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Dairiel
05-21-2008, 03:11 PM
things i think to be true and am basing my question on

when someone is trying to lose weight their body takes its energy from the food it is given, stored fat, and while hopefully only a very small portion of it, muscle. assuming you burn almost no muscle you need to run up a 3500 calorie deficit to lose one pound.

since one pound of fat is 3500 calories and one pound of muscle is 600 calories, you will lose 5 pounds of fat a month by eating 500 calories under maintenance each day. you *would* gain 25 pounds of muscle a month by eating 500 calories over.

25 pounds of muscle, however, is much more than the body can build in one month and thus eating 500 calories over maintenance is too much

my question

why then do so many people recommend eating 500 calories over? does the fact that you are taking in extra calories rev your metabolism up 400 calories on its own so that you are actually only having 100 extra?

assuming your body can build 6 whole pounds of muscle per month that would mean eating only 100 calories over maintenance each day, yet no one seems to recommend that.

baarat
05-21-2008, 03:53 PM
Building muscle is more about the inflammatory effects caused by heavy resistance training as opposed to just eating a little over your maintainence.

Jules Verne
05-21-2008, 04:11 PM
one pound of muscle is 600 calories, y

It takes way more than 600kcal to build and maintain that muscle though.

Broken down, or used for energy, you'll only recover 600kcal max.

Dairiel
05-21-2008, 04:19 PM
It takes way more than 600kcal to build and maintain that muscle though.

Broken down, or used for energy, you'll only recover 600kcal max.

hmm i hadn't considered the fact that it takes more energy to build the muscle than you would recover from it
does anyone know how many calories it takes to build one pound of muscle?

BigRep51
05-21-2008, 05:10 PM
No, but when I eat 22-23 calories per pound and I stick to a 35/45/20 as much as possible, I start gaining muscle.

Dairiel
05-23-2008, 03:40 PM
are there any other thoughts on the matter?

IGF-WON
05-23-2008, 05:58 PM
because you know you will gain on 500 over. I doubt you know your BMR that well to eat exactly 100 over every single day. some days you might happen to burn more than you think and then youll gain nothing. 500 over gives you an amount where you can be more certain you are in a caloric surplus.