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Halothane
06-06-2009, 11:26 AM
Found this on T-Nation. This guy is former SWCC. Read up, and Live it.

Myth: You know how much stress your body can take.
Mythbuster: Craig Weller

During Special Operations selection training, you're subjected to a brutal series of physical and mental tests. Depending on the program and the time of year, between 60 and 90 percent of candidates won't finish. Fun stuff.
But it taught me something important: Pain does not stop the body. There's nothing that hurts so badly that you can't keep going just a little longer.
Extreme and continuous stress teaches you to break daily life down into short, measurable goals. You make it to breakfast, and then you focus on making it to lunch. Sometimes your mind refuses to project beyond the immediate future: running one more step, swimming one more stroke, grinding out just one more push-up.
Everybody hits bottom at some point. You get to a place where you'd do anything to make the pain stop. If your mind breaks first and you stop running, or wave for a support boat on a swim, or raise your hand during a beat-down to say that you're done, you're officially "weeded out." You've quit. You're part of the majority, but you still feel like a loser.
Fortunately, there's a loophole: If your body breaks first, they won't hold it against you. Every guy in my squad had the same perverse thought at some point: "If I can just push myself hard enough to black out, I'll crash in the sand, take a nap, and wait for the medics to revive me. I'll get a nice little break, and then rejoin the pack."
So we ran harder. We pushed. But we hardly ever got those naps.

I remember being on a run, soaking wet and covered with sand. We'd just gotten back to our feet after calisthenics in the surf and a series of sprints up and down a sand dune. Then the instructors took off sprinting again.
I didn't think I could make it any farther, but I knew I could never live with myself if I stopped running. So I put my head down and sprinted as hard as I could through the soft sand. Pain surged through my body, and the only conscious thought I can remember was that the air I was gasping into my lungs had turned to fire.
I focused my eyes on the heels of the instructor. The pain was getting worse, but I kept going. I could hear another member of my class behind me, struggling to keep up with the pack while puking between strides.
Guys who went through the training with me had similar experiences. They'd hit bottom one day, and think they could finally reach their breaking point if only they pushed a little bit harder. But it never worked. The agony would only increase. But so would their capacity to keep going. Pain, in other words, never actually broke our bodies.

Which isn't to say we weren't incapacitated from time to time by hypothermia, hypoxic blackout, hypoglycemic shock, or some other things you find in the dictionary a few pages past "hell." But passing out was acceptable. Quitting wasn't.
I'm a civilian now, running a facility and training people. Every now and then, I hear someone say, "I can't."
Frankly, that's bull****. Next time you're tempted to say you "can't," remember that what you're really saying is, "I don't want to."

MattP343
06-06-2009, 01:51 PM
Great read! And to anyone who doesn't know SWCC stands for Special Warefare Combatant-craft crewman. And the way I understand it is they are the guys who train with SEALs through BUD/S but mainly focus on delivering and rescuing SEALs from missions afterwards.

OmahaBoy2003
06-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Very good read. Makes you think about your thressholds.

akm_202
06-06-2009, 04:20 PM
very good and interesting, will help bring an extra minute in my HIIT's :p

Halothane
08-27-2009, 06:36 PM
bump

broken_steel
08-27-2009, 08:48 PM
wow, fantastic.

and you know what? its true. sometimes, i dont think theres one left in me.. but my friend pushes me and i do it. I definetly have respect for guys like that. Pushing yourself to undescrible pain is something for the strong and strong only.

Rolo01
08-27-2009, 10:36 PM
Read this before. Pretty good stuff.

Zody
08-28-2009, 03:42 AM
Also, the rewards of knowing that you've pushed yourself further is just unexplainable. Lol is anyone addicted to pushing themselves further even though the mind tells you to quit?

I find this weird, but i'm kinda addicted to pushing myself to breaking point.

AlphaBrass01
08-28-2009, 04:32 AM
Awesome story - I love it!

Apothecurious
08-28-2009, 04:45 AM
Great article. I love that last line. "When I hear people say 'I can't' I'm really hearing them say 'I don't want to'".

be.BUILT
08-28-2009, 04:59 AM
Repped, that's incredible right there. And I really agree with you.
You can always push further than you think you can.


I don't mean to be a mood breaker but I wonder what you have to say about this:

You shouldn't ignore your body, it signals things like hunger,fatigue, pain for a reason. Ignoring your body is basically taking it past a point that's good for you.

Jargo
08-28-2009, 11:23 AM
Great read, truly motivational!

Although I am interesting in hearing the OPs response to this quote.


You shouldn't ignore your body, it signals things like hunger,fatigue, pain for a reason. Ignoring your body is basically taking it past a point that's good for you.

Keyboard
08-28-2009, 12:06 PM
You shouldn't ignore your body, it signals things like hunger,fatigue, pain for a reason. Ignoring your body is basically taking it past a point that's good for you.

There is only one way to get through the pipelines of these Special Operations units, you have to pass. I'm betting they could care less how tired you are, if you don't pass, you don't make it to the unit. Now things like pain, hunger and fatigue should be listened to if you're training for something, it can help prevent injury/sickness, but there are times when nothing else will matter except putting one foot in front of the other.

ChosenBrah
08-28-2009, 01:04 PM
Wow this makes me wanna go do 16 pullups on my iron gym pull up bar instead of the usual 15 BRB

Edit: I DID IT

3rdtwelve
08-28-2009, 03:08 PM
Great read! And to anyone who doesn't know SWCC stands for Special Warefare Combatant-craft crewman. And the way I understand it is they are the guys who train with SEALs through BUD/S but mainly focus on delivering and rescuing SEALs from missions afterwards.

SWCC do not go to BUD/S, they go to SWCC school, still crazy hard but its not BUD/S, only SEALs go to BUD/S... not trying to be a troll I just take this stuff pretty seriously, I am a former SEAL candidate, I got med dropped from the Navy pretty early on and have been trying to get back in for the last year and a half. Great read and tons of respect.

O_S_U
08-28-2009, 09:12 PM
That's some good stuff.

Rcoop
08-29-2009, 03:20 PM
Just watched a 7 part video on youtube about Hellweek, highly motivational, brutal stuff.

Universal64
08-29-2009, 03:38 PM
Definitely a great read man! Rep'd for this awesome story.

Halothane
08-29-2009, 10:09 PM
You shouldn't ignore your body, it signals things like hunger,fatigue, pain for a reason. Ignoring your body is basically taking it past a point that's good for you.


Special Ops training are created for a reason; to keep them off balance, to ensure they never knew what was coming, to cause a stress-reaction, to break them, to make them look bad in front of each other, which eventually led them to trust one another. Trust make them willing to go all the way to the edge in each other's company.

Here's basicly what they say when one's graduate from BUD/S.

In a society where mediocrity is too often the standard, and too often rewarded, there is intense fascination with men who detest mediocrity. Who refuse to define themselves in conventional terms, and who seek to transcend traditionally recognized human capabilities. This is exactly the type of person our training is meant to find. The man who will find a way to complete each and every task to the best of his ability. The man who will adapt and overcome any and all obstacles

Great read on here;
http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=45

jason92
08-29-2009, 10:28 PM
nice read

Halothane
09-23-2009, 07:36 AM
"You Can't be in the water enough and you can't run enough. If you guys are even questionable on that screen test, like if you wake up tomorrow and you got a 105 degree ****ing fever, your ****ing, your pissing, your puking all over the place and you can't pass that thing, I wouldn't go to BUD/s. Like you need to be able to annihilate that thing or at least complete it, regardless of what the **** happens if you roll your ankle be able to still fu*king perform. It's one of those things you can't be in good enough shape and you can't run fast enough or far enough and you can not be comfortable enough in the water"

FunAndSun
09-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Badass, thank you.

FunAndSun
09-23-2009, 10:42 AM
Special Ops training are created for a reason; to keep them off balance, to ensure they never knew what was coming, to cause a stress-reaction, to break them, to make them look bad in front of each other, which eventually led them to trust one another. Trust make them willing to go all the way to the edge in each other's company.

Here's basicly what they say when one's graduate from BUD/S.

In a society where mediocrity is too often the standard, and too often rewarded, there is intense fascination with men who detest mediocrity. Who refuse to define themselves in conventional terms, and who seek to transcend traditionally recognized human capabilities. This is exactly the type of person our training is meant to find. The man who will find a way to complete each and every task to the best of his ability. The man who will adapt and overcome any and all obstacles

Great read on here;
http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=45

Repped again. I read Gym Jones articles daily. Mark Twight is a beast.

OrdoAbchao
09-23-2009, 10:59 AM
repped and i believe every word of it

Halothane
09-23-2009, 12:15 PM
Don Shipley from Extreme Seal Experience
www.extremesealexperience.com
Give this guy a try, trust me, worth every pennies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afoBIMQzENE

Adamxl
09-23-2009, 12:27 PM
This looks to be a good article, thanks for the post.

Il_Dago
09-23-2009, 12:45 PM
Awesome idea. I agree 100% that "Can't" is a word far to easily used and a pretty tempting excuse. Really though, as you train more, you should know when you're just worn down compared to when you're really at your limit. Given that, I really don't care for the tone of the article. He doesn't seem like this type of guy, but the tone suggests to me that he wouldn't give someone a spot if they were struggling just because "U NEED 2 SURPASS YOUR LIMITS!!! SO SPEAKETH MACHO BRO MAN!!!"

Requisite 101
09-23-2009, 02:15 PM
Great read.

Anyone have that quote on hand...something down the lines of those who push to their limits are the ones to exceed. It's not exactly that, but I forget whether it was a long or short quote...basically the quote in general.

mossible
09-24-2009, 02:50 AM
wow, fantastic.

and you know what? its true. sometimes, i dont think theres one left in me.. but my friend pushes me and i do it. I definetly have respect for guys like that. Pushing yourself to undescrible pain is something for the strong and strong only.

it really takes so much of you-more determination,courage,discipline to keep going and going and going...

Halothane
09-24-2009, 09:43 AM
it really takes so much of you-more determination,courage,discipline to keep going and going and going...

you become used to suffering, just push and you will push harder and harder

DanielHimself
09-24-2009, 02:01 PM
SWCC do not go to BUD/S, they go to SWCC school, still crazy hard but its not BUD/S, only SEALs go to BUD/S... not trying to be a troll I just take this stuff pretty seriously, I am a former SEAL candidate, I got med dropped from the Navy pretty early on and have been trying to get back in for the last year and a half. Great read and tons of respect.

When did you get dropped, during Indoc or First Phase? Did you go to X-Div? lol, sh*t man, X-Div was the worst time of my life. Spent 2 months on X-Div. We had to cut down all the weeds in the cage with only 2 weedwackers. What class were you?

juiyuanwu
09-26-2009, 11:34 AM
I agree with everyone else. Good read.

xxsomeone305xx
09-27-2009, 01:43 PM
great f***ing read
i just had to post this on my facebook page
measly reps bro

Halothane
09-30-2009, 12:05 PM
NAMCHEE BAZAAR

It doesn't interest me what you do for a living. I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your hearts longing.
It doesn't interest me how old you are. I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love, for your dreams or for the adventure of being alive.

It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon. I want to know if you have touched the center of your sorrow. If you have been opened by life's betrayals or have become shriveled and close from fear of further pain. I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving to hide it or fade it or fit it. I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own; if you can dance with the wildness and let the "Meatheadedness" fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be careful, be realistic, or to remember the limitations of being human.

It doesn't interest me if the story you're telling is true. I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself, if you can bear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul. I want to know if you can be faithful and trustworthy. I want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not there everyday, and if you can source your life from its presence. I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine, and still shout stand on the edges of a lake, river or mountain and shout to the silver of the full moon. Yes! I'm a Meathead...

It doesn't interest me to know where you live or how much money you have. I want to know if you can get up after a night of grief and despair, weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done for someone you love.

It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away. I want to know if you can be alone with yourself, and truly like the company you keep in the empty moments of your life and still remember me...

Reezii
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
**** **** ****!!! holy ****ing shyt. this is a great read indeed

evade6317
09-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Very similar to what I was told in the Marines, especially in boot camp. The drill instructors always reminded us that heat cramps and muscle burn won't kill you. If anything kills you it would be the drill instructors themselves. lol

Halothane
10-13-2009, 04:25 PM
bump

Suhoi
10-13-2009, 11:11 PM
this may be good for endurance training but bad advice for weight lifting imo. if you feel like you can't do that last rep with good form, then going further means bad form... and for what? for that mental checkmark that you did it? and at what cost, bad form, possible injury? consider you're doing heavy barbell curls and you can't get it up with good form, bad form won't be any good for your biceps nor your back which you will arch and put a load on as you raise the weight

that last line is great otherwise though, i put it in my sig.

Halothane
01-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Bump