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Crunchbar
12-02-2008, 06:57 AM
176lbs
6ft tall
Trying to CUT.

I have been eating around 1600-1900 calories lately, which is fairly low for me. I am STILL gainin weight tho!?!

What you guys think the deal is?

LEX-UA
12-02-2008, 06:58 AM
Could be too low for you.

Are you doing the right kinds of cardio? Also, what KIND of foods are you eating?

gekkoboy14
12-02-2008, 07:04 AM
up ur cals for a while then back down

V5RED
12-02-2008, 07:06 AM
176lbs
6ft tall
Trying to CUT.

I have been eating around 1600-1900 calories lately, which is fairly low for me. I am STILL gainin weight tho!?!

What you guys think the deal is?

could you be more specific? also how long have you been cutting and do you ever refeed?

Crunchbar
12-02-2008, 07:06 AM
Well as for cardio, it depends. I have been very busy with acedemics leaving VERY little time for cardio. This is why i lowered my calories a bit lower then normal.

My prior knowledge of cutting lead me to beleive that cardio is not mandatory if your calories are low enough. It is PREFERABLE as always but not mandatory.

However, Basketball season has started up and i have been getting a fairly decent cardio push from that.

I think the problem might be too low calories rather then cardio. BUT I was seeing such good results for the fist like 2 months.... why all of a sudden am i seeing a bunch of weight gain????

Crunchbar
12-02-2008, 07:08 AM
up ur cals for a while then back down

How slowly should i move back up? How long should I stay up? ANd how slow/drasticly should i reduce calories again?


could you be more specific? also how long have you been cutting and do you ever refeed?


I have been cutting ffor probably 3-4 months give or take. But the calories didnt start off this low. I went probably like 2000-2200 for the first month, then 1800-2000 for the second and third now for the 4th+ i am down to 1600-1900

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:08 AM
I have a similar problem actually.

I am the same weight as two months ago
I am also the same BF% as two months ago
I do have a better physic though and alot more strength

I was eating one meal a day then I started my diet two months ago. Did all the math and started on 2700 cals a day of clean food then down to 2500 when I had no results 2 weeks latter and then down to 2k 2 weeks after that due to no results. Still staying the same. I do not understand it. I am wondering if its due to a poor diet for so many years that my body is scared to use fat?

I strength train 5 days a week and do cardio 5-10 times a week

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:09 AM
are you refeeding?

jackedrabbit
12-02-2008, 07:10 AM
Could be because your metabolism has slowed. You may need to reset it by actually eating more and gaining weight (muscle/fat) and re-cutting.

Tiffany_P
12-02-2008, 07:11 AM
How much sodium is in your diet?

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:12 AM
I cheat like one a week with one meal. I am 20% BF now and do not want to eat more to gain weight. I want to lose this gut :( I decided to try animal cuts to see if it will help. I should be getting them in the mail today.

IUPUI
12-02-2008, 07:13 AM
What color hair do you have? Wait huh?

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:13 AM
I cheat like one a week with one meal. I am 20% BF now and do not want to eat more to gain weight. I want to lose this gut :( I decided to try animal cuts to see if it will help. I should be getting them in the mail today.

Dont waste your money on supps. Train harder eat less , and dont make your cheats extravagant if they are. its simple

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:16 AM
But it is very discouraging to not be losing weight after 2 months.

I also decided to cut all carbs and fat this week out of desperation since I am having no results.

with each meal I have some veggies as well.
whey
can of tuna
chk breast
can of tuna
chk breast + almonds for workout energy.
whey

gekkoboy14
12-02-2008, 07:17 AM
How much sodium is in your diet?

what would sodium have to do with it

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:17 AM
Train harder?

so I do on avg 1:30 hours cardio and 1:00 hour strength training a day 5 days a week.

dirtyeggroll
12-02-2008, 07:19 AM
But it is very discouraging to not be losing weight after 2 months.

I also decided to cut all carbs and fat this week out of desperation since I am having no results.

with each meal I have some veggies as well.
whey
can of tuna
chk breast
can of tuna
chk breast + almonds for workout energy.
whey

this ^^^ will not end well

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:21 AM
Train harder?

so I do on avg 1:30 hours cardio and 1:00 hour strength training a day 5 days a week.

umm way too much cardio
and your diet?

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:25 AM
Well it was

40/40/20 2700 cals

then

55/30/15 2400 cals

now

90/0/10 2000 cals

Why will I not see results

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:27 AM
this ^^^ will not end well

why? cause it will make me feel crappy? due to no cabrs?

Its basically the south beach diet.

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:38 AM
get the cardio down to 6 hours a week. keep training with weights eat 250g protein, 175g carbs(most taken pre and post workout) and 75g of fat. Tell me if you dont see results . Its a very big guesstimate there but I will take a chance and say its a better route than your taking

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:40 AM
get the cardio down to 6 hours a week. keep training with weights eat 250g protein, 175g carbs(most taken pre and post workout) and 75g of fat. Tell me if you dont see results . Its a very big guesstimate there but I will take a chance and say its a better route than your taking

I will let you know. I will give it like 2 weeks or so.

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:41 AM
it takes time to get adapted to a new diet and training routine , fat loss will only really start kicking in after 3 weeks so give it more than that

gekkoboy14
12-02-2008, 07:52 AM
it takes time to get adapted to a new diet and training routine , fat loss will only really start after 3 weeks so give it more than that

no.

blacksmith77
12-02-2008, 07:54 AM
no.

yes.


this could be fun

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 07:54 AM
no.

huh?

Tiffany_P
12-02-2008, 08:21 AM
what would sodium have to do with it

Well, it's nearly impossible to gain fat on his diet, so I was thinking maybe he's holding some water or something.

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 08:29 AM
Well, it's nearly impossible to gain fat on his diet, so I was thinking maybe he's holding some water or something.

Well on all 3 versions of my diet I have not gained any fat or weight in anyway. I am just not losing anything.

no change to weight or BF% but alot more strength. Most of my lifts have almost doubled.

xl Achilles lx
12-02-2008, 08:36 AM
At 6ft tall, what exactly is left to cut? I'm 6', and when I was 175lbs, there wasn't much on me really.

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 09:52 AM
I burn like 3k in cals a day, that includes sleep work and everything. With a 1k deficit why am I not losing weight or bf%?

V5RED
12-02-2008, 09:53 AM
But it is very discouraging to not be losing weight after 2 months.

I also decided to cut all carbs and fat this week out of desperation since I am having no results.

with each meal I have some veggies as well.
whey
can of tuna
chk breast
can of tuna
chk breast + almonds for workout energy.
whey

zero fat besides the almonds will be hell for you

fat/cholesterol is what the body uses to build hormones and muscle tissue

you should check out the palumbo diet if you want to go with very low carbs...i got great fat loss from it...only problem was my main lifts also went down a lot, but i am guessing that is not your current priority

Crunchbar
12-02-2008, 09:59 AM
are you refeeding?

No. there was thanksgiving and maybe a few ohter special exeptions but otherwise no.


Could be because your metabolism has slowed. You may need to reset it by actually eating more and gaining weight (muscle/fat) and re-cutting.

How do i go about "reseting" with minimal fat gain. How long does the reset last?


How much sodium is in your diet?

A decent amount but probably not an emense amount. I thought that your body gets used to excess sodium after a while and bloating stops sort of. You really think water weight is the main issue...?


AS for the TX dude, you need to read boyscout's thread for beginign nutrition or somthign like that.

jackedrabbit
12-02-2008, 10:11 AM
No. there was thanksgiving and maybe a few ohter special exeptions but otherwise no.



How do i go about "reseting" with minimal fat gain. How long does the reset last?



A decent amount but probably not an emense amount. I thought that your body gets used to excess sodium after a while and bloating stops sort of. You really think water weight is the main issue...?


AS for the TX dude, you need to read boyscout's thread for beginign nutrition or somthign like that.

2-3 months.

gekkoboy14
12-02-2008, 08:56 PM
yes.


this could be fun

no. u will burn fat in a caloric deficit

TXDavid
12-02-2008, 09:11 PM
no. u will burn fat in a caloric deficit

well I have had a 500+ cal deficit for 2+ months so I am dropping 400 more cals and doing 2k cals a day 54%/23%/23% | 266p/122c/54f

T0PD0G
12-02-2008, 09:32 PM
what would sodium have to do with it

Water retention?

WannaBeAthlete
12-02-2008, 09:55 PM
Possibly water weight? Not sure how you manage to maintain your energy levels let alone gain weight given your age and ht/wt.

justfyi
12-02-2008, 10:03 PM
What is your diet like? You could be in a calorie deficit while eating like sh** and still not loose weight. I suspect you might be adding on bodyfat while loosing lean muscle due to your severe calorie reduction

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 04:16 AM
well I have had a 500+ cal deficit for 2+ months so I am dropping 400 more cals and doing 2k cals a day 54%/23%/23% | 266p/122c/54f

id suggest getting ur bf tested. either your calories arent adding up, or you just tend to fluctuate al ot in water weight

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 04:54 AM
no. u will burn fat in a caloric deficit
no.

you will lose weight on a calorie deficit actually, whether it is all fat or not is dependant upon numerous factors.

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 04:55 AM
no.

you will lose weight on a calorie deficit actually, whether it is all fat or not is dependant upon numerous factors.

of course it wont be all fat, tell me an instance in which the body isnt burning ffa's

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 04:58 AM
of course it wont be all fat, tell me an instance in which the body isnt burning ffa's

i dont disagree
however, i stand by my argument that it takes 2-3 weeks for the body to go into full fat-burning mode

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 04:59 AM
i dont disagree
however, i stand by my argument that it takes 2-3 weeks for the body to go into full fat-burning mode

assuming normal macros or keto?

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 05:02 AM
assuming normal macros or keto?
to make a sudden shift in macros in general or caloric intake whether its "normal" macros or "keto macros". The initial weight loss is bloat+ a little fat , it starts to regulate and by week 2 or 3 , you are really starting to burn fat. This is my opinion anyway

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 05:04 AM
to make a sudden shift in macros in general or caloric intake whether its "normal" macros or "keto macros". The initial weight loss is bloat+ a little fat , it starts to regulate and by week 2 or 3 , you are really starting to burn fat. This is my opinion anyway

500 cals isnt much of a shift, if you weren't counting your cals it could easily vary 500 +/- a day

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 05:05 AM
500 cals isnt much of a shift, if you weren't counting your cals it could easily vary 500 +/- a day

yup but lowering your carbs significantly and decreasing your activity level can take some adjusting

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 05:07 AM
yup but lowering your carbs significantly and decreasing your activity level can take some adjusting

brb burning fat while suddenly changing my diet

gekkoboy14
12-03-2008, 05:07 AM
yup but lowering your carbs significantly and decreasing your activity level can take some adjusting

decreasing activity level?

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 05:09 AM
decreasing activity level?

the guy we're talking about is doing too much cardio

noethix
12-03-2008, 07:15 AM
Your body is responding to the low cals and tons of activity that youre doing. Ease up. Have yourself a refeed, with a large amount of carbs and sufficient protein. Either this or take a week long diet break eating at your usual calories. Most importantly, ease up on the activity on low cals.

dcoopster
12-03-2008, 08:14 AM
Too much cardio. Not enough food. Especially for a 17 year old metabolism. Lots of cardio and a deficient diet is great if you want to be a fat skinny person.

gjohnson5
12-03-2008, 08:16 AM
Could be too low for you.

Are you doing the right kinds of cardio? Also, what KIND of foods are you eating?

I didn't know there was a "right" kind of cardio

Guai
12-03-2008, 08:19 AM
Eat more...

Back when I had no idea what I was doing I tried to cut on 1500 cals. I did lose weight, but slowly and not the right kind. It made me feel like crap also. Then last summer I tried cutting again at 2500 cals and it ended up working out way better. I lost 17 pounds of pure fat (from 207 to 190) in about 3 months.

gjohnson5
12-03-2008, 08:20 AM
1. You all are getting the OP and TxDavid confused
2. If the OP is in basketball season , then his cardio is going to be up due to that

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 08:26 AM
1. You all are getting the OP and TxDavid confused
2. If the OP is in basketball season , then his cardio is going to be up due to that

lol I am talking about txdave

Dr. Horse
12-03-2008, 09:29 AM
Maybe you have kwashiokor.

Or maybe your calorie counts are wrong.

blacksmith77
12-03-2008, 09:32 AM
Maybe you have kwashiokor.


LMAO

Crunchbar
12-03-2008, 10:11 AM
i am afraid that due to the low amount of time i will spend in the weight room during bball season (due to time), i dont wnat to raise cals to much because i wont be gaining much muscle.

dtburdette
07-27-2012, 09:30 PM
Having similar problem. I'm 6'3 295 but haven't been able to drop any more weight. Physically look more "fit "but weight wont move

bladetink
07-28-2012, 05:18 AM
eating regular?