrophysics...


Biology,Chemistry, Metaphysics, physics, engineering, geology, astronomy...so much to talk about.


i came

lanketer
11-07-2009, 09:28 PM
http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_reg_E.htm

Check out those videos, they talk about higher dimensions and how to perceive them. They are long but worth it.

voted for sub forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGLPbSMxSUM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKwAS5omW_w&feature=related

check these out too. second video is a mind blown

WiggyWanka
11-07-2009, 10:14 PM
Someone explain this to me: How does Voyager communicate with earth? Waht does it use to transmit pictures and what do we use to receive them? If this works from billions of miles away why don't we use this on earth as a way of communication? Like super wifi or some ****?

BAD_COMPANY
11-08-2009, 11:20 AM
Lets get some Biology up in here

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-themask-
11-08-2009, 12:06 PM
This is a Harvard kid's animation of the inner-life of a cell. It always gets me, absolutely amazing. Sorry i don't know how to embed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvvx5HGpLg

But watch it and your mind will be blown to bits, it's short too. It's like an entire civilization in there, and that's going on in trillions of cells in our bodies at all moments.

I'm going to start a combined math/physics honours degree next year at an awsome canadian university and hopefully one day become a scientist (srs).

Eric-Navy
11-08-2009, 05:30 PM
BVvvx5HGpLg

Eric-Navy
11-08-2009, 05:33 PM
Watched the vid. Mind = shattered.

Mr_dingleberries
11-08-2009, 05:35 PM
Electron Microscope Image of a Fly Foot

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1331/438web.jpg

holy ****ing ****

x_aDrenaLine_x
11-08-2009, 05:36 PM
Def should be a sub-forum i love talking about anything related to space

Capt-MoonLight
11-08-2009, 05:42 PM
http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_reg_E.htm

Check out those videos, they talk about higher dimensions and how to perceive them. They are long but worth it.

voted for sub forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGLPbSMxSUM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKwAS5omW_w&feature=related

check these out too. second video is a mind blown

That dimentions link was pretty interesting. If you want to know what geometry in a 4th dimention looks like. It didn't say what the practical applications of a 4th dimention are though, but my guess is compression technology like zip files etc would benefit from it.

Jag3034
11-08-2009, 06:24 PM
http://www.futuretimeline.net/index.htm

Reading that stuff ^^^^


Kinda of makes me a little disappointed that I wont be alive for some of the really cool stuff that might happen 2200AD+...

Eric-Navy
11-08-2009, 06:45 PM
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beerbaron105
11-08-2009, 06:48 PM
http://www.futuretimeline.net/index.htm

Reading that stuff ^^^^


Kinda of makes me a little disappointed that I wont be alive for some of the really cool stuff that might happen 2200AD+...

You just might brah, while all speculation at the moment, based on trends of read multiple sources stating that those born in the 1960s and beyond will essentially have the opportunity to live as long as they want.

-themask-
11-08-2009, 07:13 PM
BVvvx5HGpLg

Thanks brah, repped.

Frozen_By_You
11-08-2009, 07:49 PM
You just might brah, while all speculation at the moment, based on trends of read multiple sources stating that those born in the 1960s and beyond will essentially have the opportunity to live as long as they want.

Absolutely. And people think i'm crazy when i tell them i'm going to live past 150 years.

It's 2009 and i'm 28. We are already capable of growing skin cells, in 20 years, whole organs and bone structures.

It's already projected (thanks to parkinson's law) that we're going to be able to build a computer that has the same computing capabilities as the human brain in 2013. That's 4 years.

In 2049, we're going to be able to build a computer with the computing capabilities that will equal every human being on the planet. Add in nanotechnologies and cybernetics, DNA correction and nano-implants that will exceed the limits of the normal, organic human body... Call me crazy but if nothing bad happens to me, i think i'll be immortal, pretty much.

Eric-Navy
11-08-2009, 08:02 PM
In 2049, we're going to be able to build a computer with the computing capabilities that will equal every human being on the planet. Add in nanotechnologies and cybernetics, DNA correction and nano-implants that will exceed the limits of the normal, organic human body... Call me crazy but if nothing bad happens to me, i think i'll be immortal, pretty much.

Wow dude. Imagine the possibilites, my mind is honestly blown on this last paragraph.

Jag3034
11-08-2009, 08:41 PM
You just might brah, while all speculation at the moment, based on trends of read multiple sources stating that those born in the 1960s and beyond will essentially have the opportunity to live as long as they want.


Absolutely. And people think i'm crazy when i tell them i'm going to live past 150 years.

It's 2009 and i'm 28. We are already capable of growing skin cells, in 20 years, whole organs and bone structures.

It's already projected (thanks to parkinson's law) that we're going to be able to build a computer that has the same computing capabilities as the human brain in 2013. That's 4 years.

In 2049, we're going to be able to build a computer with the computing capabilities that will equal every human being on the planet. Add in nanotechnologies and cybernetics, DNA correction and nano-implants that will exceed the limits of the normal, organic human body... Call me crazy but if nothing bad happens to me, i think i'll be immortal, pretty much.

I really hope so. When I really think about it I would really like to live for a very long time/forever to see some incredible things. Just thinking about all those new technologies in that link I posted makes me really excited about the future. This kind of stuff interests me greatly. Probably my favorite thing to read about.

Jag3034
11-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Bump... This stuff is cool as hell

GetHimABodyBag
11-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Exercise my right and voted..sub-forum mods!

mrawdtsi
11-09-2009, 11:10 AM
signed.


it sure would be nice to have a section where people could actually have an intelligent discussion without the forum idiots trolling.

/voted

hope this happens....

Eric-Navy
11-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Beep boop beep. See you never

MiKey4
11-09-2009, 01:43 PM
Is there a high res pic of this? for wallpaper?

Yes, Google "anti-crepuscular rays".



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Nobody can touch Feynman on his physics intuition, it is mindblowing.

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Jag3034
11-09-2009, 06:56 PM
Keep this thing up. Would really like to have a board for this

Drop_Dead
11-09-2009, 07:09 PM
bump!



anyone have any new info about... i saw a show on discovery channel where they think they can bring back some dinosaurs OR AT LEAST reverse engineer chicken dna or something and turn them into raptors or a troodon or something. i know they have succeeded in making chickens grow teeth and make them scaly instead of feathered. but that was about a year ago i think.


anyone know what i am talking about?

BOOM BP
11-09-2009, 07:14 PM
bump!



anyone have any new info about... i saw a show on discovery channel where they think they can bring back some dinosaurs OR AT LEAST reverse engineer chicken dna or something and turn them into raptors or a troodon or something. i know they have succeeded in making chickens grow teeth and make them scaly instead of feathered. but that was about a year ago i think.


anyone know what i am talking about?

i read an article in national geographic about this

Jag3034
11-09-2009, 07:18 PM
bump!



anyone have any new info about... i saw a show on discovery channel where they think they can bring back some dinosaurs OR AT LEAST reverse engineer chicken dna or something and turn them into raptors or a troodon or something. i know they have succeeded in making chickens grow teeth and make them scaly instead of feathered. but that was about a year ago i think.


anyone know what i am talking about?

I think I saw that show on discovery, but I have not heard anything new on that.

Dodoz
11-09-2009, 07:20 PM
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3791/earthissmall.jpg

css4lyfe
11-09-2009, 07:31 PM
bump!



anyone have any new info about... i saw a show on discovery channel where they think they can bring back some dinosaurs OR AT LEAST reverse engineer chicken dna or something and turn them into raptors or a troodon or something. i know they have succeeded in making chickens grow teeth and make them scaly instead of feathered. but that was about a year ago i think.


anyone know what i am talking about?

yeah i saw that show and was amazed at the **** we can and will BE ABLE to do in the future

tjw
11-09-2009, 07:40 PM
Absolutely. And people think i'm crazy when i tell them i'm going to live past 150 years.

It's 2009 and i'm 28. We are already capable of growing skin cells, in 20 years, whole organs and bone structures.

It's already projected (thanks to parkinson's law) that we're going to be able to build a computer that has the same computing capabilities as the human brain in 2013. That's 4 years.

In 2049, we're going to be able to build a computer with the computing capabilities that will equal every human being on the planet. Add in nanotechnologies and cybernetics, DNA correction and nano-implants that will exceed the limits of the normal, organic human body... Call me crazy but if nothing bad happens to me, i think i'll be immortal, pretty much.

im pretty sure in 1960 they also predicted to have flying cars by 2000

AlphaMisc
11-09-2009, 07:54 PM
im pretty sure in 1960 they also predicted to have flying cars by 2000

I am pretty sure we have the technology for flying cars. (We have planes, hover crafts, helicopters, and hybrids each)

The reason we don't have them is more economical and political.

Economic and political road blocks are the only thing that will stand in the way of a lot of the things people mentioned above. It's a shame.

Jag3034
11-09-2009, 07:55 PM
"In 2049, we're going to be able to build a computer with the computing capabilities that will equal every human being on the planet."

im pretty sure in 1960 they also predicted to have flying cars by 2000

Well you see take a look at this chart. It shows the trend of growth in super computers...

http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/supercomputing_power.jpg

LtDangle
11-09-2009, 07:58 PM
im not clicking any of those garbage links. god created the unvierse there is no such thing as atoms.

Drop_Dead
11-09-2009, 08:02 PM
im pretty sure in 1960 they also predicted to have flying cars by 2000

we've had flying cars for decades brah. they just arent allowed to be used yet because we dont have a system for them (among other reasons). like airroadways or whatever you wanna call it.

Eric-Navy
11-09-2009, 08:18 PM
im not clicking any of those garbage links. god created the unvierse there is no such thing as atoms.

pipe down phaggot

Jag3034
11-09-2009, 08:32 PM
we've had flying cars for decades brah. they just arent allowed to be used yet because we dont have a system for them (among other reasons). like airroadways or whatever you wanna call it.

Exactly. I dont think we will see people driving in flying cars for another 40+ years. Creating those roadways are very complex, but it will happen.

BigChamp89
11-09-2009, 08:47 PM
im not clicking any of those garbage links. god created the unvierse there is no such thing as atoms.

not sure if srs

ImpulsePainter
11-09-2009, 08:50 PM
good idea, I like it!

T2TL
11-09-2009, 08:57 PM
There's enough threads on these types of topics for a sub forum to make sense. We have a religious&politics and relationship sub forum, I'd rather this as one over those two.

Jag3034
11-09-2009, 11:43 PM
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Box_o_Dynamite
11-10-2009, 12:16 AM
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Nassim Haramein

Sensual Lettuce
11-10-2009, 01:16 AM
wogZN94-5QU&hl

wildphucker
11-10-2009, 01:19 AM
The R/P is a bunch of pooey dogballs anyway.


Most of the threads are about Obama and us politics and Bahai.Phaggot crapping on about muhammed, the quran and allah.

T2TL
11-10-2009, 05:13 AM
The R/P is a bunch of pooey dogballs anyway.


Most of the threads are about Obama and us politics and Bahai.Phaggot crapping on about muhammed, the quran and allah.

lol it's also a bunch of trolling. This sub forum would be one of the least trolled forums and most informative. I say do it even if one of the sub sections have to be gotten rid of

Bryce.MacLaren
11-10-2009, 06:07 AM
Here's my addition - wondering if some miscer could fill me in on whats missing
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Imagining the 10th dimension


0 Dimensions is an arbitrary point in space that lacks length or width
1 Dimension is a line joing two points that only has length
2 Dimensions is a two lines overlapping such that the dimension has both length and width
3 Dimension adds the height element

So far its as if we have a shallow pool with fish in it. The fish can't observe what's above it - just whats in front, behind and to its side. They can't comprehend what it's like to be us. If we were to reach down and lift that fish out we've essentially brought that fish out into the third dimension.

4 Dimension involves time. This is a series of progressive events with a beginning and an end that moves linearly in one direction for us (for now). We can only comprehend the present since the past is a completed event and the future hasn't occurred yet.

However the 4th dimension is realized by assuming the third dimension is a point/ instance in 3 dimensional space connected to another point/instance in 3D space. However we can't move backwards only forwards. Forward movement is defined by chance, decisions and response to external experiences and stimuli.
So we're three dimensional creatures living in the 4th dimension.

5 Dimensions represents the branches in time - represented by the possibilities available to us depending on what choices we make at any instant. It could be whether we wake up on time and go about our day differing from waking up later and experiencing a different set of possibilities in our life.

6 Dimensions represents an alternate reality that would only exist if there was intervention in our time line from the future. A fold exists that would allow our present state in any reality to jump to an alternate reality where direct intervention with our past results in a different future for our selves. This would only hold if our our intervention doesn't affect us directly but affects a copy of our past self - which results in someone - who is much like us but has different result in life; whom we can meet.

7 Dimensions. Here we assume all the possible time lines for our universe realized as a point. This includes all possible alternate realities all dependant on the time line of the current universe as it moves towards it's ultimate end. As this would extend for every person we can realize this point as infinity realizations that exist within our universe - with the universe's time line being the overbearing constant in all instances.

8 Dimensions. Here we assume an alternate universe that is not dependent to ours. One that occurs with differing intial conditions for a big bang that results in a reality which is governed by different laws of physics. There may be no concept of gravity or the speed of light may be different. This alternate universe has its own encapsulation of infitismal branches of time lines at every given time - which is again dependant on the time line of that universe. Let us assume our universe is aptly labelled Universe A and the alternate universe with different intial conditions being Universe B. Then drawing a line between these two is our 8th dimension.

This is where I'm confused

If this line that joins alternate Universe's together is the 8th dimension, than what magnitude are we measuring between these points in the 7th dimension. What exists inbetween these universe's (universi? spelling?)? And finally - why isn't the 8th dimension just a line, why is it a split in the line? Aren't we skipping a dimension here? Is the 8th dimension all possible traversal's between each alternate universe?

9 Dimensions. This involves each 7th dimension universe occurring in parallel with each other. Therefore there must be an overbearing constant - similar to time that exists in the 9th dimension that acts as a constant between each dimension - that sort of pegs each universe to a constant that allows all events to occur at once and allows say an individual to pass between each universe seamlessly - like in a worm hole.

Again it seems like we're skipping a dimension here from a point to 3d to a fold in 3d. Is the 9th dimension linear in only one direction? Does it all jumping from the present in one universe to the past of another? What then is the point of the 8th dimension?

10 Dimensions. All possible universe's (Universi? sp?) with infinite possible time lines in parallel with one another all being simplified to one point. This is where we 'hit a road block' that contains all universe's.

Do we assume then that the arbitrary point in the 10th dimension exisits in a a sort of expanse of 'space' that holds universe's that holds governing laws that apply to all universe's? Are these the same governing laws of that allow super strings to exist? Then the constant's in all universes will share the same sub atomic particles that would obey the same laws of physics that apply in our universe? Then how do alternate universes differ from ours? Wouldn't gravity still be gravity based on the laws that affect our sub atomic particles? Wouldn't the speed of light be the same?

Unless - the make up of sub atomic particles differ in string 'combination' in each universe depending on the resultant big bang in each universe. What would this expanse be called that holds a universe and what is it that allows strings to congregate in such a way as to produce a differing big bang and isolate all universes from one another? Do big bangs create super strings or do super strings create big bangs? Are strings realized as mobius strips just like the 5th dimension?

Eric-Navy
11-10-2009, 07:05 AM
wogZN94-5QU&hl

Wow just watched this with my morning cereal, really cool stuff. Thanks for all the support guys, off to work!

Jag3034
11-10-2009, 10:06 AM
http://www.spacex.com/

I really like that there are companies other then NASA making spacecraft. SpaceX is doing some cool stuff, they say they are able to decrease the amount of money it takes per KG to transport items to space by about 50% which is a huge deal. I cant wait to see when/if SpaceX comes out with some groundbreaking technology.

On a side note SpaceX is still private right now, but there are talks of them going public soon. I can tell you I will be buying quite a bit of stock in their company if they do so. This company has a lot of potential.

Jag3034
11-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Bumpedd

Cool Pic

http://strangepaths.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/galaxies.jpg

-themask-
11-10-2009, 05:12 PM
bump.

Jag3034
11-10-2009, 10:24 PM
bump mutha****a

Ryan711
11-10-2009, 10:34 PM
im pretty sure in 1960 they also predicted to have flying cars by 2000

We have the technology to be able to do so, we just choose not to, big difference. In fact, we've had it well before 2000.

Also, the poster you quoted was wrong, we won't have a computer that is equal to the brain until about 2030 at the earliest.

Jag3034
11-10-2009, 11:52 PM
We have the technology to be able to do so, we just choose not to, big difference. In fact, we've had it well before 2000.

Also, the poster you quoted was wrong, we won't have a computer that is equal to the brain until about 2030 at the earliest.


Here is an exert explaining why these things will happen sooner rather then later.

Between 2005 and 2025, there will be a millionfold increase in computational power, along with vastly improved scanning resolution and bandwidth. Until now, only separate regions of the brain had been modelled - but scientists are now able to combine them into one giant, complete simulation.

Much like the Human Genome Project of the 1990s, there were many in the scientific community who doubted the brain could be indexed and catalogued so quickly. However - like their predecessors - they failed to account for the Law of Accelerating Returns and its massive snowball effect on the gathering of knowledge.

This graph shows that 2025 will be when we have computing capabilities equal to the brain, now of course it might not be dead on, but your saying 2030 and thats close enough.

Here is another graph to explain

http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/exponentialgrowthofcomputers.jpg

obmas
11-11-2009, 12:04 AM
how many votes it gonna even take to make a sub forum?

my mind = incinerated from all the videos posted so far.

Jag3034
11-11-2009, 12:13 AM
how many votes it gonna even take to make a sub forum?

my mind = incinerated from all the videos posted so far.

Same I think there are already enough votes to show there is a lot of interest in having a sub forum like this.

ineed$
11-11-2009, 12:56 AM
sticky this in for later

Drop_Dead
11-11-2009, 10:50 AM
vote or die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jag3034
11-11-2009, 11:51 AM
Lets keep this discussion going. Anyone have some more interesting stuff?

Anubis18
11-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Speaking about computers as powerful as the human brain, there is a pretty popular theory on what will happen when this is reached. The theory is that as soon as we are able to make a computer even slightly more powerful than the human brain, we can use it to engineer its predecessor, which will be even more powerful than itself. This will create a huge snowball effect greatly speeding up the rate that technology increases. Each computer will be set to work creating one even more powerful than itself, this is known as the singularity. As soon as this is reached the already exponential growth of technology will double every year, every month, eventually to a point where it literally doubles in the span of weeks/days. Assuming we are able to create the first computer within 15-20 years, just about every technology you can imagine should be available in our lifetime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
http://singinst.org/overview/whatisthesingularity

pavchaos
11-11-2009, 04:44 PM
in for sub forum please mods.

beerbaron105
11-11-2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/exponentialgrowthofcomputers.jpg


I notice the graph ends at 2000, any new trends depicting current timeline and where we stand?

Jag3034
11-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Speaking about computers as powerful as the human brain, there is a pretty popular theory on what will happen when this is reached. The theory is that as soon as we are able to make a computer even slightly more powerful than the human brain, we can use it to engineer its predecessor, which will be even more powerful than itself. This will create a huge snowball effect greatly speeding up the rate that technology increases. Each computer will be set to work creating one even more powerful than itself, this is known as the singularity. As soon as this is reached the already exponential growth of technology will double every year, every month, eventually to a point where it literally doubles in the span of weeks/days. Assuming we are able to create the first computer within 15-20 years, just about every technology you can imagine should be available in our lifetime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
http://singinst.org/overview/whatisthesingularity

Thanks for the articles and stuff man I read them. Some of the same stuff I was talking about. Its really cool to think where we might be in 50 years. I mean potentialy were going to have the option to live as long as we want. Which would be pretty damn cool. I myself would probably want to live a very very long time so I can see all the new technologies and space exploration.

Jag3034
11-11-2009, 06:28 PM
I just bought a book that has gotten some really good reviews on the singularity subject.

The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology
By: Ray Kurzweil

Anyone read this book or similar books that you would recommend?

chlaxman
11-11-2009, 06:31 PM
I just bought a book that has gotten some really good reviews on the singularity subject.

The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology
By: Ray Kurzweil

Anyone read this book or similar books that you would recommend?

It's not about that, but you should also check out the invention of self-replicating nanomachines and their potential to be the end of the world. Doubt it would happen but it's interesting nonetheless.

Mighty Matt
11-11-2009, 06:31 PM
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Jag3034
11-11-2009, 09:44 PM
I notice the graph ends at 2000, any new trends depicting current timeline and where we stand?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petaflop#Measuring_performance

Check out this link and read the "Records" portion. It shows our crazy advancment from 2000-2009 so far.

Also read the "Cost of computing" portion. It shows our advancment in that also in recent years.

CHART FOR REFERENCE
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/supercomputing_power.jpg

Right now our fastest computer is at 1.7 PetaFlops. Which is somewhere equivilent to a little above 10^15. So I mean if im reading this right we are still following the trend and growing at the pace we need to for these things to happen. So if we have an ExaFlop computer in 2019 like it is predicted below in the very bottom paragraph I posted. We will be above the trend line!

Computer Performance
Name FLOPS
yottaFLOPS 10^24
zettaFLOPS 10^21
exaFLOPS 10^18
petaFLOPS 10^15
teraFLOPS 10^12
gigaFLOPS 10^9
megaFLOPS 10^6
kiloFLOPS 10^3

Future developments
In May 2008 a collaboration was announced between NASA, SGI and Intel to build a 1 petaflops computer, Pleiades, in 2009, scaling up to 10 petaflops by 2012.[21] At the same time, *** intends to build a 20 petaflops supercomputer, Sequoia, at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory until 2011. *** also intends to have an exaflop supercomputer functional by the 2010's to support the Square Kilometre Array. It will be built in either South Africa or Australia, depending on who wins the bid for the SKA. http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/319128/ska_telescope_provide_billion_pcs_worth_processing

Given the current speed of progress, Supercomputers are projected to reach 1 Exaflops in 2019.[22] Erik P. DeBenedictis of Sandia National Laboratories theorizes that a Zettaflop computer is required to accomplish full weather modeling, which could cover a two week time span accurately.[23] Such systems might be built around 2030

Jag3034
11-11-2009, 10:08 PM
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/exponentialgrowthofcomputers.jpg

Computer Performance
Name FLOPS
yottaFLOPS 10^24
zettaFLOPS 10^21
exaFLOPS 10^18
petaFLOPS 10^15
teraFLOPS 10^12
gigaFLOPS 10^9
megaFLOPS 10^6
kiloFLOPS 10^3


Here is our most recent Cost per GigaFlops Data.

2009, September

$0.13 Per GigaFlops

ATI Radeon R800[30] The first high-performance 40nm GPU from ATI. Can reach speeds of 3.04TFLOPS when running at 950MHz. Price per GFLOPS is accurate.

Now I did the calculating and the 3.04 TeraFlops would only cost for 10^12 calculations per second per 390$ at the moment. So going off that chart we are running a bit above 10^12. So we are looking really good on the trend chart. We are actually above the trend by a bit right now or maybe at the top portion of the trend.

ineed$
11-11-2009, 11:11 PM
cool thread

Jag3034
11-12-2009, 12:52 AM
Late night crew vote!!!

njX2h
11-12-2009, 12:55 AM
sub forum

Bulldog0520
11-12-2009, 01:03 AM
fukin forge is always asking for ideas for improvement...there's no reason why we shouldn't have a science subforum. I would love one.

Anubis18
11-12-2009, 01:04 AM
fukin forge is always asking for ideas for improvement...there's no reason why we shouldn't have a science subforum. I would love one.

true has anyone pm'd any mods about this yet?

EasTexan
11-12-2009, 01:15 AM
Sub-forum. I love this stuff.

Jag3034
11-12-2009, 08:15 AM
Bump

RedSoxfan1978
11-12-2009, 08:17 AM
http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/exponentialgrowthofcomputers.jpg

Computer Performance
Name FLOPS
yottaFLOPS 10^24
zettaFLOPS 10^21
exaFLOPS 10^18
petaFLOPS 10^15
teraFLOPS 10^12
gigaFLOPS 10^9
megaFLOPS 10^6
kiloFLOPS 10^3


Here is our most recent Cost per GigaFlops Data.

2009, September

$0.13 Per GigaFlops

ATI Radeon R800[30] The first high-performance 40nm GPU from ATI. Can reach speeds of 3.04TFLOPS when running at 950MHz. Price per GFLOPS is accurate.

Now I did the calculating and the 3.04 TeraFlops would only cost $390 per second at the moment. So going off that chart we are running a bit above 10^12. So we are looking really good on the trend chart. We are actually above the trend by a bit right now or maybe at the top portion of the trend.

SKYNET here we come!! :D

Jag3034
11-12-2009, 04:27 PM
I reall like this hypothetical article from this link/site

http://www.futuretimeline.net/22ndcentury/2100-2149.htm

2120

Immortal software-based humans are entering mainstream society

Adequate hardware to support human-level intelligence was available as far back as the 2020s, thanks to the exponential progress of Moore's Law.* This made it possible to form simulations of neural processes.

However, the underlying software foundation required for "mind uploading" proved to be a vastly greater challenge. Full transfer of human consciousness into artificial substrates posed enormous technical difficulties, in addition to raising ethical and philosophical issues.

The sheer complexity of the brain, and its inherent fragility - along with the many legislative barriers that stood in the way - meant that it was nearly a century before such technology reached the mainstream.

Some breakthroughs occurred in the latter decades of the 21st century, with partial transfer of memories and thought patterns, allowing some limited experience of the mind uploading process. However, it was only through the emergence of picotechnology and strong AI that sufficiently detailed scanning methods became available. This new generation of machines, being orders of magnitude faster and more robust, finally bridged the gap between organic human brains and their synthetic equivalents.

Initially tested on monkeys, the procedure was eventually offered to certain marginalised people including death row inmates and terminally ill patients. Once it could be demonstrated as being safe and reversible, the project garnered a steady stream of free and healthy volunteers, tempted by this new form of computerised immortality.

Years of red tape and legislation followed, including some of the strictest regulations ever enacted into law. Religious and conservative groups voiced their objections to what they saw as a fundamental violation of God's will. At times, this threatened to postpone the technology indefinitely. Eventually though, like so many other breakthroughs in science, the zeitgeist moved on. The level of demand for mind uploading proved to be enormous, and the treatment was made commercially available in the 2120s.

Today, citizens have access to special clinics in which their biological brains can be literally discarded in favour of artificial ones. Rather than simply "duplicating" a mind, the electronic circuitry physically shifts the consciousness, like a sponge soaking up water. Thus, the original personality remains intact during the transition. This vital aspect of the procedure assuages the fear which many have of losing their identity.

For the wealthiest individuals, entire new bodies can be grown, into which the synthetic brains can be transplanted. These bodies may themselves be artificial, with options for partially cyborg or fully robotic replacements. Externally, they are often indistinguishable from real human bodies, but include many hi-tech add-ons and internal features boosting physical and mental abilities.

Not everyone is opting for these types of treatments, however. A significant percentage view them with extreme suspicion, as though somehow immoral and dehumanising. With each passing year, society is becoming increasingly fractured, with an ever-increasing divide between those who seek to enhance themselves, and those who prefer to eschew such technology.

Anubis18
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
I reall like this hypothetical article from this link/site

http://www.futuretimeline.net/22ndcentury/2100-2149.htm

2120

Immortal software-based humans are entering mainstream society

Adequate hardware to support human-level intelligence was available as far back as the 2020s, thanks to the exponential progress of Moore's Law.* This made it possible to form simulations of neural processes.

However, the underlying software foundation required for "mind uploading" proved to be a vastly greater challenge. Full transfer of human consciousness into artificial substrates posed enormous technical difficulties, in addition to raising ethical and philosophical issues.

The sheer complexity of the brain, and its inherent fragility - along with the many legislative barriers that stood in the way - meant that it was nearly a century before such technology reached the mainstream.

Some breakthroughs occurred in the latter decades of the 21st century, with partial transfer of memories and thought patterns, allowing some limited experience of the mind uploading process. However, it was only through the emergence of picotechnology and strong AI that sufficiently detailed scanning methods became available. This new generation of machines, being orders of magnitude faster and more robust, finally bridged the gap between organic human brains and their synthetic equivalents.

Initially tested on monkeys, the procedure was eventually offered to certain marginalised people including death row inmates and terminally ill patients. Once it could be demonstrated as being safe and reversible, the project garnered a steady stream of free and healthy volunteers, tempted by this new form of computerised immortality.

Years of red tape and legislation followed, including some of the strictest regulations ever enacted into law. Religious and conservative groups voiced their objections to what they saw as a fundamental violation of God's will. At times, this threatened to postpone the technology indefinitely. Eventually though, like so many other breakthroughs in science, the zeitgeist moved on. The level of demand for mind uploading proved to be enormous, and the treatment was made commercially available in the 2120s.

Today, citizens have access to special clinics in which their biological brains can be literally discarded in favour of artificial ones. Rather than simply "duplicating" a mind, the electronic circuitry physically shifts the consciousness, like a sponge soaking up water. Thus, the original personality remains intact during the transition. This vital aspect of the procedure assuages the fear which many have of losing their identity.

For the wealthiest individuals, entire new bodies can be grown, into which the synthetic brains can be transplanted. These bodies may themselves be artificial, with options for partially cyborg or fully robotic replacements. Externally, they are often indistinguishable from real human bodies, but include many hi-tech add-ons and internal features boosting physical and mental abilities.

Not everyone is opting for these types of treatments, however. A significant percentage view them with extreme suspicion, as though somehow immoral and dehumanising. With each passing year, society is becoming increasingly fractured, with an ever-increasing divide between those who seek to enhance themselves, and those who prefer to eschew such technology.

There are a few forums dedicated to this type of thing, its called "transhumanism" I think and its all about using technology and genetic engineering as the supposed next step in evolution. Using our combined knowledge to try and perfect the dna and biology that has been almost randomly and haphazardly evolved by natural selection. Of course it'll take a while for all the technologies like nano, genetic, medical, robotics etc. to reach this point but its still really interesting to see how many people are actually following this type of thing and some of the really creative ideas they have about the world in the future. But we also have to take into account that if things continue to progress exponentially, it could be much sooner for some of these technologies than we might think.

I feel like there were more but I'll edit my post when I find them
http://www.imminst.org/
www.imminst.org/forum/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

obmas
11-12-2009, 05:35 PM
http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2009/11/06/antimatter-signature-detected-in-lightning.html

Jag3034
11-12-2009, 06:13 PM
There are a few forums dedicated to this type of thing, its called "transhumanism" I think and its all about using technology and genetic engineering as the supposed next step in evolution. Using our combined knowledge to try and perfect the dna and biology that has been almost randomly and haphazardly evolved by natural selection. Of course it'll take a while for all the technologies like nano, genetic, medical, robotics etc. to reach this point but its still really interesting to see how many people are actually following this type of thing and some of the really creative ideas they have about the world in the future. But we also have to take into account that if things continue to progress exponentially, it could be much sooner for some of these technologies than we might think.

I feel like there were more but I'll edit my post when I find them
http://www.imminst.org/
www.imminst.org/forum/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Thanks man I appreciate it. Too bad the forum is kinda slow. Thats why I would love a sub-forum here with all the traffic this place brings.

On recharge ill get you later

Anubis18
11-12-2009, 06:22 PM
Thanks man I appreciate it. Too bad the forum is kinda slow. Thats why I would love a sub-forum here with all the traffic this place brings.

On recharge ill get you later

np brah you got me yesterday I think

yeah I think I'm gonna pm forge, we got almost 90% of 500 votes for a subforum so maybe they'll take this request seriously for once

-themask-
11-12-2009, 06:27 PM
nearly 500 people want this as a sub-forum. Come on bb.com.

Bababooey100
11-12-2009, 06:36 PM
nearly 500 people want this as a sub-forum. Come on bb.com.

You don't want intelligence mixed in with "My GF yelled at me when I tried to PIITB" threads?


Does anybody else NOT like the fact that the Science Channel and History are "competing" on Tues. night with space/physics shows? I have to remember to DVR either one channel or the other. I forgot this week...yes mad.

I also wish they'd got a bit more in depth. A lot of these shows already take someone with a brain to watch them, but I'd like some more complexity. Most of the shows on the Sci. Chan. with Brian Cox seem to be a bit more technical than "The Universe"....I wish there were more of them.

Anubis18
11-12-2009, 06:41 PM
It's not about that, but you should also check out the invention of self-replicating nanomachines and their potential to be the end of the world. Doubt it would happen but it's interesting nonetheless.

That's a problem with just about any really powerful technology, depending on how it's used it can either greatly benefit everyone or cause major destruction. Michio Kaku talks about it better than I can

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Jag3034
11-12-2009, 07:45 PM
That's a problem with just about any really powerful technology, depending on how it's used it can either greatly benefit everyone or cause major destruction. Michio Kaku talks about it better than I can



Michio Kaku always explains things very well in a way that everyone can understand.

Eric-Navy
11-12-2009, 07:49 PM
We can definitely get this as a sub-forum. Thanks for the consistency from some of you guys.

beerbaron105
11-12-2009, 07:51 PM
I just bought a book that has gotten some really good reviews on the singularity subject.

The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology
By: Ray Kurzweil

Anyone read this book or similar books that you would recommend?

I am reading it now, good book to those with an open mind

ericescobar15
11-12-2009, 07:51 PM
it's time misc

Bryce.MacLaren
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
This thread is turning into a sea thread - its hard to keep track of topics

with the rate at which new threads are made in the misc we lose gold mine threads like these.

Why can't we have another section? BB.com is already swimming in bajillions; retarded sections like outdoor recreation, wwe and the queen f@g load of them all - the r/p section have their own sections. Why can't we have a troll proof section in the misc?

Jag3034
11-13-2009, 07:22 PM
bump

BigChamp89
11-13-2009, 08:40 PM
That's a problem with just about any really powerful technology, depending on how it's used it can either greatly benefit everyone or cause major destruction. Michio Kaku talks about it better than I can

yHbnM_42mQE

mind = blown
michios a cool bro, i enjoy watching his "time" show on the science channel, not sure if theres been any new ones lately tho

BigNeck
11-13-2009, 08:45 PM
in!! I love this stuff

Eric-Navy
11-14-2009, 11:49 AM
This thread is turning into a sea thread - its hard to keep track of topics

with the rate at which new threads are made in the misc we lose gold mine threads like these.

Why can't we have another section? BB.com is already swimming in bajillions; retarded sections like outdoor recreation, wwe and the queen f@g load of them all - the r/p section have their own sections. Why can't we have a troll proof section in the misc?

Careful, I believe Outdoor Recreation is Fitnessman's baby.

Either way, Science & Technology or Science & Astronomy should definitely be a sub-forum!

Its hard to see the demand and I know it took a long time to get these votes but thats because it is in one in a million threads on the misc.

I believe the sub-forum would be just as lively as any of the other ones. Even the Formal Debate forum!

Jag3034
11-14-2009, 02:58 PM
Careful, I believe Outdoor Recreation is Fitnessman's baby.

Either way, Science & Technology or Science & Astronomy should definitely be a sub-forum!

Its hard to see the demand and I know it took a long time to get these votes but thats because it is in one in a million threads on the misc.

I believe the sub-forum would be just as lively as any of the other ones. Even the Formal Debate forum!

I agree, I think it would be the top or one of the top 2 sub-forums on the misc.

beerbaron105
11-14-2009, 03:00 PM
so what is the next step...who do we contact!

Jag3034
11-14-2009, 03:18 PM
so what is the next step...who do we contact!

I Pm'ed forge a couple days ago about this thread and asked if he could mention the idea to an admin. Hasnt replied yet.

If your interested in haveing the sub-forum PM a MOD so they see the idea more.

BigChamp89
11-14-2009, 08:01 PM
This thread is turning into a sea thread - its hard to keep track of topics

with the rate at which new threads are made in the misc we lose gold mine threads like these.

Why can't we have another section? BB.com is already swimming in bajillions; retarded sections like outdoor recreation, wwe and the queen f@g load of them all - the r/p section have their own sections. Why can't we have a troll proof section in the misc?

lmao yea WWE and MMA sections are pretty ridiculous, why dont they just put them under the "sports" section??!

Anubis18
11-15-2009, 05:18 PM
I Pm'ed forge a couple days ago about this thread and asked if he could mention the idea to an admin. Hasnt replied yet.

If your interested in haveing the sub-forum PM a MOD so they see the idea more.

pm'd forge a few days ago, he said he likes the idea and he's brought it up before, but who ever's in charge shot it down, we'll keep this thread going though

BO$$
11-15-2009, 05:22 PM
Definately has to be done

Jag3034
11-15-2009, 09:35 PM
pm'd forge a few days ago, he said he likes the idea and he's brought it up before, but who ever's in charge shot it down, we'll keep this thread going though

Hmm that sucks. Maybe he should show an admin this thread with the poll and all. I think it would seriously be one of the more active sub-forums in the misc.

BO$$
11-16-2009, 04:42 AM
BUMP

Come on mods, 500 votes

BAD_COMPANY
11-16-2009, 10:56 PM
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/

Bulldog0520
11-18-2009, 01:48 AM
bump

i'm bored, anyone got anything new?

and wtf...mods are slacking

EasTexan
11-18-2009, 01:51 AM
Music.. WWE.. fantasy Sports.. Religion.. etc and we can't have a Science/Technology Section?

http://i50.tinypic.com/mt89jr.jpg

viper30j
11-18-2009, 02:11 AM
Anyone have any good vids or informational sites on quantum theory basics? The double slit experiment fascinates me!!! The behavior of electrons change simply from there being an observer present... it's just mind boggeling. I want to know more about this.. and why it happens, and the possible implications.

I would lul if the universe is all about perception. And because the observer changes the actions of the particle we could somehow control it haha :) Maybe jesus could do this to perform miracles. (JK LMFAO)

Eric-Navy
11-18-2009, 11:46 AM
Anyone have any good vids or informational sites on quantum theory basics? The double slit experiment fascinates me!!! The behavior of electrons change simply from there being an observer present... it's just mind boggeling. I want to know more about this.. and why it happens, and the possible implications.

I would lul if the universe is all about perception. And because the observer changes the actions of the particle we could somehow control it haha :) Maybe jesus could do this to perform miracles. (JK LMFAO)

Wow, quite an insight... Kinda blew muh mind. heheh

StevieMe
11-18-2009, 12:41 PM
Here we are posting on computers, powered by electricity, communicating through the internet. Ironic how we can't have a science/tech subforum since without it, none of these forums or sub-forums would exist in the first place. Think mods, THINK.

Jag3034
11-18-2009, 01:31 PM
Music.. WWE.. fantasy Sports.. Religion.. etc and we can't have a Science/Technology Section?



I agree its completely ridiculous to have those sub-forums but not a Science/technology one...

Maybe we should ask a MOD to sticky this for now... Then it will get more exposure hopefully in turn more people wanting a new sub-forum

Galacticus24
11-19-2009, 01:51 AM
this forum would be improved immensely by opening a scinece/technology sub forum. science and intellectual discussion gets completely annihilated in the misc. it doesnt stand a chance. it's a different mindset.

vitriol
11-19-2009, 01:56 AM
in, signed, whatever..

would love to see a science/tech sub-forum

obmas
11-19-2009, 03:40 AM
WTF mods?

HAVE YOU NO CONIPASION?

BAD_COMPANY
11-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Bump

dudefromcali
11-19-2009, 09:36 PM
oh hell yes, supporting and bumping.

Who?
11-19-2009, 09:38 PM
http://www.physicsforums.com/index.php

Richard Feynman lectures---> http://vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8

Quantum electrodynamics explained by Feynman--> http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/45

Anubis18
11-20-2009, 01:03 AM
Anyone have any good vids or informational sites on quantum theory basics? The double slit experiment fascinates me!!! The behavior of electrons change simply from there being an observer present... it's just mind boggeling. I want to know more about this.. and why it happens, and the possible implications.

I would lul if the universe is all about perception. And because the observer changes the actions of the particle we could somehow control it haha :) Maybe jesus could do this to perform miracles. (JK LMFAO)



The most amazing thing about quantum physics imo, is the relationship between the "observer's" consciousness and the outside world. It's amazing to me that consciousness is the most fundamental thing in life, and yet we hardly understand it. Everything we know about the world comes from our five senses, which are ultimately filtered through our consciousness. Everything we believe to be "real" are eletrical and chemical signals in the brain (matrix anyone?). Without understanding consciousness I don't think we can ever hope to truly understand anything else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind


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had some better videos but can't seem to find them :P

dyeezy
11-20-2009, 01:10 AM
so anyone know what happened before the big bang? ive been discussing this topic in english and the other side says that it was god or a "designer" created it.

Anubis18
11-20-2009, 01:44 AM
so anyone know what happened before the big bang? ive been discussing this topic in english and the other side says that it was god or a "designer" created it.

What do you mean by "happened before the big bang", do you mean what caused it? Time and space didn't exist until the big bang, so you can't really say what was "before" it, or even "where" it happened. As for what caused it, at the moment it's believed that it was the collision between two higher dimensional "membranes" called branes. These exist above our 4th dimensional universe, literally outside of time. It's possible they collide all the time and the energy creates billions of universes, literally right next to ours, but separated by the dimensions in a way that we can't reach them.

ImHuge07
11-20-2009, 01:46 AM
Wow. What caused the Big Bang anyway... was it like a spontaneous combustion?

Some believe that matter and anti-matter collided and canceled each other out but there was more matter than anti-matter and we are the result of the surviving matter.

Jag3034
11-20-2009, 01:59 AM
so anyone know what happened before the big bang? ive been discussing this topic in english and the other side says that it was god or a "designer" created it.

There is a theory that there are many many universes and bigger universes produce "baby universes" that grow into a big universe and the process starts over again.

-rg3uNrI8tE

Anubis18
11-20-2009, 02:34 AM
There is a theory that there are many many universes and bigger universes produce "baby universes" that grow into a big universe and the process starts over again.

-rg3uNrI8tE

this is another theory, but it doesn't explain how the original universe began. One of the theories I heard one time that I thought was really cool is that new universes are created by black holes, at the singularity the fabric of space is curved so completely that it becomes a "bubble" that pinches off from its parent universe. This universe will have similar properties to its parent, including gravity, electromagnetism etc. Since black holes only form in universes with stars, and stars can only exist when the gravity and other forces are just right, only universes with perfect properties for stars (and life coincidentally) create new universes. Almost like natural selection on a huge scale, meaning that after a period of "evolution" almost all universes that exist will have the right properties for stars to form.

Jag3034
11-20-2009, 02:56 AM
this is another theory, but it doesn't explain how the original universe began. One of the theories I heard one time that I thought was really cool is that new universes are created by black holes, at the singularity the fabric of space is curved so completely that it becomes a "bubble" that pinches off from its parent universe. This universe will have similar properties to its parent, including gravity, electromagnetism etc. Since black holes only form in universes with stars, and stars can only exist when the gravity and other forces are just right, only universes with perfect properties for stars (and life coincidentally) create new universes. Almost like natural selection on a huge scale, meaning that after a period of "evolution" almost all universes that exist will have the right properties for stars to form.

So there could be other universes with completely different rules regarding physics and such? Thats insane to think about.

Anubis18
11-20-2009, 03:22 AM
So there could be other universes with completely different rules regarding physics and such? Thats insane to think about.

yeah alot of scientists say it's amazing that all of the laws in this universe are so perfect. Even a slight change in gravity, electromagnetic, weak or strong nuclear forces would make things like stars and planets impossible. The two possibilities are that obviously no life would exist in a universe like this so for anyone to even speculate on it we would have to be in a universe conducive to life, if it were any other way no one would be around to notice it. Or the other possibility is that the laws were carefully arranged to make everything possible, meaning that possibly there was some "creator" involved. One of those things we may never know :P

dyeezy
11-20-2009, 03:34 AM
What do you mean by "happened before the big bang", do you mean what caused it? Time and space didn't exist until the big bang, so you can't really say what was "before" it, or even "where" it happened. As for what caused it, at the moment it's believed that it was the collision between two higher dimensional "membranes" called branes. These exist above our 4th dimensional universe, literally outside of time. It's possible they collide all the time and the energy creates billions of universes, literally right next to ours, but separated by the dimensions in a way that we can't reach them.

holy ****. mind= blown. wtf is a 4th dimension. i need to take a physics class.

obmas
11-20-2009, 03:38 AM
holy ****. mind= blown. wtf is a 4th dimension. i need to take a physics class.

4th dimension is time....

dyeezy
11-20-2009, 03:41 AM
4th dimension is time....

o snap. how many dimensions are there.

Anubis18
11-20-2009, 03:42 AM
holy ****. mind= blown. wtf is a 4th dimension. i need to take a physics class.

The 4th dimension is time. Think about it like this, if you take a one dimensional point and add length, its two dimensions, add depth and its a three dimensional object, add "duration" or time and it becomes a 4th dimensional object. This video gives you a full description of how to imagine it all the way up to 10 dimensions (pretty much inconcievable to the human mind, but still gives you an idea). But if you were able to see in the 4th dimension, a person would look like a long worm with one end being their infant self, and the other end their older self before death. Because we are limited to the 3rd dimension we can only see "slides" or individual sections of this 4th dimensional object.
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beerbaron105
11-20-2009, 06:04 AM
well over 500 people voting in favor of subforum....

BO$$
11-20-2009, 08:33 AM
bump

CLK-GTR
11-20-2009, 11:41 AM
o snap. how many dimensions are there.

depends which theory you believe. most believe between 10 and 11, and one mathematical theory predicts infinite dimensions

BO$$
11-20-2009, 01:19 PM
Sent a pm to Sawastea about this, he said that he will inform other mods about it.

Eric-Navy
11-20-2009, 02:05 PM
Sent a pm to Sawastea about this, he said that he will inform other mods about it.

Sweet. gjdm. I sent the link and a proposition to a few mods. I would like to be given some sort of answer on the subject.

That dimension stuff is really cool when you think about it.

Jag3034
11-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Check out this new article.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/11/***-has-achieved-cat-scale-brain.html


Now although below it is for every $1,000. You can still see the improvement. Cat simulation is 15 times greater then a mouse simulation.

http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/images/exponentialgrowthofcomputers.jpg