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A_Great_Man
01-24-2009, 02:28 PM
There are reports that a few Muslims who were released from Gitmo have joined al-qaieda. People will be quick to conclude that this is an example that those who are being held in Gitmo are terrorist and should not be released.

The fact is, these Muslims were radicalized while in Gitmo. Many, if not most, were tortured and treated like human guinea pigs.. There torturers and handlers were there lasting image of America and what it represents. Once they were released, they became committed to radical Islam and everything that al-qaieda stood for.

We have partially ourselves to blame. Our inhumanity is partially why we have so many enemies.

Good Day

BigBen85
01-24-2009, 02:31 PM
or at least that what the left will have you believe. The truth is is that most of them were already radical jihadists before they went in. Its not like we were just picking random muslims off the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan and saying "you your a terrorist, your going to Gitmo!".

dabbmw2002
01-24-2009, 02:41 PM
or at least that what the left will have you believe. The truth is is that most of them were already radical jihadists before they went in. Its not like we were just picking random muslims off the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan and saying "you your a terrorist, your going to Gitmo!".

No, a lot these guys were just vacationing in the mountains of Afghanistan and were just carrying AK-47 and homemade explosives for protection.

FormVoltron88
01-24-2009, 02:42 PM
they go in.. with the intention that it will make them better .. and they always come out even worse.

thats prison for you. not to mention, its common to come out a Muslim too, hence the term "prislam" lol.

but seriously I dont blame them, cause of how they were treated. What purpose did Gitmo really serve though? (serious question) cause those detained were tortured, did not receive any charges, many are definitely wrongly accused dont even belong there, it just made Muslims hate America more and increased radicalization and terrorism within the Muslim community.

A_Great_Man
01-24-2009, 02:48 PM
No, a lot these guys were just vacationing in the mountains of Afghanistan and were just carrying AK-47 and homemade explosives for protection.

So if an American solider is captured by a foreign government, the solider should be repeatedly tortured and held captive for 8+ years, an indefinite period of time? If this does happen, we would have no moral authority to object.

Most of these people at Gitmo were foot soldiers. They weren't engaged in actual terrorist attacks on American soil. Nothing has been proven. No charges have been brought against them.

According to our values, that we supposedly hold dear, they're innocent.

AKmuscle49
01-24-2009, 02:49 PM
Another reason after 24hrs they should have been executed and left in some afghan ditch

dabbmw2002
01-24-2009, 02:51 PM
So if an American solider is captured by a foreign government, the solider should be repeatedly tortured and held captive for 8+ years, an indefinite period of time? If this does happen, we would have no moral authority to object.

Most of these people at Gitmo were foot soldiers. They weren't engaged in actual terrorist attacks on American soil. Nothing has been proven. We have nothing to charge them with.

What government were these "soldiers" fighting for?

nutsy54
01-24-2009, 03:22 PM
So if an American solider is captured by a foreign government...An American Soldier is complying with international law, is identified as a lawful combatant, and is treated according to the Geneva Conventions.

A terrorist caught on the battlefield attempting to murder military personnel and innocent civilians is an unlawful combatant, and as such has relinquished nearly all his "rights", and can be tried as a war criminal.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/loac_2.htm

Nagalfar
01-24-2009, 04:08 PM
An American Soldier is complying with international law, is identified as a lawful combatant, and is treated according to the Geneva Conventions.

A terrorist caught on the battlefield attempting to murder military personnel and innocent civilians is an unlawful combatant, and as such has relinquished nearly all his "rights", and can be tried as a war criminal.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/loac_2.htm

Unlawful Combatants. Unlawful combatants are individuals who directly participate in hostilities without being authorized by governmental authority or under international law to do so. For example, bandits who rob and plunder and civilians who attack a downed airman are unlawful combatants. Unlawful combatants who engage in hostilities violate LOAC and become lawful targets. They may be killed or wounded and, if captured, may be tried as war criminals for their LOAC violations.

We should be trying them in the field, and leaving them in the field... only when we are done with them in field...

DCarruso
01-24-2009, 05:45 PM
Gitmo radicalizes al qaeda illegal combatants is the same as:

medical schools radicalizes deseases

law enforcement radicalizes crime

Tylenno radicalizes headache

Farming radicalizes starvation

Wearing condom radicalizes pregnancy.



Great logic!