help on thinning down and building muscle

[recklessabandon]

Hi I am new on the forum and relatively new in body building so I would like some help from you guys.
Right now I weight 185 and the supplement I take is http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gat/muscle.html
It is supposed to help me gain muscle at the same time help with my weight loss. I THINK it is helping but if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
Also Im looking to thin down (not bulky I'm simply overweight) so can anyone tell me what weight loss supplements to use (and what side effects there are)
I am a tennis player and a goalkeeper so I'll like to be cut instead of bulking my muscles
Thank you for all your helps!

[Goofxta]

This might help:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drjoe7.htm

[tommygunn_stud]

ive never been 'overweight' but i have helped people with dieting. when i am trying to slim down i eat grilled chicken and baked beans all day. eat 6 times a day. for fat i eat peanutbutter. the best way to slim down is to be strict with dieting. diet first, workout second. stay away from salty, greesy foods; ham, french fries, burgers(although i love hamburgers), mainly fast food. another rule i go by is fat content should NEVER out number protien content. 2:1 ratio is the highest i go protien:fat. get in the habit of looking at health labels. there are other tricks too, just explore this site.

[iam fuzz]

healthy diet + cardio + workout = fastest results. Make sure you dont go all out at first because you will always want to go back to your old habbits. Youve got to trick your body.

healthy diet + cardio = weight loss

healthy diet + cardio + workout = weight loss + muscle definition

-fuzz

[recklessabandon]

thanx for the responses
I have already been o na diet (a very strict one for about 2 weeks) I have already lost about 17 pounds but right now it seems to be stuck (hopefully sum muscle gains from workout) but I want to lose even mroe weigth so I m thinking maybe weight loss product would help too> and also how is the protein shake i m using right now?

[recklessabandon]

also my workout routine is like this: chest and tricepts, bicepts and back, shoulders and legs then i repeat usually i have no rest days in between
cardio is everyday and abs i do every other day

[tommygunn_stud]

idk.. ive never approved of diet pills and crap like that. i know my 'approval' isn't any concern of yours and thats fine. but ive alway felt uncomfortable about them. i recomend you watch the movie 'recrium for a dream' first(idk if thats how you spell the name) . just a though though.

[iam fuzz]

i dont agree with diet pill as well, but im no expert on em so my opinon has no merit. Just keep the cardio up and the eating habits. Your probably gaining muscle and thats why youre stuck right now. The main thing is to be patient and not to give up. Itll come eventually. Hang in there bro <3

-fuzz

[recklessabandon]

thanx for the opinions r there any other things i need to watch?

[Roger999]

try go for like 1500-2000calories low sugar diet with cardio 3-5X a week

[recklessabandon]

yup i definitely do that already (actually less than 1300) so overall u guys recommend no weight loss pills?

[recklessabandon]

also because i dun eat much i m afraid i m going to lose alot of muscle as i thin down that is why i thought maybe the weight loss supplements would help since they tend to keep the muscle and lose the body fat?

[Alfz]

I wouldnt recommend any weight loss pills/shakes

I'd go with the natural way..and ull feel a GREATER sense of satisfaction.

[rambone]

of that 17lbs you lost in two weeks, the great majority of it is going to be water, you should be shooting for a 500 calorie deficit (consume 500 less calories then you burn daily)

[recklessabandon]

I guess i lost wieght to fast then...
but one question is that i heard products such as hydroxycut will help maintain ur muscle while help u lose weight? is that true?

[recklessabandon]

hi can sumone give me an answer?