X-Factor and Colitis Question

[bjrboss]

This is from my own bodyblog, i think everybody should read it, it has some very important info on AA, and how dangerouse it can be.


So if you have read my previous blog, you know that I have been having an extremely hard time with a case of ulcerative colitis. This last week I have finnally been feeling better, been able to keep food in me for a reasonable time, and things are slowly getting back to normal, I hope things will get back to what is normal any way. All the doctors and specialists agree that my case was extremely difficult to treat. Overall i was in the hospital for 8 days, in the ER twice, and a lot of tests and procedures and drugs to treat it. None of the typical drugs used to treat it didnt work on me, and some i had a rare, very bad reaction to, which didnt help matters either. Overall I lost 25lbs, and am pretty depressed when I look in the mirror. That was 2.5 years of ass breaking i lost in a matter of 5 short weeks. I will post a pic of me now just to show what a horrible effect this disease had on me, and maybe to motivate me to come back better than ever, but i know its going to take a while.. But the real reason I am posting this is to inform all of you that there is a dangerous supplement out there that i have just resently learned that caused this ilness. Its called X-Factor, or arachidonic acid. I was taking this sup 3 weeks prior to when this al started, and frankly it worked great! i actually gained 4lbs in the 4 week i took it. It was one of the only sups i ever took that did what it claimed. I stopped taking it when i got sick, cause i couldnt work out any way. I didnt think anything of it till the other day when I received info from a cousin who is kinda a wholistic doctor, and one of the articles he sent me on colitis specifically said to limit your daily intake of AA to less than 60mg. to keep the colitis in remission. What?? i then realized the connection, i was taking 1000mg. a day, just as the directions said to. You see, just as the company says, AA works by increasing prostaglandins, (they are hormones or chemicals that cause inflamation). This is a natural occurance with the healing process. The problem is when you increase the prostaglandins as much as AA does, some peoples immune system goes haywire, and starts to attack parts of the body (like my colon) thinkin it is a virus or germ. Im not a internist dr. or anything, but i know that increasing prostaglandin production is a bad thing in more ways than it is good. I am on corticosteroids for about 8 weeks to try to suppress the colitis. Corticosteroids work by suppressing the immune system, and therefor reducing the prostaglandin production. This is a common treatment for any autoimmune dissorder,(a dissorder where there are too many prostaglandins causing unnessary inflamation) such as arthritis, chrones, and colitis. Take it from me, dont ever try any supplement with arachidonic acid, it may cause a autoimmune dissorder, like it did to me. I dont know if there is anybody else out there that had a reaction to this stuff, but it ruined 7 weeks of my life, 2.5 years of weight training, tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and now possibly a compromised life, cause I may very well have subsequent attaks, and am at a higher risk of colon cancer. There may be foods i may not be able to eat also, its all going to take time to heal, and sort things out. It is in my mind, any supp with AA should be taken off the shelf, it nearly ruined my life. atleast there needs to be more warnings about possible side effects.

[nycste]

well hope u feel better i enjoyed the read and spread the word at least more people will be aware of this

[eldawg]

Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Colitis and related diseases can be tough, though it is possible to live a pretty normal life with them. I know some people who are doing just that.

Wish you all the best as well.

[saku]

thanks for letting us know about potentialy dangerous products.

Its a shame you lost all that weight, But get well soon and start hitting the gym hard.

cheers

[Garyboy]

WOW!

I was going to buy halodrol liquigels, but after reading your story, I'm not gonna press my luck. Thanks for the heads up,amd I hope you're back to your regular self in no time.

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by bjrboss

This is from my own bodyblog, i think everybody should read it, it has some very important info on AA, and how dangerouse it can be.


So if you have read my previous blog, you know that I have been having an extremely hard time with a case of ulcerative colitis. This last week I have finnally been feeling better, been able to keep food in me for a reasonable time, and things are slowly getting back to normal, I hope things will get back to what is normal any way. All the doctors and specialists agree that my case was extremely difficult to treat. Overall i was in the hospital for 8 days, in the ER twice, and a lot of tests and procedures and drugs to treat it. None of the typical drugs used to treat it didnt work on me, and some i had a rare, very bad reaction to, which didnt help matters either. Overall I lost 25lbs, and am pretty depressed when I look in the mirror. That was 2.5 years of ass breaking i lost in a matter of 5 short weeks. I will post a pic of me now just to show what a horrible effect this disease had on me, and maybe to motivate me to come back better than ever, but i know its going to take a while.. But the real reason I am posting this is to inform all of you that there is a dangerous supplement out there that i have just resently learned that caused this ilness. Its called X-Factor, or arachidonic acid. I was taking this sup 3 weeks prior to when this al started, and frankly it worked great! i actually gained 4lbs in the 4 week i took it. It was one of the only sups i ever took that did what it claimed. I stopped taking it when i got sick, cause i couldnt work out any way. I didnt think anything of it till the other day when I received info from a cousin who is kinda a wholistic doctor, and one of the articles he sent me on colitis specifically said to limit your daily intake of AA to less than 60mg. to keep the colitis in remission. What?? i then realized the connection, i was taking 1000mg. a day, just as the directions said to. You see, just as the company says, AA works by increasing prostaglandins, (they are hormones or chemicals that cause inflamation). This is a natural occurance with the healing process. The problem is when you increase the prostaglandins as much as AA does, some peoples immune system goes haywire, and starts to attack parts of the body (like my colon) thinkin it is a virus or germ. Im not a internist dr. or anything, but i know that increasing prostaglandin production is a bad thing in more ways than it is good. I am on corticosteroids for about 8 weeks to try to suppress the colitis. Corticosteroids work by suppressing the immune system, and therefor reducing the prostaglandin production. This is a common treatment for any autoimmune dissorder,(a dissorder where there are too many prostaglandins causing unnessary inflamation) such as arthritis, chrones, and colitis. Take it from me, dont ever try any supplement with arachidonic acid, it may cause a autoimmune dissorder, like it did to me. I dont know if there is anybody else out there that had a reaction to this stuff, but it ruined 7 weeks of my life, 2.5 years of weight training, tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and now possibly a compromised life, cause I may very well have subsequent attaks, and am at a higher risk of colon cancer. There may be foods i may not be able to eat also, its all going to take time to heal, and sort things out. It is in my mind, any supp with AA should be taken off the shelf, it nearly ruined my life. atleast there needs to be more warnings about possible side effects.

I really am sorry to hear about your ordeal that you went through when taking X-Factor. It has been proven in a study that X-Factor (Arachidonic Acid) actually reduces serum IL-6 levels through a 50 day cycle. I know that you didn't get to complete the 50 day cycle, but there are studies that show X-Factor is a safe supplement. In case you are familiar with IL-6 it is associated with adverse health conditions such as: autoimmune disorder, cardiovascular disease, asthma, etc. Did you ever have any problems with UC prior to taking X-Factor?

[tranceaddict]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

I really am sorry to hear about your ordeal that you went through when taking X-Factor. It has been proven in a study that X-Factor (Arachidonic Acid) actually reduces serum IL-6 levels through a 50 day cycle. I know that you didn't get to complete the 50 day cycle, but there are studies that show X-Factor is a safe supplement. In case you are familiar with IL-6 it is associated with adverse health conditions such as: autoimmune disorder, cardiovascular disease, asthma, etc. Did you ever have any problems with UC prior to taking X-Factor?

i like how all these companies present with studies..
where are the studies

i am queit sure companies only care about profits and not the health of the individual regardless of whatever they put in their product

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by tranceaddict

i like how all these companies present with studies..
where are the studies

i am queit sure companies only care about profits and not the health of the individual regardless of whatever they put in their product

http://www.molecularnutrition.net/news_story_3.html

Edit: I do not agree that a company only cares about profits and not the health of individuals. I cannot speak for any other company, but we have clinical studies that X-Factor is a safe supplement.

[BoSoxNatn]

Damn man, Im really sorry to hear that, I can understand how you feel. My younger cousin has colitis, and has gone through a lot of surgeries and pain becuase of it. Hopefully you will be fine, and regain your health pre x-factor. I would suggest you talk to some lawyers and see if you would be able to build a case for a lawsuit. Worth a shot man, all those medical bills can certainly add up. Best of luck to you man, keep your head up!

[GeneGnomeX]

Agreed, few companies invest the time and money on clinical studies. If there is anyone who knows best about AA it is MN.

EDIT: Replying to envy not a lawsuit.

[BoSoxNatn]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

http://www.molecularnutrition.net/news_story_3.html

Edit: I do not agree that a company only cares about profits and not the health of individuals. I cannot speak for any other company, but we have clinical studies that X-Factor is a safe supplement.

Well apparently it isn't safe, this isn't even the first case I've read about a harsh reaction to AA. I know I'll be staying away from this stuff...

[siamesedream]

If this is completely true, it's one hell of a story. I was going to buy X-factor pretty soon also.

Looks like I got more research to do and, hopefully, if you're just a 21-post troll in disguise, you'll be exposed.

EDIT: Just saw your pics in your profile. Wow, it appears this is legit.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by bjrboss

This is from my own bodyblog, i think everybody should read it, it has some very important info on AA, and how dangerouse it can be.


So if you have read my previous blog, you know that I have been having an extremely hard time with a case of ulcerative colitis. This last week I have finnally been feeling better, been able to keep food in me for a reasonable time, and things are slowly getting back to normal, I hope things will get back to what is normal any way. All the doctors and specialists agree that my case was extremely difficult to treat. Overall i was in the hospital for 8 days, in the ER twice, and a lot of tests and procedures and drugs to treat it. None of the typical drugs used to treat it didnt work on me, and some i had a rare, very bad reaction to, which didnt help matters either. Overall I lost 25lbs, and am pretty depressed when I look in the mirror. That was 2.5 years of ass breaking i lost in a matter of 5 short weeks. I will post a pic of me now just to show what a horrible effect this disease had on me, and maybe to motivate me to come back better than ever, but i know its going to take a while.. But the real reason I am posting this is to inform all of you that there is a dangerous supplement out there that i have just resently learned that caused this ilness. Its called X-Factor, or arachidonic acid. I was taking this sup 3 weeks prior to when this al started, and frankly it worked great! i actually gained 4lbs in the 4 week i took it. It was one of the only sups i ever took that did what it claimed. I stopped taking it when i got sick, cause i couldnt work out any way. I didnt think anything of it till the other day when I received info from a cousin who is kinda a wholistic doctor, and one of the articles he sent me on colitis specifically said to limit your daily intake of AA to less than 60mg. to keep the colitis in remission. What?? i then realized the connection, i was taking 1000mg. a day, just as the directions said to. You see, just as the company says, AA works by increasing prostaglandins, (they are hormones or chemicals that cause inflamation). This is a natural occurance with the healing process. The problem is when you increase the prostaglandins as much as AA does, some peoples immune system goes haywire, and starts to attack parts of the body (like my colon) thinkin it is a virus or germ. Im not a internist dr. or anything, but i know that increasing prostaglandin production is a bad thing in more ways than it is good. I am on corticosteroids for about 8 weeks to try to suppress the colitis. Corticosteroids work by suppressing the immune system, and therefor reducing the prostaglandin production. This is a common treatment for any autoimmune dissorder,(a dissorder where there are too many prostaglandins causing unnessary inflamation) such as arthritis, chrones, and colitis. Take it from me, dont ever try any supplement with arachidonic acid, it may cause a autoimmune dissorder, like it did to me. I dont know if there is anybody else out there that had a reaction to this stuff, but it ruined 7 weeks of my life, 2.5 years of weight training, tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and now possibly a compromised life, cause I may very well have subsequent attaks, and am at a higher risk of colon cancer. There may be foods i may not be able to eat also, its all going to take time to heal, and sort things out. It is in my mind, any supp with AA should be taken off the shelf, it nearly ruined my life. atleast there needs to be more warnings about possible side effects.

I am sorry to hear that, but every product on the label states to consult a dr before consuming anything esspecially if you have any sort of condition or underlying disease. i think people with conditions need to stay away from supps period.

I believe you waived your rights to sue, the warning label is there for a reason, you have to be smart and cautious

Also need to remember where AA comes from everyday foods like eggs, beef and the like, so i would say if you ate those foods you were eating over 60mg of AA a day.

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by BoSoxNatn

Well apparently it isn't safe, this isn't even the first case I've read about a harsh reaction to AA. I know I'll be staying away from this stuff...

Several members have taken X-Factor without adverse side effects. While, I am not in any way down playing what happened because it is a serious issue, but I would have to find out some more info from the original poster to further assist.

[Dublo]

Wow, I was going to buy X-factor next week, now I'm definitely scratching it off my list. I'm not risking it.

[tranceaddict]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

http://www.molecularnutrition.net/news_story_3.html

Edit: I do not agree that a company only cares about profits and not the health of individuals. I cannot speak for any other company, but we have clinical studies that X-Factor is a safe supplement.

those studies are funded and not independently conducted

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by tranceaddict

those studies are funded and not independently conducted

Honestly, I am not sure what you are looking for here. If a study was performed on X-factor to prove it is safe what more do you want? Have you tried X-Factor before?

[sobelik]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

Several members have taken X-Factor without adverse side effects. While, I am not in any way down playing what happened because it is a serious issue, but I would have to find out some more info from the original poster to further assist.

I am one of them, 2 cycles of Xfactor and I just finished up a cycle of HDLG and no problems what so ever.

AA is found in many sources of food: Eggs and beef are the two most common.

[siamesedream]

Originally Posted by sobelik

AA is found in many sources of food

Yeah, but so is cyanide.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by siamesedream

Yeah, but so is cyanide.

AA is also put into BABY FORMULAS

[BoSoxNatn]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

Honestly, I am not sure what you are looking for here. If a study was performed on X-factor to prove it is safe what more do you want? Have you tried X-Factor before?

I think he is talking about credibility. It would be like some big tobacco rep saying, hey, we got the info right here, there is no proof smoking causes cancer. Well obviously not, when the research is being funded by the company or an affiliate, or when the research is done by people working for the company, or at a lab sponsored or affiliated with the company. It also doesn't matter how many board members have used it, it seems like this stuff in high doses can be absolutely devistating to SOME people. X-Factor gave this guy colitis, there is no way around it.

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by siamesedream

Yeah, but so is cyanide.

Why are you comparing AA to cyanide?

[browndustin]

Originally Posted by tranceaddict

i like how all these companies present with studies..
where are the studies

i am queit sure companies only care about profits and not the health of the individual regardless of whatever they put in their product

Are you serious? If you want to prove otherwise we can bicker back and fourth and post articles from PubMed, but that'll get no where. Bill's research is reputible. AA is renowned in the supplement industry for the science behind it. I don't know any reputible members that would argue with that... I don't know what else to say. I really don't know where to begin?

Everyone needs to remember that there are an infinite amount of variables and YOU are responsible for researching this before you indulge. I'm really, truly sorry to learn about your struggle (had a hard time following without proper formatting - sorry, dry contacts). I realize this this is something that's hard to predict, but it's very rare to have an adverse reaction like this.

One time I drank some weight gainers and completely pissed out of my ass... I thought maybe it was something else so I made another shake and the same thing happened. I learned my lesson.



And like sobelik said, if you eat read meat or eggs you're ingesting AA... I don't think that everyone should get scared of X-Factor because of one rare experience. I think that just about every product on the market has sent someone to the crapper at least. Some rare people have had rare complications. Hopefully you never experience something like this again.

[EMISGOD]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

AA is also put into BABY FORMULAS

Originally Posted by siamesedream

Yeah, but so is cyanide.

I love multi-quotes...

Sorry, gripping discussion, carry on.

[sobelik]

Originally Posted by BoSoxNatn

I think he is talking about credibility. It would be like some big tobacco rep saying, hey, we got the info right here, there is no proof smoking causes cancer. Well obviously not, when the research is being funded by the company or an affiliate, or when the research is done by people working for the company, or at a lab sponsored or affiliated with the company. It also doesn't matter how many board members have used it, it seems like this stuff in high doses can be absolutely devistating to SOME people. X-Factor gave this guy colitis, there is no way around it.

Well we do not even know about his history, due to the fact that it was not posted....therefore no one can say for a fact that XF gave him coltis.

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by BoSoxNatn

I think he is talking about credibility. It would be like some big tobacco rep saying, hey, we got the info right here, there is no proof smoking causes cancer. Well obviously not, when the research is being funded by the company or an affiliate, or when the research is done by people working for the company, or at a lab sponsored or affiliated with the company. It also doesn't matter how many board members have used it, it seems like this stuff in high doses can be absolutely devistating to SOME people. X-Factor gave this guy colitis, there is no way around it.

I don't believe you can say that X-Factor gave him UC, without knowing if he has had an issue with this in the past.

[user178944]

i am waiting for x-factor to come right now, should i cancel it?

[J2jud]

Trance:
To say that a company like MN dosent care about anything but making a buck is very Naive of you to say. Have you actually been to the Molecular Nutrition site?? There you will find many studies performed on AA. Even do a general search on AA and you will find countless studies praising the effects of the fatty acid. You eat AA in meat and eggs!! Do a search on the subject and then make an arguement.

To say it caused the disease is not true. He carried the gene for the disease.

I am very sorry to hear you went through this ordeal. Very terrible.

[Giggety Giggety]

Originally Posted by sobelik

I am one of them, 2 cycles of Xfactor and I just finished up a cycle of HDLG and no problems what so ever.

AA is found in many sources of food: Eggs and beef are the two most common.

Another happy user of XF, oh and by the way if anyone wants to know I still have 2 balls too.

[BoSoxNatn]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

Why are you comparing AA to cyanide?

He wasn't. It seems as if you are justifying the use of AA bc hey, its in this, its in that. Well the multi I take has 10,000 IUs of vitamin A. That doesn't mean its safe to take ten times that, and then say, hey, carrots have vitamin A man, so doesn't baby formula. That argument just doesn't work. I know you feel solidarity to MN, but come on man, this kid got hurt from Xfactor, have some heart.