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msexton1982
09-28-2008, 10:00 PM
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i am 2 weeks into my havoc cycle and all is well...what i like the most is the lack of sides...im usuaally get sides from phs.

my question is im running it at 30 mg a day for 4 weeks...since sides are low would anyone recommend maybe ging with a higher dose say 40 mgs for 6 weeks?

or if anyone esle has a suggestion for a good bulker i would appreciate it

MattMatt12341
09-28-2008, 10:05 PM
do 40mg/day for the next 2 weeks for sure. i loved 40mg/day. And if you arent getting any sides, you should be ok (but of course you never know)

Problem
09-28-2008, 10:14 PM
I'm not a fan of havoc for 6 weeks at high dosage, it kills your joints badly.

you will feel that in the 3rd or 4th week, if not then stay on.

MattMatt12341
09-28-2008, 10:16 PM
I'm not a fan of havoc for 6 weeks at high dosage, it kills your joints badly.

you will feel that in the 3rd or 4th week, if not then stay on.
x2 on the joints...

obmas
09-28-2008, 10:22 PM
x3

actually the only joint problems ive run into are in my ankles. it's hard to get any cardio done. and walking long distances is a bitch

yourname2221
09-28-2008, 10:24 PM
go 5 weeks at 30 or 4 weeks and bump last two to 40

6 will prolly be bad

Problem
09-28-2008, 10:25 PM
I felt my wrist bone was going to collapse when lifting... it hit me hard at 40mg.

msexton1982
09-28-2008, 10:27 PM
thanks guys

im just gonna finish this one out at 30 for 4 weeks

see if any sides occur during the last two weeks.

i ws more interested in another cycle down the road...looks like im not completel out of the woods yet with sides...been running a lot so these achy joints could be bothersome

obmas
09-28-2008, 10:41 PM
just do your last week at 40mg

who knows, you might not even get bad joints. im actually glad i ran my last week at 40mg. even with the joint probs. id even do it again lol then again, im taking 5-10g of fishoil a day

msexton1982
09-28-2008, 10:44 PM
def got my fish oil...

i prob would but then i would have to buy another container for for just 7 caps.

i kinda have gone over board the last couple weeks with orderig supps...seems like every other day i 'need" some more.

i suppose i ould just keep the rest for next cycle...and it woud be nice to get some more free samples.

obmas
09-28-2008, 11:03 PM
1 bottle (90 caps) is enough for a 30/30/30/40 cycle (except 1 pill short, in which case, the first day would be dosed at 20mg)

msexton1982
09-28-2008, 11:18 PM
1 bottle (90 caps) is enough for a 30/30/30/40 cycle (except 1 pill short, in which case, the first day would be dosed at 20mg)

ahh yes...well my math sucks..however in this case im glad...30/30/30/40 it is

good heads up call...would rep ya but im out

obmas
09-28-2008, 11:22 PM
ahh yes...well my math sucks..however in this case im glad...30/30/30/40 it is

good heads up call...would rep ya but im out

i could care less about reps

bba149
09-28-2008, 11:24 PM
1 bottle (90 caps) is enough for a 30/30/30/40 cycle (except 1 pill short, in which case, the first day would be dosed at 20mg)

that's how i ran mine. wouldn't do anything less...

northswell101
09-29-2008, 07:55 AM
I'm a week into my first havoc cycle, I started with 10 the first day, 20 the next, then 30, have been at that for a week now. Was thinking next week jump to 40 then back down the last week.
Was wondering if four weeks was long enough? Should I order more and extend the cycle out?

northswell101
09-29-2008, 07:58 AM
Be careful with the fish oil. It definatly has fish oil in it. I busted one on me a couple of days ago, at work. I spent the rest of the day explaining why I smelled like I just stepped off a fishing boat. Just be careful. lol