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KingCanuck
07-24-2009, 08:10 PM
In your opinion......

PatrickBateman1
07-24-2009, 08:11 PM
Has 4 HR in one game ever happened?

KingCanuck
07-24-2009, 08:14 PM
Has 4 HR in one game ever happened?

Yes, plenty of times.

Carlos Delgado did it as a Blue Jay against the Rays six or five years ago.

Uncontested
07-24-2009, 08:28 PM
Perfect game is much harder, and much more impressive

beer n brats
07-24-2009, 08:28 PM
perfect game easily. no other accomplishment (single game) id rather have (hr's in a game, hitting for the cycle, turning a triple play etc..)

perfect game all the way.

KingCanuck
07-24-2009, 08:29 PM
Perfect game is much harder, and much more impressive

If it is much harder, than how come 4 HRs in one game has been done 15 times, while pitching a perfect game has been done 18 times?

kethnaab
07-24-2009, 09:22 PM
Perfect game definitely

you have to do everything right 27 times in a game.

the reason 4 HRs has been done less is pretty easy. If your ass hits 3 HRs against me in 3 ABs, I damn sure not pitching to you the 4th time

consider 4 ABs/game * 162 games = 648 ABs. How often do HR hitters get 648 ABs in a season?

NYY
07-24-2009, 09:29 PM
Perfect game definitely

you have to do everything right 27 times in a game.

the reason 4 HRs has been done less is pretty easy. If your ass hits 3 HRs against me in 3 ABs, I damn sure not pitching to you the 4th time

consider 4 ABs/game * 162 games = 648 ABs. How often do HR hitters get 648 ABs in a season?

This, even though 4 HR games have happened fewer times. So much **** needs to go right for a perfect game to occur. You need an great effort from the whole team for a perfect game to happen.

Uncontested
07-24-2009, 09:31 PM
not just that... even if the umps make a single bad call can ruin a perfect game

21Classic
07-24-2009, 09:35 PM
EASILY a perfect game



you have to rely on every guy on the team to help enure a perfect game, ask Wise.




4 HR is cool, but if you can swing it, anyone can hit a HR. just getting 4 is impressive.


to match a perfect game, youd have to hit like 6 grand slams in one game.

PatrickBateman1
07-24-2009, 09:37 PM
From a purely statistical standpoint, 4 HR's in one game is much more difficult to do...


There are 9 guys every game on each team that have a shot to hit 4 HR's. There's only one pitcher on each team that has a shot to throw a perfect game.

Yet, the number of perfect games thrown is pretty similar to the number of guys who have hit 4 HR's in a game.


This at least proves that hitting 4 HR's is MUCH more rare on a player by player basis. Obviously there are some variables in there, but the odds of a player hitting 4 HR's in one game is about 1/9th of the odds of a pitcher throwing a perfect game.

mikay456
07-24-2009, 09:42 PM
If it is much harder, than how come 4 HRs in one game has been done 15 times, while pitching a perfect game has been done 18 times?

It is rarer but that doesn't mean it is harder

Exist 2 Inspire
07-24-2009, 09:54 PM
perfect game

why so ez?
07-24-2009, 09:55 PM
a pitcher hitting 4 home runs in a game while throwing a perfect game is the most impressive feat in my opinion.

bmy-
07-24-2009, 10:01 PM
Perfect game is a team effort. 4 homeruns virtually guarantees a win.. both equally impressive.

bbacn123
07-24-2009, 10:39 PM
unassisted triple play....






















































































































http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/05/24/sports/24mets650.jpg

supersexystud
07-25-2009, 12:11 AM
If it is much harder, than how come 4 HRs in one game has been done 15 times, while pitching a perfect game has been done 18 times?

Guy hits 2 or 3 hr in a game... he is gonna get walked or pitched around.... come on canuck, you are better than this.

Gabriel Anton
07-25-2009, 04:17 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_hitters_with_four_ho me_runs_in_one_game - 4 HRs has been done 15 times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_game -

4 HRs has been done 13 times in the Modern Era (15 total)
Perfect game has been done 16 times in the Modern Era (18 total)

So they are statistically about the same in terms of rarity.

I suppose I would have to go with the Perfect Game. The hitter has to have 4 great at bats/swings. The Pitcher needs to get 27 consecutive outs without an error/hit/walk, etc.

But both are great feats.

NYY
07-25-2009, 07:35 AM
From a purely statistical standpoint, 4 HR's in one game is much more difficult to do...


There are 9 guys every game on each team that have a shot to hit 4 HR's. There's only one pitcher on each team that has a shot to throw a perfect game.

Yet, the number of perfect games thrown is pretty similar to the number of guys who have hit 4 HR's in a game.


This at least proves that hitting 4 HR's is MUCH more rare on a player by player basis. Obviously there are some variables in there, but the odds of a player hitting 4 HR's in one game is about 1/9th of the odds of a pitcher throwing a perfect game.

Like others have said what makes 4HR games slightly rarer is the fact that guys with 3 HRs in a game are often Int Walked before they could get a chance to hit a 4th. But you did from a statistical point though.

GetItBack
07-25-2009, 08:01 AM
In your opinion......
Four homers is only 4 or 5 maximum 6 "at bats".
Perfect game is 27 "at bats" (so to speak) for the pitcher.

Much more difficult.

Huse
07-25-2009, 08:11 AM
IMO 4 HRs....

89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 10:38 AM
Has 4 HR in one game ever happened?

15 times to be exact.

There have been 18 perfect games, and 15 4-HR games.

Reggie Jackson did it in the World Series, on the first pitch he saw from 4 different pitchers. Crazy.

dontcare
07-25-2009, 10:51 AM
15 times to be exact.

There have been 18 perfect games, and 15 4-HR games.

Reggie Jackson did it in the World Series, on the first pitch he saw from 4 different pitchers. Crazy.

3 homeruns on 3 pitches, not 4

89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 10:52 AM
3 homeruns on 3 pitches, not 4

Really? Michael Kay lied then. Or maybe I was thinking of a different game.

Thanks for looking out.

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 10:53 AM
From a purely statistical standpoint, 4 HR's in one game is much more difficult to do...


There are 9 guys every game on each team that have a shot to hit 4 HR's. There's only one pitcher on each team that has a shot to throw a perfect game.

Yet, the number of perfect games thrown is pretty similar to the number of guys who have hit 4 HR's in a game.


This at least proves that hitting 4 HR's is MUCH more rare on a player by player basis. Obviously there are some variables in there, but the odds of a player hitting 4 HR's in one game is about 1/9th of the odds of a pitcher throwing a perfect game.

This /thread. The fact that you'll be getting pitched around after the 2nd/3rd home runs makes it that much more impressive.

dontcare
07-25-2009, 10:56 AM
Really? Michael Kay lied then. Or maybe I was thinking of a different game.

Thanks for looking out.

He walked his first at bat. Impressive feat none the less.

89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 11:03 AM
I agree with Patrick.

9 Guys have a chance to hit 4 HRs every game (more or less), and it's only been done 15 times.

tsunami332
07-25-2009, 11:26 AM
i remember maybe last week 1 guy in the white sox, pitched a perfect game, i think he was latino is all i can remember.

get out of this thread

HollywoodBody
07-25-2009, 12:50 PM
definitely perfect game. although the home run cycle is pretty badass lol (solo HR, 2 run shot, 3 run shot, grand slam).

But pitching a perfect game takes great concentration and patience for the pitcher. 1 moment of losing focus and it's all over cause you just gave up a walk or a single, or hit a batter, etc.

If a hitters loses focus for 1 pitch, he'll swing and miss and have 2 more chances.

1 bad pitch is all it takes to lose a perfect game. Of course, defensive plays can help you out, but still there's a lot of pressure on every pitch

bbstahl2323
07-25-2009, 01:12 PM
it is so much harder to have a perfect game. it has only happened like thirteen times

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 01:30 PM
it is so much harder to have a perfect game. it has only happened like thirteen times

Strong first post. Did you read a single post in the thread?

v1sion
07-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Perfect game is more impressive. Team effort. 4hr's individual effort.

But look at it this way

Team a the pitcher have a 100% chance of throwing a perfect game

Team b one of the hitters have a 100% chance of hitting 4 hr's

Who is more likely to win the game.
Apparently they don't play eachother

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Perfect game is more impressive. Team effort. 4hr's individual effort.

But look at it this way

Team a the pitcher have a 100% chance of throwing a perfect game

Team b one of the hitters have a 100% chance of hitting 4 hr's

Who is more likely to win the game.
Apparently they don't play eachother

Obviously team A, but that's not really a measure of what's more impressive. In that case a regular 9 inning shutout is more impressive than 4 home runs in a game, even though they happen all the time.

bbacn123
07-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Perfect game is more impressive. Team effort. 4hr's individual effort.

But look at it this way

Team a the pitcher have a 100% chance of throwing a perfect game

Team b one of the hitters have a 100% chance of hitting 4 hr's

Who is more likely to win the game.
Apparently they don't play eachother

What do you mean more likely to win it? Team A has to win it.

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 03:57 PM
What do you mean more likely to win it? Team A has to win it.

Not really. Could go to extras tied 0-0 and he comes out. Although I'm not sure if that goes in the record books as a perfect game any more.

bbacn123
07-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Not really. Could go to extras tied 0-0 and he comes out. Although I'm not sure if that goes in the record books as a perfect game any more.

No it's not a perfect game then like you said. he has to finish it. He wouldnt even get a no hitter either. Those have to be complete games first and foremost in order for them to count

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 04:01 PM
No it's not a perfect game then like you said. he has to finish it. He wouldnt even get a no hitter either. Those have to be complete games first and foremost in order for them to count

I'd hope he beats the offense with a garden hose.

89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 04:39 PM
it is so much harder to have a perfect game. it has only happened like thirteen times


How ****in long does it take to read 20 posts?



Perfect game is more impressive. Team effort. 4hr's individual effort.

But look at it this way

Team a the pitcher have a 100% chance of throwing a perfect game

Team b one of the hitters have a 100% chance of hitting 4 hr's

Who is more likely to win the game.
Apparently they don't play eachother


That makes no sense at all. One thing precludes another.

If you got tied to train tracks and shot in the head, that doesn't mean the gun does more damage than the train.

Fact is that in any given game there is a roughly 9 times greater chance of a player hitting 4HRs than a pitcher throwing a perfect game.

v1sion
07-25-2009, 04:53 PM
What I meant was, if u were the manager what would u want to happen your pitcher having a perfect game or your hitter batting in 4 hrs

Greg1983
07-25-2009, 05:18 PM
What I meant was, if u were the manager what would u want to happen your pitcher having a perfect game or your hitter batting in 4 hrs

So again, does that make a standard shutout more impressive than 4 HRs?

89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 05:18 PM
What I meant was, if u were the manager what would u want to happen your pitcher having a perfect game or your hitter batting in 4 hrs



That doesn't really have any relevance on how difficult a feat it is to accomplish.

panic91984
07-25-2009, 05:24 PM
unassisted triple play....

2 grand slams in one inning


http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/cardinalfan15/Cardinals%20PC/cards055.jpg

panic91984
07-25-2009, 05:25 PM
pic too small

ZBlacktt
07-25-2009, 07:59 PM
I'll go with Prefect game for sure. That's really hard to get done.


What about an in field homerun? Now that would be hard, lol.. :D


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89FoxBody
07-25-2009, 08:56 PM
2 grand slams in one inning



One of those crazy records that will probably never get broken.