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jmonty
08-13-2009, 07:48 PM
Trends by State 1985-2008

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jmonty
08-13-2009, 07:49 PM
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jmonty
08-13-2009, 07:50 PM
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http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html#State

this is just incase you all were not aware. i knew the problem was bad but these maps really help show how bad obesity has gotten. yes, bmi is not perfect for alot of people here would technically be considered 'obese' even though they are fit and have a healthy body fat %, but it is the data available.

Zixxer10R
08-13-2009, 07:50 PM
well im glad to see that they are right about michigan lol

nads786
08-13-2009, 07:51 PM
i wonder why colorado is the least fat state?

Blindead
08-13-2009, 07:52 PM
son, I am dissapoint.

jmonty
08-13-2009, 07:55 PM
i wonder why colorado is the least fat state?

apparently alot of people wonder that. i live there now and i'm just astounded by the number extent of the fitness trails in town as well as all the outdoor activities that are available. i mean, i can get on a bicycle and ride for hours in any direction. not that i do that too often.. but i could! :D

hwpnow
08-13-2009, 08:28 PM
i wonder why colorado is the least fat state?

http://coloradospringsasource.googlepages.com/SportsRec-Climber.jpg/SportsRec-Climber-full.jpg

http://www.alpine-motel.com/pages/images/Mountain%20Biking%20Nelson%20BC.jpg

http://superskis.com/images/skiing2_vnc.jpg

http://www.whenwegetthere.com/tourist_attraction_images/land_tourist_attractions/snowboarding/snowboarding.jpg

http://www.oars.com/images/rafting110.jpg

Dave22reborn
08-13-2009, 08:39 PM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

lightningwatche
08-13-2009, 08:48 PM
[img]http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/animated_map_slides/map23.jpg
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/animated_map_slides/map24.jpg
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html#State


Looks like it already reached steady state.

Look at Oregon, Arizona, Wisconsin, Long Island, and New York.

ElHombre
08-13-2009, 08:50 PM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

stupid fat fcks who can't put down the fork will bring the medical system down with their expensive chronic ailments. almost all americans will be fat and diabetic at this point (as it is, the majority of americans are overweight).

clive
08-13-2009, 08:51 PM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

It's very worrying; it's getting bad in the UK too.
Easily more fat people than trim ones when you start looking.
Despite all the information on the hazards of being over weight it still continues to get worse year by year.

DangerDan
08-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Go Colorado.


Fat people suck.

Work at a grocery store, see so many fat fuks. I just wanna tell them to quit buying all this **** cause they're the most hideous Jabba the Hut looking mother****ers I've ever seen.


but I don't wanna get fired. lol.

jmonty
08-13-2009, 08:55 PM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

depends on what we teach the children of today. ;)

*cheesy* but true..

i think alot of people who are fat as holy hell now are just beyond saving. not that we shouldn't try.. but we need to help the next generation too.

Beatitude
08-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Wow, that is actually downright frightening. I kept watching the shifts and I'm like "There's a decrease coming, just be patient, there's a decrease coming" and it kept getting higher.

We talk about diet and such, but has the American diet honestly changed that much in so few years? Didn't we already have a reputation for fast food in the 80s? If anything, our diet has probably slightly improved.

The real culprit is a lack of exercise. People don't do physically engaging leisure as much. Computers are taking over.

jmonty
08-13-2009, 09:01 PM
Work at a grocery store, see so many fat fuks. I just wanna tell them to quit buying all this **** cause they're the most hideous Jabba the Hut looking mother****ers I've ever seen.



lol

hidden cam ftw on your last day. :D

"no you CAN NOT have these cheezy poofs and sodas--you are a disgusting fat body!"

where is Gunnery Sergeant Hartman when we need him...

clive
08-13-2009, 09:04 PM
depends on what we teach the children of today. ;)

*cheesy* but true..

i think alot of people who are fat as holy hell now are just beyond saving. not that we shouldn't try.. but we need to help the next generation too.


I agree but that is difficult, it's been proved that children from overweight parents don't stand much chance of being a healthy weight themselves.
It's looking like a vicious circle that's very hard to break.

jmonty
08-13-2009, 09:04 PM
We talk about diet and such, but has the American diet honestly changed that much in so few years? Didn't we already have a reputation for fast food in the 80s? If anything, our diet has probably slightly improved.

fast food became huge in the 50s i believe. i think what changed was moderation and the decline of the great depression and ww2 generation. =/

just a guess from my limited studies of US history but this might make for an interesting study.



The real culprit is a lack of exercise. People don't do physically engaging leisure as much. Computers are taking over.

definitely.

Dave22reborn
08-13-2009, 09:05 PM
depends on what we teach the children of today. ;)

*cheesy* but true..

i think alot of people who are fat as holy hell now are just beyond saving. not that we shouldn't try.. but we need to help the next generation too.

We aren't teaching the children of today anything. We're actually cutting P.E. classes.

jmonty
08-13-2009, 09:05 PM
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Fernando12
08-13-2009, 09:16 PM
CO Represent

Beatitude
08-13-2009, 09:19 PM
I'm going to expand this topic if I may:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44342000/gif/_44342178_global_obesity_map416.gif

Looks like pretty much all of the 1st world is on the road to fatness, but W. Europe is still doing better than the US despite also having easy access to computers and such. People say Americans eat really bad, but I have a hard time believing that Europe is too much better because they still eat a decent amount of crap, plus they drink more. Do they just exercise more?

Halfway
08-13-2009, 09:42 PM
So around the time the Low Fat revolution took off, americans got fatter.

who would have thought?

US_Ranger
08-13-2009, 09:52 PM
I'm going to expand this topic if I may:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44342000/gif/_44342178_global_obesity_map416.gif

Looks like pretty much all of the 1st world is on the road to fatness, but W. Europe is still doing better than the US despite also having easy access to computers and such. People say Americans eat really bad, but I have a hard time believing that Europe is too much better because they still eat a decent amount of crap, plus they drink more. Do they just exercise more?

When I was in Europe, I was walking AT LEAST 5 miles everyday. This isn't counting tourist **** either, it was when I was visiting my sister and actually chilling. There is nowhere to park and all of western Europe is basically set up for walking and public transportation. On a good day I'd probably walk 10 miles. So walking 50 miles a week probably burns a lot more calories than walking from your house to your driveway and from the parking lot to the motorized cart in the grocery store.

ElMariachi
08-13-2009, 11:13 PM
i wonder why colorado is the least fat state?



The whole state is like one giant over-sized national park. No real massive metropolitan areas aside from Denver which is still only the 24th biggest city in the US.

Beatitude
08-13-2009, 11:27 PM
An interesting observation I noticed: 2005 Louisiana was one of the first states to hit red (30% or more). In 2006, the year following Katrina, it sunk back to orange and has stayed that way thus far. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but it's a good guess that the sudden stress and forced physical exertion of easily the most densely populated spot in Louisiana as they underwent the long process of repairing their homes and such made a difference.

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You know, although diet and especially exercise are the main problem, I bet the fact that the baby boomers are going through their late 40s and 50s isn't helping since that's prime time to be heavy.

Moh7
08-13-2009, 11:38 PM
sooooo i should be a personal trainer since everyones ganna be fat?

BBmisc420196
08-13-2009, 11:58 PM
An interesting observation I noticed: 2005 Louisiana was one of the first states to hit red (30% or more). In 2006, the year following Katrina, it sunk back to orange and has stayed that way thus far. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but it's a good guess that the sudden stress and forced physical exertion of easily the most densely populated spot in Louisiana as they underwent the long process of repairing their homes and such made a difference.

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You know, although diet and especially exercise are the main problem, I bet the fact that the baby boomers are going through their late 40s and 50s isn't helping since that's prime time to be heavy.

Mabey its possible that the larger people were unable to quickly escape and met their fate? (no negz)

LunicaAshes
08-14-2009, 12:04 AM
They are underestimating Alaska if anything. I was just thinking today how almost the entire population is either fat, ugly or old... with the majority being all of the above, it seems. :(

FIVE OAKES
08-14-2009, 12:06 AM
Work at a grocery store, see so many fat fuks. I just wanna tell them to quit buying all this **** cause they're the most hideous Jabba the Hut looking mother****ers I've ever seen.



lol...I was thinking the same thing at the grocery store yesterday. I saw a "well-rounded individual" carrying a 12 pack of soda walking into the cookies/potato chips/snack aisle and I just wanted to slap him in the face and say "NO! Bad fatty!"

FIVE OAKES
08-14-2009, 12:24 AM
I'm going to expand this topic if I may:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44342000/gif/_44342178_global_obesity_map416.gif

Looks like pretty much all of the 1st world is on the road to fatness, but W. Europe is still doing better than the US despite also having easy access to computers and such. People say Americans eat really bad, but I have a hard time believing that Europe is too much better because they still eat a decent amount of crap, plus they drink more. Do they just exercise more?

They do eat a lot of high-calorie food (fried foods, beer, etc) , but far less junk food.

The junk food aisle in an American grocery store is about as big as a whole German supermarket. They tend to eat more "real" food instead of all the corn-starch/chemical/sugar concoctions that Americans munch on. And they don't rely so much on microwaves and frozen foods. Their diets in general are much more healthy.....except for all the baked goods they eat - but even those are more natural, "real" baked goods....

Plus there are far fewer fast-food/chain restaurants.

And, like US_RANGER said, they walk and bike much more. Europe is waaaaaaaaaaaay more bike friendly. And public trasportation is great. You don't really need a car at all. You can get anywhere you want with a combination of bike, foot and public transportation.

And - this is a big one - they don't try to coddle fat people like America does. They don't tell people it's ok to be fat.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 12:27 AM
stupid fat fcks who can't put down the fork will bring the medical system down with their expensive chronic ailments. almost all americans will be fat and diabetic at this point (as it is, the majority of americans are overweight).

Well sure, that's what'll happen if we have a single payer program or continue using government coercion to extend insurance and so on. In a naturally functioning market, the point would be that only voluntary transactions would occur and so if fat people were willing to pay more for procedures that needed to be done on them, then that's what would happen, no big deal.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 12:31 AM
They do eat a lot of high-calorie food (fried foods, beer, etc) , but far less junk food.

The junk food aisle in an American grocery store is about as big as a whole German supermarket. They tend to eat more "real" food instead of all the corn-starch/chemical/sugar concoctions that Americans munch on. And they don't rely so much on microwaves and frozen foods. Their diets in general are much more healthy.....except for all the baked goods they eat - but even those are more natural, "real" baked goods....

Plus there are far fewer fast-food/chain restaurants.

And, like US_RANGER said, they walk and bike much more. Europe is waaaaaaaaaaaay more bike friendly. And public trasportation is great. You don't really need a car at all. You can get anywhere you want with a combination of bike, foot and public transportation.

And - this is a big one - they don't try to coddle fat people like America does. They don't tell people it's ok to be fat.



I don't think the "need" for a car in the US compared to Europe is a result of public transportion directly so much as it that the US is larger than Europe. If you got a car in Europe you can drive to another country within the day and get back. And if each individual country is smaller, then of course they're gonna use bikes more often.

Furthermore, we don't really know how much of our stuff bein spread around so much and requiring us to use cars is due to the fact that most roads are publicly owned. If there were more private roads, then people would see the bills attached to driving more directly and maybe that would incentivize more people to ride bikes and more people to build business buildings closer to homes and so on so that people would ride bikes more often or at least car pool, which would also mean less driving around in cars and therefore fewer emissions.

or at least that's one possible outcome, lol

Not to mention we subsidize corn and put tariffs and quotas on sugar so we end up making it so that sugar is more expensive so therefore much of our foodstuffs have high fructose corn syrup instead of normal sugar. Too much sugar is obviously bad, but HFCS is even worse and gets stored as fat more readily compared to sugar which your body uses for energy more readily.

It's probably not any ONE particular thing causing the rise in obesity.

LunicaAshes
08-14-2009, 12:42 AM
sooooo i should be a personal trainer since everyones ganna be fat?

That's making the assumption that any of them will be motivated to do anything about it. At least enough for a continuous paycheck.

Though you might be able to make enough in January to cover the rest of the year. :D

frankenstein
08-14-2009, 01:01 AM
Go Colorado.


Fat people suck.

Work at a grocery store, see so many fat fuks. I just wanna tell them to quit buying all this **** cause they're the most hideous Jabba the Hut looking mother****ers I've ever seen.


but I don't wanna get fired. lol.

I should get a 2nd job at a grocery store for kicks, telling fat asses to stop buying 3 liters of orange soda and potato chips; that there grotesque figure will be taken out of my paycheck. I wonder how long it would take for me to get fired. I should move from grocery store to grocery store. BTW, see my sig that I've had for 5 years to see my thoughts on fat people. Yes, I do have a BS as a dietician. I also like to go out a lot, yet I've not gained a pound that wasn't voluntary. Seriously, I have no sympathy for fat people and yes, I do automatically think less of fat people the minute I meet them.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 01:25 AM
I should get a 2nd job at a grocery store for kicks, telling fat asses to stop buying 3 liters of orange soda and potato chips; that there grotesque figure will be taken out of my paycheck. I wonder how long it would take for me to get fired. I should move from grocery store to grocery store. BTW, see my sig that I've had for 5 years to see my thoughts on fat people. Yes, I do have a BS as a dietician. I also like to go out a lot, yet I've not gained a pound that wasn't voluntary. Seriously, I have no sympathy for fat people and yes, I do automatically think less of fat people the minute I meet them.

Sorry you feel that way. :(

Anyways, I just don't like it when folks whine about being fat yet don't do anything. I might run into pitfalls and stuff, but I don't whine about the fatness itself since it's my own fault I choose to eat so much. I basically tell other fat people the same thing since I feel that they're more likely to listen to another fat person.

ElMariachi
08-14-2009, 01:34 AM
Sorry you feel that way. :(

Anyways, I just don't like it when folks whine about being fat yet don't do anything. I might run into pitfalls and stuff, but I don't whine about the fatness itself since it's my own fault I choose to eat so much. I basically tell other fat people the same thing since I feel that they're more likely to listen to another fat person.


I hear you. I'm Polish and I've definitely got the fat gene. I was pretty chubby at times as a little kid and if I'm not busting my ass working out, I put on the weight PDQ and its only intensified after I turned 25 or so.

I was a long distance marathon runner throughout high school and early college/Army. After the Army I've turned to weight-lifting and have put on a crapload of muscle in the hopes of being able to boost my normal metabolism to keep the fat off.

I also cut out most of the carbs in my diet and now routinely eat a high protein/medium fat/low carb diet and it seems to be working pretty well for me.

jmonty
08-14-2009, 06:02 AM
sooooo i should be a personal trainer since everyones ganna be fat?

i first saw this info in a personal fitness and wellness class, and the instructor said he knows someone with a phd the field that makes good money helping people lose weight, mainly by just telling them to stop drinking pop.. *facepalm*

Maestro
08-14-2009, 07:06 AM
http://coloradospringsasource.googlepages.com/SportsRec-Climber.jpg/SportsRec-Climber-full.jpg

http://www.alpine-motel.com/pages/images/Mountain%20Biking%20Nelson%20BC.jpg

http://superskis.com/images/skiing2_vnc.jpg

http://www.whenwegetthere.com/tourist_attraction_images/land_tourist_attractions/snowboarding/snowboarding.jpg

http://www.oars.com/images/rafting110.jpg

Calfornia has all of that, and then some (yes even the snow) so thats not a good excuse.

Steak_n_Taters
08-14-2009, 07:20 AM
Shows like "More to Love" don't help either:

http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_more_to_love.jpg

Telling people this is "normal" and "ok" and "beautiful."

NO IT'S NOT YOU LAZY FAT ****S!

/rage

IMO, if socialized healthcare goes through, if you are over 35% bodyfat and can't prove it's because of a real medical condition (hypothyroid or something), you get no coverage until you get down to a healthier weight.

Also, btw, I'm hypothyroid, and it's easy to control and easy to control my weight.

Maestro
08-14-2009, 07:23 AM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

Hello?

2012? We'll all be dead by the end of that year.

















lol

jimbob007
08-14-2009, 07:30 AM
Some of thsoe women are real hot, those types of women are not really obese at all.



Shows like "More to Love" don't help either:

http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_more_to_love.jpg

Telling people this is "normal" and "ok" and "beautiful."

NO IT'S NOT YOU LAZY FAT ****S!

/rage

Steak_n_Taters
08-14-2009, 07:44 AM
Some of thsoe women are real hot, those types of women are not really obese at all.

They are all easily over-weight, that much is obvious, and they are encouraging women that are overweight to stay that way. All of them could stand to lose 50 lbs. Right now they are on the path to type II diabetes.

And none of them are hot. I have a hard time being attracted to women who can't control themselves around food.

ETA: And the medical definition of obese is being more than 20% over their ideal weight, and I am pretty sure most, if not all, of them are.

Granted they aren't the blimps you see fairly often, but they are a far cry from being in good shape.

Frozen_By_You
08-14-2009, 07:45 AM
if you are over 35% bodyfat and can't prove it's because of a real medical condition (hypothyroid or something), you get no coverage until you get down to a healthier weight.

Also, btw, I'm hypothyroid, and it's easy to control and easy to control my weight.

Oh man, this.

Like i said in an another post, if the average american ate junk food only once a month, cut down their portion size, reduced meat consumption, raised vegetables/fruits portions, drank a gallon water a day and did very basic physical exercise, you guys would be FILTHY rich.

If that happened, the pharmaceutical companies would panic hardcore. Can you imagine? People getting better! What a disaster for people who get money out of sick people :(

YUL
08-14-2009, 08:15 AM
So around the time the Low Fat revolution took off, americans got fatter.

who would have thought?

yup, back when fat was "bad" and stuff like sugar and fibre were relative unknowns

Steak_n_Taters
08-14-2009, 08:20 AM
yup, back when fat was "bad" and stuff like sugar and fibre were relative unknowns

Yeah my parents (who are both in good shape for their age) have told me about how in the late 70s and 80s most diets were all about no fat, but all the carbs you can eat. So people would be eating toast for breakfast, pasta for lunch, and baked potatoes for dinner, with practically no protein and fat. hellooooo insulin lol

YUL
08-14-2009, 08:29 AM
Yeah my parents (who are both in good shape for their age) have told me about how in the late 70s and 80s most diets were all about no fat, but all the carbs you can eat. So people would be eating toast for breakfast, pasta for lunch, and baked potatoes for dinner, with practically no protein and fat. hellooooo insulin lol

yup. the whole "fat" makes you fat fad.

I mean, there is some truth to that since eating too much animal fat is bad for your health.

I think it's more important to realize that stuff cortisol, hormones and glicemic indexes play a large role, especially when matched with the absences of exercise.

I remember the Henry Rollins diet:

-Eat less
-Eat better
-Move your body

OatsandSteak
08-14-2009, 08:40 AM
This thread makes me want to go for a walk.

bah01001
08-14-2009, 08:44 AM
What's going to happen 25 years from now??

You ever see the Movie Wall-E?

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 02:24 PM
They are all easily over-weight, that much is obvious, and they are encouraging women that are overweight to stay that way. All of them could stand to lose 50 lbs. Right now they are on the path to type II diabetes.

And none of them are hot.

First brunette in the front row going from left to right. At least I think so, lol.

Halfway
08-14-2009, 02:42 PM
Some of thsoe women are real hot, those types of women are not really obese at all.

Strong 20" 'ceps on the chick in the middle.

They are all fatties, not one is attractive. For my shame I watched the first episode and had to listen to 'omg she has the same dress as me, do I look that bad in it?' several times.

Gabriel Anton
08-14-2009, 02:45 PM
I think a fat population is great.

Makes those of us who train and are in shape look better in comparison

Fernando12
08-14-2009, 03:21 PM
Some of thsoe women are real hot, those types of women are not really obese at all.

LOL!

I hope you aren't saying this after watching the show....

AniMaLizTik
08-14-2009, 03:22 PM
The rise and progression of the charts HAVE to correlate to SOMETHING directly. I'm not saying that one single factor is the cause, but surely SOMETHING has to mirror the trends posted.

I'm guessing the technology revolution. more technology = less work. The rual states were the last to become obese, due to a working culture like farming and cattle, etc...

Combine this with cheap, processed garbage called food and we have our epidemic

cable tv viewers chart:

http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2006/images/narrative%20charts/cable/cable%20A.JPG

jimbob007
08-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Thankfully we do not get it over here.



LOL!

I hope you aren't saying this after watching the show....

ElMariachi
08-14-2009, 05:34 PM
Shows like "More to Love" don't help either:

http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_more_to_love.jpg

Telling people this is "normal" and "ok" and "beautiful."

NO IT'S NOT YOU LAZY FAT ****S!

/rage

IMO, if socialized healthcare goes through, if you are over 35% bodyfat and can't prove it's because of a real medical condition (hypothyroid or something), you get no coverage until you get down to a healthier weight.

Also, btw, I'm hypothyroid, and it's easy to control and easy to control my weight.



My girlfriend was watching that show and I sat and watched it for about 5 minutes just for the lulz. This is the final sign of the impending apocalypse, a show about a fat guy trying to find fat women, and the show itself trying to convince America that this is what "average women" look like.

I loved the "NO GUY WILL EVER LOVE ME FOR WHO I AM" type melodrama......WELL damn, put down the forth and go and take a walk around the block, geez.


Or the best excuse I've heard yet. "I'm like this because that way I can be sure a guy loves me for who I am and not what I look like." WTF?

ElMariachi
08-14-2009, 05:38 PM
yup, back when fat was "bad" and stuff like sugar and fibre were relative unknowns



Not true at all. However those folks were ostracized and shunned, treated like pariah and even called "hateful" because they were deliberately trying to sabotage people and make heart disease worse. Lots of folks got their funding cut, or even got black-listed for going against the established view, regardless of the evidence that they presented. Even in the early 90s when a Harvard medical school professor was one of the first to speak out against the dangers of trans-fats, he GOT slammed by the "saturated fats are worse than anything on earth" crowd.


Well heart disease got worse, so did diabetes and a host of other inflammation related conditions. This is what happens when you take junk science and politicize it as what happened in the late 60s/early 70s with the wacked out "low-fat" fad.

DangerDan
08-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Fuk fat people.


That is all.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 06:32 PM
The rise and progression of the charts HAVE to correlate to SOMETHING directly. I'm not saying that one single factor is the cause, but surely SOMETHING has to mirror the trends posted.

I'm guessing the technology revolution. more technology = less work. The rual states were the last to become obese, due to a working culture like farming and cattle, etc...

Combine this with cheap, processed garbage called food and we have our epidemic

cable tv viewers chart:

http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2006/images/narrative%20charts/cable/cable%20A.JPG

A strong correlation was found to the use of high fructose corn syrup(was on the news in 2006 or 2007), but obviously that isn't the only thing causing it. Another is probably just an increased amount of food/calories in general.

As for cable charts, that would need to be adjusted in terms of % of the population and you'd need to look at the average number of hours watched and the mode (how many hours MOST people watch)

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 06:36 PM
Not true at all. However those folks were ostracized and shunned, treated like pariah and even called "hateful" because they were deliberately trying to sabotage people and make heart disease worse. Lots of folks got their funding cut, or even got black-listed for going against the established view, regardless of the evidence that they presented. Even in the early 90s when a Harvard medical school professor was one of the first to speak out against the dangers of trans-fats, he GOT slammed by the "saturated fats are worse than anything on earth" crowd.


Well heart disease got worse, so did diabetes and a host of other inflammation related conditions. This is what happens when you take junk science and politicize it as what happened in the late 60s/early 70s with the wacked out "low-fat" fad.

yeah one of my former roommates posted a study showing some tribe in Africa who ate lots of saturated fat but very little trans fat and showed they had little occurrence of heart disease (cus I mentioned saturated fat was considered bad for people that had a history of it, but that I heard some studies simply counted trans-fat as "saturated fat" and therefore some inconsistencies arose).

Enyap
08-14-2009, 08:11 PM
Why is Saudi Arabia so fat, they're the only red country besides the U.S.

SaviorSix
08-14-2009, 08:54 PM
More important than the food, and the lack of exercise - which are without a doubt fueling the fire - is the 'culture of convenience'.

Fat and non-fat alike, every whim is catered to. Nobody wants to work hard for anything at all. We want no effort to be made, and we want it NOW - Instant gratification. This applies to everything across the board -

"Just sit back, relax on the couch, and do your shopping online while we deliver our food products to your door."

or...if you decide to actually go to the store

"Here, take one of our motorized scooters for your shopping comfort!"

meanwhile back home on TV

"Diets don't work! Take our Ultra Eradi-Fatz product before each meal, and watch those pounds shed right off, without doing any work!"

I swear one time I saw a commercial for a sit-up assistance device. The announcer's opening line was "Tired of straining to get your head off the floor when doing sit-ups?"

WHAT ..... THAT'S THE ****ING SIT-UP!

mooseknuckles
08-14-2009, 10:10 PM
They are underestimating Alaska if anything. I was just thinking today how almost the entire population is either fat, ugly or old... with the majority being all of the above, it seems. :(

I was in heaven after moving from Alaska to Texas. The girls up there just don't take care of themselves. There are plenty of fatties here too, but many more tanned hotties.

Weightaholic
08-14-2009, 10:57 PM
or...if you decide to actually go to the store

"Here, take one of our motorized scooters for your shopping comfort!"


This is the problem in a nutshell.

"Here, you fat fcuk. Here's a cart so you don't even have to walk through the shop!"

Screw that. They should be made to jog through the shop, and poked with cattle prods when they slow down.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 11:03 PM
More important than the food, and the lack of exercise - which are without a doubt fueling the fire - is the 'culture of convenience'.

Fat and non-fat alike, every whim is catered to. Nobody wants to work hard for anything at all. We want no effort to be made, and we want it NOW - Instant gratification. This applies to everything across the board -

"Just sit back, relax on the couch, and do your shopping online while we deliver our food products to your door."

or...if you decide to actually go to the store

"Here, take one of our motorized scooters for your shopping comfort!"

meanwhile back home on TV

"Diets don't work! Take our Ultra Eradi-Fatz product before each meal, and watch those pounds shed right off, without doing any work!"

I swear one time I saw a commercial for a sit-up assistance device. The announcer's opening line was "Tired of straining to get your head off the floor when doing sit-ups?"

WHAT ..... THAT'S THE ****ING SIT-UP!

In other words, the standard of living is improving and people are choosing to be fat.

ElMariachi
08-14-2009, 11:04 PM
yeah one of my former roommates posted a study showing some tribe in Africa who ate lots of saturated fat but very little trans fat and showed they had little occurrence of heart disease (cus I mentioned saturated fat was considered bad for people that had a history of it, but that I heard some studies simply counted trans-fat as "saturated fat" and therefore some inconsistencies arose).



That is correct. Pre 90s, trans-fats and saturated fats were never really differentiated in studies. It could very well be that a lot of the studies that were used to support the "danger of fats" were more predicated on the impact of trans-fats which outside of natural sources are absolute poisons, as compared to saturated fats which are necessary in moderation.

ElMariachi
08-14-2009, 11:10 PM
In other words, the standard of living is improving and people are choosing to be fat.



More or less. The key that people need to understand is that humans were never meant to simply sit around and eat all day. Our ancestor's were extremely active and often bordering on starvation as they had to struggle to get their food. When they had food, biologically speaking, they were set up to eat and eat and store the excess as fat for when the inevitable lean times would come where food was not so easy to come by.

In this modern age of grocery stores and fast food restaurants on every corner, in our society, there really aren't "lean times" as what our ancestors experienced a long time ago. We're still setup to stuff ourselves with food as we haven't evolved to compensate for this modern era, but due to modern construct, the limiting factor in weight-gain, namely access to the food supply, is not as random as it once was.

stealth_swimmer
08-14-2009, 11:26 PM
More or less. The key that people need to understand is that humans were never meant to simply sit around and eat all day. .

Most people DO know that. They KNOW what they do is bad for them, yet they choose to do it anyways. I dont' think anything should be done to force those people to change. For the few that honestly don't know, we can educate them. However, as it turns out MOST (not all) people DO indeed know the basics of how to stay in decent shape yet they don't do that stuff anyways. They know that too many calories are bad for you....they know that an apple is probably better for you than a doughnut but they grab the doughnut anyways.

heavytwenty
08-15-2009, 12:53 AM
Yeah my parents (who are both in good shape for their age) have told me about how in the late 70s and 80s most diets were all about no fat, but all the carbs you can eat. So people would be eating toast for breakfast, pasta for lunch, and baked potatoes for dinner, with practically no protein and fat. hellooooo insulin lol

Lol, pretty sure my mom still believed it during the 90s. Pissed me off when I discovered it was false.

I think a fat population is great.

Makes those of us who train and are in shape look better in comparison
True :).
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But anyways, during college I knew people who drink up to ten cans of sodas a day....

calories in a 12 oz coke can: 155
155x10=1550 calories per day just through sugar water WTF?

I think they calmed down on their soda intake, but still the average American probably drinks like two a day. Everytime I walk Sunday night through my neighborhood, I see a ton of empty soda boxes in the recycling bins.

Steak_n_Taters
08-15-2009, 07:06 AM
I really believe foods that are high in fat, sugar, and sodium have a chemically addictive affect on the brain.

I mean you can feel it when you start a strict cut diet (which I'm sure most here have... this is a bodybuilding forum right?). When you go from a dirty bulk in which you make sure you get all your proper macros but also throw down a double cheeseburger and fries relatively often - to eating steamed brown rice, grilled chicken breasts and broccoli all the time, cravings can be extremely intense, especially for the first week. Eventually they wear off though. That really makes me think we actually get addicted to the food. Then when average people do try to diet they don't have the willpower to forgo their cravings and stick to their plan.

It's just like when people try to quit smoking. The will is strong the first couple of days, but after a while the cravings wear on you, until you give in, or "just have one" and then it's over.

andy52
08-15-2009, 07:27 AM
CO best state in the country. All the outdoor activities=less fatties. I live in DC now lots of fat people, when i lived in CO i went on runs just to go see things, so did every person i know.......just saying.

p.s. people in DC take taxi's to see the monuments because they are 1/2 mile apart (lincoln and the capital steps)

jmonty
08-15-2009, 10:29 AM
oh, wow, now it is hip to be fat. *facepalm*

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/fashion/13POTBELLY.html?_r=3&scp=1&sq=hip%20to%20be%20round&st=cse?no_interstitial

LunicaAshes
08-16-2009, 03:28 AM
CO best state in the country. All the outdoor activities=less fatties. I live in DC now lots of fat people, when i lived in CO i went on runs just to go see things, so did every person i know.......just saying.

p.s. people in DC take taxi's to see the monuments because they are 1/2 mile apart (lincoln and the capital steps)

AK is amazing for outdoor activities too, but we have SO MANY lazy fatties. It makes me sad - all the things in their own state they will never explore. We're surrounded by mountains that they could never even make it up.

sjr_1490
08-16-2009, 07:44 AM
This is the problem in a nutshell.

"Here, you fat fcuk. Here's a cart so you don't even have to walk through the shop!"

Screw that. They should be made to jog through the shop, and poked with cattle prods when they slow down.

I lol'ed :)


I really believe foods that are high in fat, sugar, and sodium have a chemically addictive affect on the brain.

I mean you can feel it when you start a strict cut diet (which I'm sure most here have... this is a bodybuilding forum right?). When you go from a dirty bulk in which you make sure you get all your proper macros but also throw down a double cheeseburger and fries relatively often - to eating steamed brown rice, grilled chicken breasts and broccoli all the time, cravings can be extremely intense, especially for the first week. Eventually they wear off though. That really makes me think we actually get addicted to the food. Then when average people do try to diet they don't have the willpower to forgo their cravings and stick to their plan.

It's just like when people try to quit smoking. The will is strong the first couple of days, but after a while the cravings wear on you, until you give in, or "just have one" and then it's over.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124084009832659309.html

Here's an article from the Wall Street Journal about what you're talking about. Turns out overeating and eating shet in general might be more pyschological than physical.

belairdfence99
08-16-2009, 07:54 AM
It took them long enough to get some info for Wyoming.

jmonty
08-16-2009, 07:55 AM
Why is Saudi Arabia so fat, they're the only red country besides the U.S.

i think it is partly because of arab culture where larger men are respected more. but maybe they just all have alot of money and are pretty sedentary.

OatsandSteak
08-16-2009, 10:12 AM
I really believe foods that are high in fat, sugar, and sodium have a chemically addictive affect on the brain.

I mean you can feel it when you start a strict cut diet (which I'm sure most here have... this is a bodybuilding forum right?). When you go from a dirty bulk in which you make sure you get all your proper macros but also throw down a double cheeseburger and fries relatively often - to eating steamed brown rice, grilled chicken breasts and broccoli all the time, cravings can be extremely intense, especially for the first week. Eventually they wear off though. That really makes me think we actually get addicted to the food. Then when average people do try to diet they don't have the willpower to forgo their cravings and stick to their plan.

It's just like when people try to quit smoking. The will is strong the first couple of days, but after a while the cravings wear on you, until you give in, or "just have one" and then it's over.

The best way to cut those sugar cravings is to have a diet Pepsi, mmm mmm good.

I guarantee everyone here at some point has told someone they know, who wants to lose weight, work out or eat better, to use protein powder as a meal replacement once or twice a day, especially after a workout. The responses are always classics, "I don't want to get huge", "they will make me gain weight!", "if I use protein powder and don't work out it will turn to fat!".

I actually here these all the time, it's almost cliche'.

jimbob007
08-16-2009, 12:26 PM
Before

http://join.bustykerrymarie.com/site.thumbs/BustyKerryMarie.com.join_babe.jpg

After

http://www.bustyhills.com/busty/k/kerry-marie-busty/pics/07.jpg

FIVE OAKES
08-17-2009, 12:06 AM
I don't think the "need" for a car in the US compared to Europe is a result of public transportion directly so much as it that the US is larger than Europe.

Not really. It doesn't matter how big a country is. What matters is how the country's cities/towns are organized.

Here, they still have a more traditional, "village" mindset. Every town has just about everything you "need", (grocery stores, butchers, bakeries, etc..) Driving 30 minutes to buy groceries is almost unheard of.

For instance - I have 3 supermarkets in the small town where I live, plus several bakeries and a couple of butchers. I could walk to any of them if I wanted to. Two of the supermarkets are within 10 minutes of my house by foot. They're all within a small area, competing directly with one another....

America was once similar - you would see more small local supermarkets and "mom and pop" stores, but the larger chain stores put them all out of business. So now, instead of having smaller stores that cater to smaller areas....we have Super Wal-marts that serve huge areas.

We put all of our houses in sub-divisions that are 15, 20 or 30 minutes away from our "shopping areas" and strip malls. And we build our roads so that it's too dangerous to ride a bike on them.


If you got a car in Europe you can drive to another country within the day and get back. And if each individual country is smaller, then of course they're gonna use bikes more often.


True, but the point is that you wouldn't need the car to get to those other countries - or to most cities within Germany. I can walk to a bus stop 1 block away from my house, take that bus to a local train station in 15 minutes, catch another train to the nearest "main" train station in about 10 minutes, then take a train from there to most major cities in Europe....or to the closest international airport. I could get from my house to Paris in about 6 hours total without a car, assuming I timed all the buses/trains correctly. By car, it would take me about 5.5 hours.

I could get from my house all the way to the east coast of America in under 15 hours, and I wouldn't need a car or a taxi until I landed in America.

JtotheIzzo
10-19-2010, 10:34 AM
bump.

Is there a map for 2009 and 2010 obesity rates by state?

momofo
10-19-2010, 10:36 AM
apparently alot of people wonder that. i live there now and i'm just astounded by the number extent of the fitness trails in town as well as all the outdoor activities that are available. i mean, i can get on a bicycle and ride for hours in any direction. not that i do that too often.. but i could! :D

I was in CO in February to visit the company's home office. It seemed as if everywhere I looked there was a gym, training studio, or fitness equipment seller. Fitness is definitely big out there -- I didn't even see that much density in fitness businesses when I visited LA.

hooked4life
10-19-2010, 10:38 AM
China is bad too. Nobody is fat in the countryside, driving their numbers down.

But the cities....

When I first went in 2003 there was like no fatties in the city, last time in 2008 Beijing was full of porkers.

jmonty
10-19-2010, 10:59 AM
China is bad too. Nobody is fat in the countryside, driving their numbers down.

But the cities....

When I first went in 2003 there was like no fatties in the city, last time in 2008 Beijing was full of porkers.

but.. but.. that doesn't fit the stereotype of "fat americans" :p

crazy how so people around the world are obese, and then there are so many that are malnourished.

hooked4life
10-19-2010, 11:12 AM
but.. but.. that doesn't fit the stereotype of "fat americans" :p

crazy how so people around the world are obese, and then there are so many that are malnourished.

it is indeed, very weird.

thorton
10-19-2010, 11:22 AM
Obesity correlates with the rise in popularity of MTV and subsequent rise in a heavy Television/internet entertainment driven populace.

Not proving causation, just interesting. (MTV debut in 1981)

GeorgeCarlinJr
10-19-2010, 11:45 AM
Not too many fatties along the coast, er at least I don't notice any at the beach I think the reason why is pretty obvious tho


brb your fat ass is eating up your swimsuit

LostMatt
10-19-2010, 01:08 PM
The obesity problems we face today have been caused by switching from a producing economy, to a service based economy. People are no longer working in factories, standing up all day and moving around. We are all sitting at a cubical or desk, or driving an 18 wheeler for hours on end everyday. The economic implications of this are HUGE. Here is why.

In a nutshell the American family has been split apart by the service economy that we are now in. A service based economy provides lower wages which causes both you and your partner/husband/wife to work a full time job. No more stay at home mom. No stay at home mom = no home cooking which = obesity


A more complex analysis would require pulling information on the typical American diet. The grocery stores we have today did not exist 30 years ago. Most Americans still had to go to the LOCAL butcher, bakery, and the produce stands to get real FOOD.

Today, walk down the aisles of your grocery store and look what fills them. Carbs and bread in all different forms. Cereals, cookies, crackers chips and snacks. Everything else is processed, practically cardboard with sugar or salt added to it.

Bake a batch of cookies from scratch and it will have a third of the amount of sugar in any cookie you can buy off the shelf.

Now ask yourself why are these bad products attractive? Because they are convenient, and provide instant gratification.

JtotheIzzo
10-19-2010, 01:14 PM
The study, released this week in the journal Obesity, suggests that by the year 2030, nearly every American will be overweight or obese.

Currently, figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put the prevalence of overweight and obesity in adults at about 66 percent. But lead study author Dr. Youfa Wang of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore says that if current overweight and obesity trends continue, 86 percent of Americans could be overweight or obese by the year 2030.

Even more troubling, the authors note, "By 2048, all American adults would become overweight or obese."


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Fitness/story?id=5499878&page=1

sweepone
10-19-2010, 01:21 PM
.

In a nutshell the American family has been split apart by the service economy that we are now in. A service based economy provides lower wages which causes both you and your partner/husband/wife to work a full time job. No more stay at home mom. No stay at home mom = no home cooking which = obesity


A more complex analysis would require pulling information on the typical American diet. The grocery stores we have today did not exist 30 years ago. Most Americans still had to go to the LOCAL butcher, bakery, and the produce stands to get real FOOD.

.

The town I live in and grew up is basically the same population as in the 1970's-approx 5000 people. I remember when we had a pizza joint, a Burger Chef and that's it-maybe a few more I can't remember. Today there is probably 25-30 fast food joints.
Yes, Mom's stayed home and had a healthy dinner waiting. Today it Boston Market picked up on the way home or processed TV dinners.

And the grocery store was 7-10 aisles while the new store has maybe 18-20 aisles.

jmonty
10-19-2010, 02:11 PM
bump.

Is there a map for 2009 and 2010 obesity rates by state?

looks like 2009 data came out, and a few states improved while a few others got worse.

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/animated_map_slides/map25.jpg

Al Swearengen
10-19-2010, 02:41 PM
inb4 "it's the obesogens"!!!!

AniMaLizTik
10-19-2010, 03:25 PM
why the hell was this moved to the R/P? because we are actually having a grown up discussion?

Last time i checked Obesity was not a religion or a political party. move it back please. more traffic = more views.

jmonty
10-19-2010, 03:34 PM
why the hell was this moved to the R/P? because we are actually having a grown up discussion?

Last time i checked Obesity was not a religion or a political party. move it back please. more traffic = more views.

i put it here in the first place because the misc is [more] full of retards

jmonty
10-19-2010, 03:36 PM
politics--should there be more government oversight as a a result.

also, the data is from a government organization :)

AniMaLizTik
10-19-2010, 04:32 PM
the retards go away after a page or two...nice stretch on the "government" crap. :D

2 D
10-19-2010, 04:49 PM
So much failure in such a short period of time.

In general all humans are getting slightly bigger over time (taller and wider/thicker) however this is NOT evolution as it is clearly so dramatic and over such a short time frame.

AniMaLizTik
10-19-2010, 04:53 PM
So much failure in such a short period of time.

In general all humans are getting slightly bigger over time (taller and wider/thicker) however this is NOT evolution as it is clearly so dramatic and over such a short time frame.

All species grow in direct correlation with food supply/space, but this takes thousands of years.

If you were to plop a group of large viking decended humans on an island with just enough food to survive/reproduce, they would all be the size of asians over a long period of time.

LankedOut
10-19-2010, 05:00 PM
but.. but.. that doesn't fit the stereotype of "fat americans" :p

crazy how so people around the world are obese, and then there are so many that are malnourished.

Ironically though, many obese people are malnourished too, although they happen to be eating buckets of food, however it's so processed and completely void of many nutrients which the body needs, but it's just not getting any.

HELIX35
10-19-2010, 05:23 PM
The real culprit is a lack of exercise. People don't do physically engaging leisure as much. Computers are taking over.

Yep, the advance of technology is definitely a larger factor


When I was a kid, we had 3 channels with no shows that a kid would care about, no internet, and no video games.

I went outside to play and was active because there was literally no other option


Now kids have 300 channels, the internet is in every house, and they all have playstations and Xbox. If I had all that when I was little I probably would have turned into a fatty too

bigkarl
10-19-2010, 05:32 PM
We need to find something that will cure food addiction other than pharmaceutical-grade speed and gastric bypass(even though a lot of the time people pop their staples/slip their bands because the desire to eat is so strong). Second, and most importantly, we need to somehow convince more people to get off of their asses. But I don't really think that you can fix lazy......

jmonty
02-04-2011, 04:06 AM
the obesity problem is not just american

"Worldwide Obesity Doubled Over Past Three Decades"

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/global-obesity-rates-doubled-1980/story?id=12833461

jimbob007
02-04-2011, 04:14 AM
Over here the NHS has had to spend huge amounts redesigning ambulances to cater for people weighing up to 50 stone.

To be honest people who do weight 40-50 stone really do not deserve medical help. Because they are not doing anything to help themselves.


Some patients are getting so fat that ambulance bosses are having to revamp their fleets to cope, the BBC has learned.

Every service in the UK has started buying specialist equipment, data from freedom of information requests show.

This includes wider stretchers, more lifting gear and reinforcing existing vehicles.

Many have also bought specialist "bariatric" ambulances - costing up to 90,000 each - to ferry the most obese.

These are designed so that double-width trolley stretchers for patients up to 50 stone (318kg) can be accommodated. They also tend to include hoists and inflatable lifting cushions.

But the rising rates of obese and overweight patients mean even standard ambulances are having to be stocked with specialist equipment.

While these vehicles cannot take the full-range of kit that a bariatric ambulance can, they can often carry heavy-duty wheelchairs and stretchers as well as the lifting cushions on newer models.

What ambulances bosses are buying

Wider stretcher

* Bariatric ambulances - Specially-designed vehicle crash-tested to take heavier loads and equipped with full-range of obesity equipment. Cost: 60,000 to 90,000.
* Wider stretchers - Different makes used. Most popular sits on trolley and extends to twice the normal width. Can take patients up to 50 stone (318kg) compared to 30 stone (191kg) normally. Also used in standard ambulances but cannot be extended to full width. Cost: 7,000 to 10,000.
* Heavy-duty adjustable stretcher - No wider than standard, but able to take heavier patients and has lifting mechanism so it can be moved up and down to make it easier to get large patients on and off. Cost: 7,000.
* Lifting cushions - Inflatable cushion which can be used to get people off floor. Cost: 2,500.
* Heavy-duty wheelchairs - Wider and stronger than standard. Cost: 400-plus.
* Hoists - Tend to be fitted in bariatric ambulances. Used to lift obese on to stretchers. Can take weights of over 40 stone (254kg). Cost: 4,500.
* Stronger tail-lifts - Capable of taking weights up to 75 stone (476kg). Cost: 800.

Prices vary depending on how many and what make a trust orders.

Cushions tend to cost about 2,500 and stretchers anywhere between 7,000 to 10,000, while reinforcing an ambulance tail-lift can set a trust back 800 per vehicle.

One ambulance trust - South Central - has spent more than 1m in the last three years to upgrade nearly two thirds of its 180-strong fleet.

West Midlands is another area which has started upgrading its fleet. It has also bought four specialist bariatric ambulances at a combined cost of more than 300,000.

Nigel Wells, an operations manager at the trust said: "It is all about safety for our patients and safety for our crews. We have got a greater number of patients who are larger in size.

"A few years ago - probably only 10 years ago - your average patient was 12 to 13 stone, now that's probably 17 to 18 stone. And we quite regularly see patients around 30 stone in weight and even bigger than that."

Jo Webber, director of the Ambulance Service Network, agreed ambulance bosses had been left with no option.

"The fact is patients are getting larger and larger and ambulances need to be able to respond immediately to what could be life-threatening situations.

"Every service is having to invest money in this. It shows that some of the lifestyle changes we are seeing have a range of costs. It is not just about treating them, but the infrastructure costs as well."

The data obtained by the BBC showed the speed and pace of the approaches vary from place to place.

However, every ambulance trust in England as well as the services in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland confirmed changes were being made.

For example, the West Midlands, Yorkshire, the North West and Wales already have pools of bariatric ambulances and are well on the way to upgrading the rest of their fleet.

Eileen Forde: "At 34 stone a standard ambulance trolley isn't wide enough"

Meanwhile, in London ambulances bosses have been relying on a private service for which they were paying a monthly fee of 5,000 until recently.

But they have now bought two bariatric ambulances and a third is on its way. The rest of the fleet will also be getting specialist equipment in the coming years.

Jonathan Fox, of the Association of Professional Ambulance Personnel, said: "It is becoming increasingly frequent that the size of patients causes problems moving them and that in turn increases the risk of injury to staff. That is why we need this equipment. We are not just talking about those that are really heavy, even patients who are 16, 17 stone can pose difficulties."

Dr Frank Atherton, president of the Association of Directors of Public Health, added: "It is not surprising the NHS is responding this way. It is unfortunate and what we need to do is get better at trying to prevent obesity in the first place."