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Devian
09-24-2008, 09:32 AM
Just wondering...Bush really ruined the Republican name, and made the entire party the laughing stock of American politics. Republican is the new dirty word, and John McCain and Sarah Palin have yet to let voters know what party they are running for (they have never once stated they belong to the Republican party). I can see why, as they would probably be polling in the high 20% if they were lucky. But it won't take long for Americans to remember these two are truly Republican in every sense of the word (I think they have already started to remember, Obama has been skyrocketing in the polls the past week or so).

Yet, even with all the embarrassment Bush has brought to the Republican party, there are some on this board who will defend the failed Republican ideas and policies to the grave. They will push McCain/Palin as the agents of change, when in fact, they are truly more of the same. It just baffles me that so many can still be so loyal to a failed group and still insist that these failed ideas and policies are what we should do for another 4 years or more.

Republicans should be kicked out of town, there should be a new law passed that disallows any Republican for running for any office because, well, they always F^ck things up. And I don't want to hear any "Oh, the Democrats have been in power for two years, what have THEY done." you don't trash a house at a party for 6 years then blame whoever comes in to clean up for your mess! The Democrats are waiting to get a Democratic president so they can actually get some bills passed, because every bill they do actually come up with just gets vetoed by the ass we have in office today.

I just want to see a GOOD reason to be Republican. To me, it's anti-American.

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:33 AM
Republicans FTW

Democrats FTSocialism

Devian
09-24-2008, 09:34 AM
Republicans FTW

Democrats FTSocialism

Nice job not answering the question.

Cdream90
09-24-2008, 09:34 AM
one word.... taxes

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:35 AM
Nice job not answering the question.

I answered. You just don't get it.


Big Government FTL

Devian
09-24-2008, 09:35 AM
one word.... taxes

One question: did Bush cut YOUR taxes?

ElMariachi
09-24-2008, 09:36 AM
The same way that Democrats managed to stick around after Jimmy Carter I guess. In this case however, for most I imagine it is the fact that the other party presents no better options. John Kerry was a horrendous candidate and Obama is an empty suit, no real improvement found in that direction it seems.


Americans have two equally similar and equally incompetent political parties to choose from.

TheStender
09-24-2008, 09:36 AM
Because Bush isn't a real Republican?

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:36 AM
One question: did Bush cut YOUR taxes?

Yes, plus sent me a stimulus check.

GJBM

TheGunther
09-24-2008, 09:37 AM
Because republicans know that bush's administration did not follow real conservative values.. Just because BUSH isn't conservative doesn't mean none of them are.

Devian
09-24-2008, 09:38 AM
Yes, plus sent me a stimulus check.

GJBM

So you must be one of the wealthiest 2% in America...which means you wouldn't have gotten that check to begin with. So which is it, did you get tax cuts or did you get a stimulus check?

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:38 AM
Because Bush isn't a real Republican?


Because republicans know that bush's administration did not follow real conservative values.. Just because BUSH isn't conservative doesn't mean none of them are.

Are you two cousins.

Wow strong similar names

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:39 AM
So you must be one of the wealthiest 2% in America...which means you wouldn't have gotten that check to begin with. So which is it, did you get tax cuts or did you get a stimulus check?

Taxes Rates were lowered across the board. How is this confusing.

HoosierBoy
09-24-2008, 09:39 AM
FAIL

ElMariachi
09-24-2008, 09:41 AM
So you must be one of the wealthiest 2% in America...which means you wouldn't have gotten that check to begin with. So which is it, did you get tax cuts or did you get a stimulus check?


My parents make less than 200K a year and their taxes went down as well under Bush, quite dramatically actually. The whole "tax cuts for the rich" is bogus as the middle class got the bulk of the actual Bush tax cuts. This allowed my parents to invest in and open up a small business. There are many others like that. If you look at the tax cuts factually and not through empty rhetoric, they actually did help a lot of middle class folks and small business owners.

Devian
09-24-2008, 09:41 AM
LOL and here is the big Republican circle jerk that always goes on here. You guys can't possibly say Bush wasn't a real Republican then say in the same breath that you are voting for McCain this year.

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 09:42 AM
Just wondering...Bush really ruined the Republican name, and made the entire party the laughing stock of American politics. Republican is the new dirty word, and John McCain and Sarah Palin have yet to let voters know what party they are running for (they have never once stated they belong to the Republican party). I can see why, as they would probably be polling in the high 20% if they were lucky. But it won't take long for Americans to remember these two are truly Republican in every sense of the word (I think they have already started to remember, Obama has been skyrocketing in the polls the past week or so).

Yet, even with all the embarrassment Bush has brought to the Republican party, there are some on this board who will defend the failed Republican ideas and policies to the grave. They will push McCain/Palin as the agents of change, when in fact, they are truly more of the same. It just baffles me that so many can still be so loyal to a failed group and still insist that these failed ideas and policies are what we should do for another 4 years or more.

Republicans should be kicked out of town, there should be a new law passed that disallows any Republican for running for any office because, well, they always F^ck things up. And I don't want to hear any "Oh, the Democrats have been in power for two years, what have THEY done." you don't trash a house at a party for 6 years then blame whoever comes in to clean up for your mess! The Democrats are waiting to get a Democratic president so they can actually get some bills passed, because every bill they do actually come up with just gets vetoed by the ass we have in office today.

I just want to see a GOOD reason to be Republican. To me, it's anti-American.

Stop generalizing all republicans

ElMariachi
09-24-2008, 09:43 AM
LOL and here is the big Republican circle jerk that always goes on here. You guys can't possibly say Bush wasn't a real Republican then say in the same breath that you are voting for McCain this year.


I never voted for Bush. I haven't decided if if am voting for McCain yet. I'm independent and I've found that neither party sufficiently is compatible with my views, but the Democrats are definitely at the far extreme, as someone who fled from a Communist-controlled country, I could never bring myself to vote for an extreme far-left winger.

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:44 AM
Republicans help those who help themselves, i.e. business owners

Democrats take away from the hard working and give it to the lazy


That is Socialism and Big Government.

Do Not Want

Stizzel
09-24-2008, 09:44 AM
Just wondering...Bush really ruined the Republican name, and made the entire party the laughing stock of American politics. Republican is the new dirty word, and John McCain and Sarah Palin have yet to let voters know what party they are running for (they have never once stated they belong to the Republican party). I can see why, as they would probably be polling in the high 20% if they were lucky. But it won't take long for Americans to remember these two are truly Republican in every sense of the word (I think they have already started to remember, Obama has been skyrocketing in the polls the past week or so).

Yet, even with all the embarrassment Bush has brought to the Republican party, there are some on this board who will defend the failed Republican ideas and policies to the grave. They will push McCain/Palin as the agents of change, when in fact, they are truly more of the same. It just baffles me that so many can still be so loyal to a failed group and still insist that these failed ideas and policies are what we should do for another 4 years or more.

Republicans should be kicked out of town, there should be a new law passed that disallows any Republican for running for any office because, well, they always F^ck things up. And I don't want to hear any "Oh, the Democrats have been in power for two years, what have THEY done." you don't trash a house at a party for 6 years then blame whoever comes in to clean up for your mess! The Democrats are waiting to get a Democratic president so they can actually get some bills passed, because every bill they do actually come up with just gets vetoed by the ass we have in office today.

I just want to see a GOOD reason to be Republican. To me, it's anti-American.

It depends if you mean the Republican party as a whole or just McCain.

Most will vote McCain as a lesser of two evils, despite the fact that he's a liberal in everything except name. This is the flaw in the two party system, but they will find a way to justify it.

I'm a registered Republican because I want to reform the Republican party.

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 09:45 AM
Republicans help those who help themselves, i.e. business owners

Democrats take away from the hard working and give it to the lazy


That is Socialism and Big Government.

Do Not Want

Again stop generalizing all republicans

Devian
09-24-2008, 09:45 AM
Republicans help those who help themselves, i.e. business owners

Democrats take away from the hard working and give it to the lazy


That is Socialism and Big Government.

Do Not Want

So if you're not a business owner or don't happen to be born into a rich family you deserve no help.

You prove why Republicans don't deserve to run things with that statement.

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 09:47 AM
So if you're not a business owner or don't happen to be born into a rich family you deserve no help.

You prove why Republicans don't deserve to run things with that statement.

Again for the 3rd time...STOP GENERALIZING ALL REPUBLICANS

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:49 AM
Again stop generalizing all republicans

How is that generalizing Republicans. The party is known for small government and helping entrepreneurs.


So if you're not a business owner or don't happen to be born into a rich family you deserve no help.

You prove why Republicans don't deserve to run things with that statement.

Everyone deserves help if they are trying to help themselves.

You don't deserve help if you sit around waiting a Gov't handout.

HoosierBoy
09-24-2008, 09:49 AM
So if you're not a business owner or don't happen to be born into a rich family you deserve no help.

You prove why Republicans don't deserve to run things with that statement.

Nobody DESERVES help.

ElMariachi
09-24-2008, 09:49 AM
So if you're not a business owner or don't happen to be born into a rich family you deserve no help.

You prove why Republicans don't deserve to run things with that statement.



Basically, conservatives are against the idea of huge government-enforced wealth transfers. They never work. This country has spent over 5 trillion dollars on "the war against poverty" and not much has improved.

This is the way I see it in terms of the "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish, feed him for a lifetime" analogy.



Conservatives, true conservatives, want to teach you how to fish, along with several other skills so that you can become a productive and self-dependent member of society.

Liberals want to forceably take fish from the stores of others and give them to people, doubling or tripling the amount around election time. This creates sustained voter blocs that are dependent on the government dole but absolutely incapable of providing for themselves or their families.

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 09:52 AM
How is that generalizing Republicans. The party is known for small government and helping entrepreneurs.



Everyone deserves help if they are trying to help themselves.

You don't deserve help if you sit around waiting a Gov't handout.

I also know numerous people who are always willing to lend a hand to help out others who cant help themselves, whether they're rich or not. Just because a certain size group of people are selfish/greedy, that does not mean the whole party is...

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:52 AM
http://www.moonbattery.com/che_obama.gif

sugicalmike
09-24-2008, 09:53 AM
I do not necessarily approve of President Bush, but how can I still support the GOP? Let me count thy ways!

GOP Ideology Checklist:

Seperation of powers? Check!

Small government with less control? Check!

Low-tax, free market systems? Check!


Traditionally unilateral in approach to foreign policy? Check!




Okay, there's my core basis..... so lets see..... the President does not actually make any laws, so with that being said, after the inefficiency of a primarily Democratic congress, how are you still a Democrat?






edit: CYTX........ after I recharge, I must rep you! that pic made me rofl fo' sho!

ElMariachi
09-24-2008, 09:54 AM
I also know numerous people who are always willing to lend a hand to help out others who cant help themselves, whether they're rich or not. Just because a certain size group of people are selfish/greedy, that does not mean the whole party is...



You guys are arguing but you're both actually in agreement, even if you don't realize it.

CYTX
09-24-2008, 09:55 AM
You guys are arguing but you're both actually in agreement, even if you don't realize it.


Thats why I is :confused:

iamlegend
09-24-2008, 09:59 AM
McCain and his secretary are carrying on outdated ideas.


The Christian right is poisoning the world.

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 10:00 AM
You guys are arguing but you're both actually in agreement, even if you don't realize it.

According to the OP republicans are total embarrassments should be banned from running again because of GW. Sounds pretty stupic to generalize all republicans for one's f**k ups.

CR123
09-24-2008, 10:00 AM
It's pretty simple actually O.P..

It's because Bush isn't the end all be all for Republicans like you and most uninformed people think.

This is the kind of crap that was used in 2006 when the Democrats took over congress. People thought things would get fixed but, needless to say Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush. It's the same crap that's being used now too.

Do you know that George Bush can change parties after he is out of office? Then how would you still be a Democrat with Bush being a Democrat?

bodybuilder127
09-24-2008, 10:01 AM
Thats why I is :confused:

My fault on that part(only really read OPs post)

sugicalmike
09-24-2008, 10:04 AM
It's pretty simple actually O.P..

It's because Bush isn't the end all be all for Republicans like you and most uninformed people think.

This is the kind of crap that was used in 2006 when the Democrats took over congress. People thought things would get fixed but, needless to say Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush. It's the same crap that's being used now too.

Do you know that George Bush can change parties after he is out of office? Then how would you still be a Democrat with Bush being a Democrat?

Yes sir!

The OP asked why, as was mentioned, because of one person's shortcomings, we still believe in the ideals of something....... come on OP! This isn't CBS or CNN! It's the misc, the masses in the R/P are slightly more aware than the masses!

RavenStorm
09-24-2008, 10:04 AM
http://www.moonbattery.com/che_obama.gif

Haven't seen this one yet. :D

iamlegend
09-24-2008, 10:05 AM
It's pretty simple actually O.P..

It's because Bush isn't the end all be all for Republicans like you and most uninformed people think.

This is the kind of crap that was used in 2006 when the Democrats took over congress. People thought things would get fixed but, needless to say Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush. It's the same crap that's being used now too.

Do you know that George Bush can change parties after he is out of office? Then how would you still be a Democrat with Bush being a Democrat?

I agree. Ron Paul is the closest thing to a Republican out there. And if he would take over, we could turn this thing around.

JUSA
09-24-2008, 10:10 AM
So you must be one of the wealthiest 2% in America...which means you wouldn't have gotten that check to begin with. So which is it, did you get tax cuts or did you get a stimulus check? Wow, you have no understanding whatsoever of Bush's tax cuts (one of the few things he did right).

LOL at your ignorance thinking only the wealthiest 2% are effected by capital gains taxes.

CR123
09-24-2008, 10:11 AM
I agree. Ron Paul is the closest thing to a Republican out there. And if he would take over, we could turn this thing around.

I like some Paul's ideas it's just ashame that he doesn't have the Name recognition that these other guys do.

It's also a shame that people write articles like What's on Obamas ipod to appeal to the morons who vote soley on party lines or because it's the hip thing to do.

For example wearing the "Che" shirts, no one who wears them knows who he is or what he did. It's just cool.

There should be a test in order to register to vote, I bet most people don't even know the three branches of government now a days which is terrible. I know a test will take away some freedom but, it's better to have people educated before they take away a lot worse.

hank-williams
09-24-2008, 10:22 AM
Just wondering...Bush really ruined the Republican name, and made the entire party the laughing stock of American politics. Republican is the new dirty word, and John McCain and Sarah Palin have yet to let voters know what party they are running for (they have never once stated they belong to the Republican party). I can see why, as they would probably be polling in the high 20% if they were lucky. But it won't take long for Americans to remember these two are truly Republican in every sense of the word (I think they have already started to remember, Obama has been skyrocketing in the polls the past week or so).

Yet, even with all the embarrassment Bush has brought to the Republican party, there are some on this board who will defend the failed Republican ideas and policies to the grave. They will push McCain/Palin as the agents of change, when in fact, they are truly more of the same. It just baffles me that so many can still be so loyal to a failed group and still insist that these failed ideas and policies are what we should do for another 4 years or more.

Republicans should be kicked out of town, there should be a new law passed that disallows any Republican for running for any office because, well, they always F^ck things up. And I don't want to hear any "Oh, the Democrats have been in power for two years, what have THEY done." you don't trash a house at a party for 6 years then blame whoever comes in to clean up for your mess! The Democrats are waiting to get a Democratic president so they can actually get some bills passed, because every bill they do actually come up with just gets vetoed by the ass we have in office today.

I just want to see a GOOD reason to be Republican. To me, it's anti-American.

http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000202C8.gif So, the country thinks R do a better job, since they have held office the majority of the time.

freeheeler
09-24-2008, 10:39 AM
one word.... taxes


It's one thing to say he cut taxes.

It's another to say your wages go further.

Do you think the cost of living is now cheaper after Bush has been in power for 8 years and have you more money in your pocket after the tz cuts?

revkins
09-24-2008, 10:40 AM
http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000202C8.gif So, the country thinks R do a better job, since they have held office the majority of the time.


That's about to change this November when the USA elects "the most liberal senator in the history of ever, ever".

hank-williams
09-24-2008, 10:45 AM
That's about to change this November when the USA elects "the most liberal senator in the history of ever, ever".

http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002011A.gif

On election Day we will see a R in the White House

revkins
09-24-2008, 10:50 AM
http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002011A.gif

On election Day we will see a R in the White House


ROFL! Wishful thinking man. Do you have any evidence that will back that up? Look at the polls. Obama is leading. The polls also don't include the newly registered voters that overwhelmingly vote for Obama. Obama is a better debater than McCain and Biden is a better debater than Palin. Palin's favorable ratings have plummeted and her unfavorable ratings, skyrocketted. The economy is in shambles. The incumbant president is one of the least popular in American histroy. Advantage Obama.

hank-williams
09-24-2008, 10:57 AM
ROFL! Wishful thinking man. Do you have any evidence that will back that up? Look at the polls. Obama is leading. The polls also don't include the newly registered voters that overwhelmingly vote for Obama. Obama is a better debater than McCain and Biden is a better debater than Palin. Palin's favorable ratings have plummeted and her unfavorable ratings, skyrocketted. The economy is in shambles. The incumbant president is one of the least popular in American histroy. Advantage Obama.


http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000201D1.gif

So, you are another person who thinks Obama has the whole world in his hands?

revkins
09-24-2008, 10:58 AM
http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000201D1.gif

So, you are another person who thinks Obama has the whole world in his hands?


Nope. Just that he has this election in the bag.

CYTX
09-24-2008, 11:02 AM
Nope. Just that he has this election in the bag.

The Bible said this day would come :eek:


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hank-williams
09-24-2008, 11:03 AM
Nope. Just that he has this election in the bag.


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grapemaster
09-24-2008, 11:05 AM
I never voted for Bush. I haven't decided if if am voting for McCain yet. I'm independent and I've found that neither party sufficiently is compatible with my views, but the Democrats are definitely at the far extreme, as someone who fled from a Communist-controlled country, I could never bring myself to vote for an extreme far-left winger.

Cubans down here in Florida aren't too excited about Obama at all.

jafomofo
09-24-2008, 11:06 AM
According to the OP republicans are total embarrassments should be banned from running again because of GW. Sounds pretty stupic to generalize all republicans for one's f**k ups.

nono, you guys voted him in twice and supported him for fat too long. you are all guilty.

i switched from republican to dem after he won in '00, i can't imagine why everyone didn't

hank-williams
09-24-2008, 11:10 AM
The Bible said this day would come :eek:


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk95/mischief08/obama.gif




http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000202C7.gif

Wonder if he could be???http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000201ED.gif

sugicalmike
09-24-2008, 11:31 AM
The Bible said this day would come :eek:


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk95/mischief08/obama.gif


Haha, I told my extremely Democratic friend that if Obama was elected, and he really did turn out to be the anti-christ, that before I was consumed by the flames of the apocalypse.... I was going to call him up and have a really hearty laugh at the "I told you so!" I'd be able to slap him in the face with!

Stizzel
09-24-2008, 11:39 AM
nono, you guys voted him in twice and supported him for fat too long. you are all guilty.

i switched from republican to dem after he won in '00, i can't imagine why everyone didn't

What did you disagree with Bush about in 2000?

Irezumi
09-24-2008, 11:42 AM
Because Bush isn't a real Republican?

This right here. I voted for Bush because I wanted a REAL Republican in office that was super conservative when it comes to our fiscal issues. Instead, we got a neo-con that spends money and runs our country like someone from the far left would.

revkins
09-24-2008, 11:46 AM
This right here. I voted for Bush because I wanted a REAL Republican in office that was super conservative when it comes to our fiscal issues. Instead, we got a neo-con that spends money and runs our country like someone from the far left would.


McCain will do the same as Bush. So why are you even voting?

Cdream90
09-24-2008, 11:46 AM
One question: did Bush cut YOUR taxes?
The question didn't say how could you still support Bush, it asked how could you still be a republican after Bush.

revkins
09-24-2008, 11:50 AM
The question didn't say how could you still support Bush, it asked how could you still be a republican after Bush.


My question still holds, George Bush is a disgrace of a conservative, McCain will carry on the policies of GWB. So why even vote? Just vote for Paul.

Irezumi
09-24-2008, 11:53 AM
McCain will do the same as Bush. So why are you even voting?

Not voting for McCain. And I already realize he will be the same. Not to mention his VP which is a whole different subject. Nothing against Obama but I really don't see where this change is going to come from. He hasn't convinced me yet. Im sticking to Ron Paul.

Dubl10
09-24-2008, 11:55 AM
i'm not!

yet the same question can be asked to democrats.

How can you still be a dem after bill clinton? how can you still be a dem, after the actions of our congress since 2006?

people love to continue to BELIEVE and instead, dig for the truth, reality, etc..

Dubl10
09-24-2008, 12:45 PM
I keep hearing a lot of GENERALIZING.

and that is key

there is NO SUCH THING AS LEFT OR RIGHT, they are both illusionary different sides of a coin of the same puppet team. People need to realize the left-right paradigm is 100% false and wean themselves from it. Republican and Democrat should be words that you BEGIN REMOVING FROM YOUR EVERYDAY USE IN VOCABULARY, AND THOUGHT PROCESSES BECAUSE THEY MEAN NOTHING ANYMORE.

seriously! everyone in this thread, pay attention, ESPECIALLY THE OP!!!


at the end of the day, the media, the mainstream politicians, like obama, mccain, hillary, bush, palin, etc... they all pick and choose certain **** to talk about, debate on, etc.. **** that most of it, is of NOT IMPORTANTANCE. most of what really should be talked about isn't.

it's a game they play to fool everyone, they are all on the same team and it's more of DISTRACTION.



What Brzezinski fails to address is that the US was founded as a Constitutional Republic...not a Democracy. In fact the founding fathers warned us of a Democracy. Thomas Jefferson said that "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." With so many of this nation uninformed of what's going on, it's no wonder that the elite want a Democracy. The US was never set up to attain international supremacy, and was certainly not set up to achieve "imperial mobilization." The US was set up to stay out of the affairs of other nations and never wanted to use soldiers as cannon fodder to invade the planet. Brzezinski seems to be out-of-touch with what this country is all about.

The Republic has been gone for a long time and it needs to come back. At least since 1913 with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act (longest ongoing crime in U.S. history).

these politicians, BOTH parties, don't follow the constitution anymore. and that's all you need to follow to be WORLD superpower.



to quote Nast$al:

It should be clearly obvious to anyone now, that the American governmental system is run by private money elite. If you trace the money back, it leads to the City of London, which is a square mile section of London which is immune to UK laws. It is like the equivalent of DC in America. It is the financial capital of the world where the Illuminati elite operate out of. The name Rothschild should come to bell, along with Warburg, Schiff, Rockefeller, Lazar, etc...

These banking elites control Western governments because they own the central banks of those countries. It doesnt matter who you elect if you don't control your own money. It's very simple. The dog and pony show of the elections is simply a distraction to things that really matter, like the status of the U.S. dollar, our financial and economic freedom from trillionaire Satanist bankers (yes, they are Satanist, as they are actively pushing for a one world system devoid of freedom, religion, and choice).

It is no mistake that Israel was created by money elites (Rothschild) and that their Supreme Court and Knesset building were donated by... GUESS WHO? The Rothschild family.

In the Bible it exposes "those who say they are Jews but are actually of the Synagogue of Satan." Now, it is no secret that Jews have a stranglehold on world finance... now... look at the results of this. Wars... economic decay... poverty... starvation, etc... is this more akin to Satan, or Christ? Ask yourself that simple question. Ask yourself, "do the actions of my leaders resemble more to Christ, or Satan?" Our government lies non stop to us. 9/11 was the NWO birthday. A false flag attack and the start of all this bull**** we are in now. Fake wars, economic collapse, and soon they will present their "solutions" which will undoubtedly take more freedom, wealth, and liberty from us.

The NWO is real. Look no further than the back of your U.S. Federal Scam Note.

On the bright side, the rest of the world knows it and is uniting against them. God bless Russia and their leadership for acting as a counter weight to Rothschild and his countries... its so sick to think of all of this... that it is actually true.