I was wondering, before I start bulking, how much milk is too much? My main issue is I don't want to develop kidney stones down the line from the calcium. Is four glasses too much per day? (in association with whey).
Also, another question, What can I do for prevention purposes of kidney stones while taking excess milk?
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12-23-2006, 01:40 PM #1
How much milk can lead to Kidney Stones?
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12-23-2006, 01:53 PM #2
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12-23-2006, 03:50 PM #4
studies have actually found that dairy products may actually reduce your risk of kidney stones and the theory that milk leads to kidney stones is a myth. Kidney stones are nt caused by calcium found in foods.
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12-23-2006, 03:56 PM #5
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12-23-2006, 09:41 PM #8
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12-23-2006, 09:53 PM #12
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12-24-2006, 02:25 AM #13
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12-24-2006, 03:57 AM #14
XX ... I've had kidney stones and I can tell you what little I do know.
Stay away from foods high in Oxalate. Google it.
The above is correct about drinking tons of water.
Also Black Olives dissolve kidney stones. I wish I could give you a reference but test it out and see for yourself. My reference is protected.
Take 6-10 Black Olives every day.
Ascorbic Acid is also a Huge Red Flag ... Avoid this in large doses.
As far as your question about drinking milk ... I would not worry about it if your water consumption is ample. I'm agreeing with the others above.
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12-24-2006, 08:40 AM #15
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I will back the drink plenty of water statement as well. I had a kidney stone in 2004, two days before my wedding. I earned it from being dehydrated all the time, and I NEVER drank milk. If you keep enough water flowing through your kidney's its very hard for a solid to form since you keep things diluted enough.
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12-25-2006, 02:52 PM #16
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12-25-2006, 02:53 PM #17
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12-27-2006, 02:00 PM #18
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12-27-2006, 02:03 PM #19
actually no, the most recent research has shown that normal calcium intake AND even higher calcium intakes reduce the risk of getting kidney stones. I've posted a few of the links, so happy reading (BTW they're reputable). It's not calcium in dairy that increases risks, its calcium in tablets.
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12-27-2006, 03:06 PM #20
Kidney stones form when small crystals mass together. These crystals can be made up of a number of different substances. The most common cause of kidney stones is the presence of too much calcium in the urine. High calcium levels can be caused by a kidney defect; a diet high in a chemical called oxalate (found in poultry, meat, and fish); diseases such as renal tubular acidosis, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), some types of cancers; and certain thyroid disorders. Kidney stones can also be made of uric acid, which builds up when people become severely dehydrated. High uric acid levels also occur in people with gout. Kidney stones are called struvite stones when they are made up of phosphate, magnesium, and ammonium. These form when the urine is infected with bacteria. Kidney stones also occur in a rare inherited disorder called cytinuria, in which too much of an amino acid called cystine builds up in the urine and forms stones. I had them I know! http://www.hmc.psu.edu/healthinfo/jkl/kidneystones.htm
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12-27-2006, 05:04 PM #21
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12-27-2006, 10:28 PM #23
but if your kidneys are functioning properly and you drink plenty of fluids, the excess vitamin d is filtered out of your body. Kidneys are meant to filter. This is why they say that kidney stones primarily occur in people whose kidneys are malfunctioning or in people who have a genetic predisposition for kidney stones.
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12-28-2006, 12:40 AM #24
Yes, i'm not disagreeing with that. And as for Matt's reply, i'm not saying that milk causes kidney stones, i'm simply saying that it can lead to an increased risk of kidney stones if taken in excess. So in other words, you could drink 2 gallons of milk/day and not have kindey stones, or you could not even drink milk and still develop kidney stones. I'm just saying that it can be a factor, and 4 glasses of milk/day is not excess.
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12-28-2006, 06:41 PM #25
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01-15-2007, 03:58 AM #26
What about 1 gallon of milk recommended by Mark Rippetoe for people who wants to gain mass on his routine? This is what I'm looking at. Maybe 3/4 gallon, this mixed with Cytogainer for even more calcium. And I'll be taking 2 mulitivitamins a day? What do you guys think about this? I'm about 137 lbs and 5'10. Also, I'm talking about whole milk? Should I be using non-fat, or 2% milk instead?
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01-15-2007, 06:24 AM #27
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01-15-2007, 07:07 AM #28
Check out if you have any raw milk available to you in your area. Its superior in every department.
www.realmilk.comThe BIG Yerba Thread (Yes it's Amazing)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=536452133&postcount=2863
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01-15-2007, 07:46 AM #29
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