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Melkor
07-25-2009, 11:06 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090726/ap_on_go_ot/us_health_care_overhaul_silver_lining


WASHINGTON ? A strong force, perhaps as powerful in Congress as President Barack Obama, is keeping the drive for health care going even as lawmakers seem hopelessly at odds.

Lobbyists.

The drug industry, the American Medical Association, hospital groups and the insurance lobby are all saying Congress must make major changes this year. Television ads paid for by drug companies and insurers continued to emphasize the benefits of a health care overhaul - not the groups' objections to some of the proposals.

If the health industry and pharmaceuticals are lobbying FOR a bill that is supposed to cut spending on health care and reduce all these costs for these services...

doesn't that make you wonder why?

SGMD1
07-25-2009, 11:37 PM
If the health industry and pharmaceuticals are lobbying FOR a bill that is supposed to cut spending on health care and reduce all these costs for these services...

doesn't that make you wonder why?

I guess it means that the typical conservative argument against it (that it will drive out private insurance from the market) is wrong.

leafs43
07-26-2009, 12:42 AM
You don't think these groups with a money pipeline to the IRS in the balance has any effect on their stance?

Resonator
07-26-2009, 01:38 AM
I guess it means that the typical conservative argument against it (that it will drive out private insurance from the market) is wrong.

These are the for-profit groups that you link to sky-rocketing costs of healthcare, and they're in support of this reform. Their main goal is to increase profit. Why would they support this if it resulted in decreased profits for them? These corporate dickheads get an edge out of more regulation, not deregulation.

SGMD1
07-26-2009, 03:51 AM
These are the for-profit groups that you link to sky-rocketing costs of healthcare, and they're in support of this reform. Their main goal is to increase profit. Why would they support this if it resulted in decreased profits for them? These corporate dickheads get an edge out of more regulation, not deregulation.

how?

fballer12
07-26-2009, 05:04 AM
I guess it means that the typical conservative argument against it (that it will drive out private insurance from the market) is wrong.


Or it means that they are a part of something far bigger than healthcare..

texlonghornz2
07-26-2009, 06:01 AM
how?

An increase in regulation could lead to increased barriers to entry into a market. Which means they are protected by increased legislation

Makes you think why they are so for this regulation, means its packed with subsidies or something beneficial to them

dizi24
07-26-2009, 06:05 AM
An increase in regulation could lead to increased barriers to entry into a market. Which means they are protected by increased legislation


Correct. The AMA has already been limiting the number of doctors in this country for decades and artificially lowering the supply of doctors.

Resonator
07-26-2009, 04:09 PM
how?

With laws that make it harder for other companies to enter the market and compete against them, as well as subsidies. Monopolies are created through regulation, not deregulation. They use the government to give themselves an unfair advantage over others and create a situation where they can increase costs with no one else to compete and lower prices.