So whats the number one Aid/Supplement for incresed Fat Loss

[SteJay]

I am currently about to embark on a cutting cycle.I weigh 200lbs with roughly abt 20% bodyfat.Iv been traing about 5 years or so(Im 21yrs old).I usually train with weights 3 times a week and lift as heavy as i possibly can.My main problem is complex carbs like white bread etc.I am a very picky eater so i find it hard to eat properly.I am hoping to lose between 7-10% percent bodyfat.I then plan to start a bulking cycle.I would like to weigh about 250lbs with at most 10% bodyfat.I am currently considering wheter to try the ECA stack (I do not have any previous heart conditions or problems and have tried steroids before and no side effects) or to just buy some fat loss pills from BB.com (Lipo 6 or HotRox etc.).I have read 100's of posts about both The ECA stack and the aforementioned fat burners but everyones opinion contradicts one another.Can somebody please advise me as to which would be better for me?Thank you in advance for any replies

[skibbi9]

#1 - Diet, get that in check first.

[skibbi9]

#2 - Weights, lift then lift some more.

he did mention he lifts heavy 3x week for 5 years.
though cardio would help him a lot

[SteJay]

i do alot of cardio either jogging or cycling I either do 30mins running on a treadmill 3 times a wk or i do 40 minutes on a bike 4-5 times a week.My diet will be in check once i start properly (new yr),but i want to know what is more effective to help me ECA stack or Fat burner pills?(if my diet and training are in check)

[skibbi9]

I would try to get to a plateau before you go with supps. and its going to be a personal choice, people react differently to each and one may work better than the other.

[SteJay]

im gonna try the eca stack i think,its easy for me to get to around 16% bf but anything below that wont shift its stubborn fat in the usual stubborn areas so that where i hope the stack will help.thanks skibbi

[Lager1]

I would make a stack consisting of Dicana, ECA, and 3g CLA per day. Plus cardio, weightlifting, and low carb, moderate fat, moderate protein diet.

[SteJay]

how effective is the eca stack?has anyone here used it?If i get my diet in check(Low complex carbs,moderate fats,min 1g protein per lb of bodyweight) how much % bodyfat on average is lost if cardio is done every day

[DJohnson]

An appetite suppressant if needed.

Other than that... nothing is really worth the money. Just stuff to make eating the right diet more convienient. Namely whey, fish oil, etc. because it sucks to have to eat fish and carry meat everywhere.

[miss_carrie]

how effective is the eca stack?has anyone here used it?If i get my diet in check(Low complex carbs,moderate fats,min 1g protein per lb of bodyweight) how much % bodyfat on average is lost if cardio is done every day

no one can answer that...everyone is different. you have to experiment. basically just do it, you could sit and plan forever without getting anything accomplished. by trying different things you'll learn what works or what doesnt work for your body

[SteJay]

yeah ill just try the eca and c how it goes cheers for the replies

[Aquilius]

how effective is the eca stack?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

By last observation carried forward analysis, herbal vs placebo treatment decreased body weight (-5.3 vs. -2.6 kg), body fat (-4.3 vs. -2.7 kg) and LDL-cholesterol (-8 vs. 0 mg/dl), and increased HDL-cholesterol (+2.7 vs. -0.3 mg/dl).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

In phase II, weight loss at 12 weeks was 3.5 kg with C&E compared with 0.8 kg with placebo. The percentage fat lost, shown by DXA, was 7.9 % with C&E and 1.9 % with placebo.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Subjects receiving the 'active' treatment experienced, on average, an additional 1.5 kg of weight loss compared with subjects receiving the placebo. In addition, subjects receiving the 'active' treatment experienced greater reductions in BMI and waist circumference over the 12-week period.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Forty-one women completed the study. The treatment group lost significantly more body weight (-7.18 kg) and body fat (-5.33 kg) than the control group (-2.25 and -0.99 kg, respectively)

Regards,
Aquilius