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Old 12-11-2006, 10:18 AM   #1
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John Romano: Steroids Interview

For those who haven't seen it yet:

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Old 12-11-2006, 10:21 AM   #2
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Nah, I couldn't...or could I...but I realy shouldn't...oh **** it...

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Old 12-11-2006, 10:26 AM   #3
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For those who haven't seen it yet:

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The congressional hearings were a joke. They definately shouldn't count as a point. It was a bunch of propaganda with no evidence backing anything up... And all of the real doctors who had evidence and facts to support steroids were not allowed to speak. It's sort of scarry that things can be made illegal with such hearings.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:54 AM   #4
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It's sort of scarry that things can be made illegal with such hearings.
Kinda like the congressional hearings on the "Mutant X" gene. Thank God for democracy... yeah right!
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
Well said, its like the whole thought process on cigs, some people will smoke a lot of cigs and die at 50 from complications, but some people can smoke a lot and live till 90. Its all about the way you react and the way you do it.
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
It can kill you?? How many deaths have been recorded with the cause of death being "anabolic/androgen steroid use" ??!! None.

They wont kill you, but they can make you ill if you abuse them, just because you take them doesnt mean that you know what your talking about. You sound like you half know what your talking about but half believe the bull**** the media has fed the general public about gear and it killing people etc.... Im not saying its safe, as i said earlier...it can make you ill if you abuse it, but, you wouldnt give the same kind of warning to someone that was thinking about starting smoking or drinking.

Even though the death numbers of those two things that are totally accepted in todays society and people dont feel the need to heed the warnings on the packaging nor do people feel a need to give a warning to someone thinking of taking up the habit.

But with steroids, even though the name says that they dont kill you and destroy your body like people say, everyone jumps on the same bandwagon of your gonna die if you use them and they're really really dangerous!!

Think about it, they're called ANABOLIC steroids......anabolic means to build, to construct, not break down and damage.

And before anyone starts talking about andreas munzer and the others that have died.....remember, they werent taking only steroids, they took MASSIVE and i mean massive amounts of steroids, growth, insulin, thyroid hormones, ephidrine.....you name it, it was in their 20-24 week cycles.

Munzer died from internal bleeding due to his liver basically melting from really abusing growth. Not steroids.
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It can kill you?? How many deaths have been recorded with the cause of death being "anabolic/androgen steroid use" ??!! None.

They wont kill you, but they can make you ill if you abuse them, just because you take them doesnt mean that you know what your talking about. You sound like you half know what your talking about but half believe the bull**** the media has fed the general public about gear and it killing people etc.... Im not saying its safe, as i said earlier...it can make you ill if you abuse it, but, you wouldnt give the same kind of warning to someone that was thinking about starting smoking or drinking.

Even though the death numbers of those two things that are totally accepted in todays society and people dont feel the need to heed the warnings on the packaging nor do people feel a need to give a warning to someone thinking of taking up the habit.

But with steroids, even though the name says that they dont kill you and destroy your body like people say, everyone jumps on the same bandwagon of your gonna die if you use them and they're really really dangerous!!

Think about it, they're called ANABOLIC steroids......anabolic means to build, to construct, not break down and damage.

And before anyone starts talking about andreas munzer and the others that have died.....remember, they werent taking only steroids, they took MASSIVE and i mean massive amounts of steroids, growth, insulin, thyroid hormones, ephidrine.....you name it, it was in their 20-24 week cycles.

Munzer died from internal bleeding due to his liver basically melting from really abusing growth. Not steroids.



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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.

I appreciate your honesty here and it is well taken as real world experience!


I would like to re-post one of my own replies from a similar thread elsewhere on this forum:



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the problem is this: as long as steroids are "illegal", then:


1. People obtain them from black market sources of which may or may not be reliable.

2. people follow advice of certain gym members, or simply experiment on their own to achieve dosages

3. People do this without medical supervision and blood work up etc


THIS is the real problem of steroid useage........it is a similar, in analogy, to Abortions of many moons ago, which, when illegal, people who wanted them had to resort to questionable "docs" and "clinics", and many people were hurt or killed......

since Abortion was made legal, this factor has been removed.


If Steroids were legal, you would then have Medical Doctor supervision and constant monitoring of important body signs, blood chemistry , etc. and dosage would be gradual and sane.......


I am not trying to justify either ( abortion or steroids ) but simply to point out the difference for such things when they are legal or not.
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
If your having that much problems with steroids, I think it would be wise to lay off them. They dont seem to be doing your health any good.

They certainly wont kill you, unless your abusing high amounts but there's not been one case of death.

No one use the pros as examples that steroids are bad, because pros dont only use steroids.
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Anabolic steroids are Schedule III controlled substances in the United States and are strictly regulated in some other countries. (It is perhaps worth noting that anabolic steroids are readily available without a prescription in some other countries such as Mexico, Germany, and Thailand.) However, since the U.S. Congress passed the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990, a small movement has arisen that is highly critical of current laws concerning anabolic steroids. On June 21, 2005 Real Sports aired a segment discussing the legality and prohibition of anabolic steroids in America.[55] The show featured Dr. Gary Wadler, chairman of the U.S. Anti- Doping Agency and a prominent anti-steroid activist. When pressed for scientific evidence by correspondent Armen Keteyian that anabolic steroids are as 'highly fatal' as he claims, Wadler admitted there was no evidence. Gumbel concluded the 'hoopla' concerning the dangers of anabolic steroids in the media was 'all smoke and no fire.' The show also featured John Romano, a pro-steroid activist who authors 'The Romano Factor,' a pro-steroid column for bodybuilding magazine Muscular Development.[56]

In July 2005 Philip Sweitzer, an Attorney and Author, published an open letter to the Members of the House Committee on Government Reform, and the Senate Committee on Commerce et al. In it he criticized lawmakers' actions in scheduling anabolic steroids, as well as criticized their 'disregard of scientific reality for symbolic effect.' He also pleaded for the consideration of the decriminalization of anabolic steroids and asked for a new policy direction.[57] The U.S. government's position since the late 1980's has been and continues to be that the risks of steroid use are too great to allow them to be decriminalized or unregulated.
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
How can you hardly keep an erection with 750 mg/week of test?
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
Nobody is trying to say it's 100% safe and a great health choice. Our point is that the media highly overhypes the negative sides. And the fact is that there has not been 1 study linking any serious health problems with steroid use in healthy adult males.

Yes if you abuse them, or don't cycle properly than there can be negative sides. The high blood pressure, and cholesterol shouldn't be that big of an issue if you cycle properly... and at the very least should go back down post cycle.

Although they may have some possible negative sides they do not KILL anyone. And certainly not as much as cigarettes, or alcohol, which are both legal and widely used among the general population.
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.

Sounds rather unpleasant.

Can I ask you a question... if you're 29 years old, and probably a recreational bodybuilder, why are you on cycle? At your age, you should have more natural testosterone than you know what to do with. Now is the time to train naturally, unless you're trying to step onstage.

Based on your description above, you need to slowly cycle down and quit that sh*t altogether...it obviously doesn't affect you in a positive way. If you ever want to have kids or lead a normal, healthy life, you should stop right away. Think about all the problems you have now...what about in an other 10 years?

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How can you hardly keep an erection with 750 mg/week of test?
x2 - You should be humping every hole you encounter (no homo).

It's just like everything else - Everything in moderation. If you go overboard ,do not research and use it improperly then the chances of permanent damage go WAY up. If you research and use it properly, the chances are slim to none.
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It's most likely the tren that is shutting down his labido
The test at that dose would have kept his libido painting the town red.
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It's interesting how people making these blanket statements about gear have, in most cases, not done any true research and are only basing their opinions on a bunch of propaganda. That goes for both, supporters and detractors. I would be great to have a response with some hardcore references. And those who are users, report your regimen and justify it. Although many don't agree with his approach, Dave Palumbo does a good job educating on the usage of gear. He gives recommends solid regimens and explains why each drug is chosen and describes exactly how to cycle them. When taken under the right guidance, definitely not as life threatening as they are publicized to be. was wondering if anyone paid attention that the subject group under discussion was ADULT MEN.

By the way, George Bush is a hypocrite. If he's so concerned about the welfare of our youth, why not wage such a campeign against cigarettes or simply stop sending them to die in war (Operation Iraqi Liberation = OIL). Maybe because their lobbyist groups are such great political contributors. $$$ CHA-CHING $$$
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
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It's most likely the tren that is shutting down his labido
No chance, its test that gives you the horn.....he should be able to get a raging hard on merely by having an impure thought!!
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I find it hysterical that those whom are pro-steroids are able to provide evidence and yet those who are anti-steroids can't provide much of anything. I am not saying that steroids are 100% safe, but come on this guy has a phd from NYU and he can't even provide some evidence? It's pure mockery. People like Dr. Gary Walder continue to spread ignorance to the public, they are allowing the problem to blossom as a result of pure ignorance. His arguement is that it effects cholesterol and thus is life threatening? Hell, I can almost guarentee you that 70 - 80 % of the nation doesn't get enough fiber, or that 50 - 75% of the public has no idea what the potential risks of trans fats are. How about he goes to congress and makes a petition to attempt to increase insoluable and soluable fiber in the American diet, or ban trans fat. Does Dr. Walder know that it has been proven that 2g of transfat perday can significantly increase someones risk of numerous diseases? How about the fact that trans fats not only raise LDL but LOWER HDL as well? I think a medium french fry from mcdonalds has nearly 10g of transfats, and yet not much has been done in that regard. But no Dr.Walder you are completely justified in your damn assumptions and spreading the ignorance to the public via media. Either petition the government to conduct some long term studies or shut up.

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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running [b750 mgs[/b] of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
I am in no way an expert, but I am going to assume that is rather quite high. I thought most users keep there doseage at around 500mg. As with anything, it is use not abuse. Hell you can die if you abuse your water intake (obviously nearly impossible but the potential risk is there).
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Do not be stupid this stuff is dangerous. I am a steroid user, and I should know. My blood pressure is up when I am on cycle. So is my cholesterol, and my testicles are about the size of grapes now. I can hardly keep and erection, right now. I am in the middle of a cylce I am running 750 mgs of test a week and along with some tren. I am strong as hell, and look great, but lets face it. This stuff can kill you and it is not the safest thing out there. Not everyone reacts the same way to this stuff. Do your research, figure out what you want to do. Then if you must try it out, well try it out. Do yourself a favor and do not kid yourself, this stuff is a loaded gun you can hit your target or shoot yourself. It is all in the aim.
Sorry to break this up to you but you giving advice on anabolic steroids is like a teen section regular giving advice on...anything.

At 750mg of test your dick should be rock hard almost 24/7, if it's not somewhere along the way you were doing something very wrong (and probably still are, how much is "some" tren?).
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And before anyone starts talking about andreas munzer and the others that have died.....remember, they werent taking only steroids, they took MASSIVE and i mean massive amounts of steroids, growth, insulin, thyroid hormones, ephidrine.....you name it, it was in their 20-24 week cycles.

Munzer died from internal bleeding due to his liver basically melting from really abusing growth. Not steroids.
Munzer died of internal bleeding that wouldn't heal because his blood was too thick (so says the official report, I read it around somewhere some time ago), which is more of an effect of heavy dieuretic abuse more than anything.

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But tren without the test would have that effect?
Most things without test would. The most common cycle you'll find being used around your gym is deca and dianabol, which will KILL your test production and everything that comes with it (research has shown that a single 100mg dose of deca is enough to shut down your test for over a month). It's ignorance at work, that's why you should always know what to use and how to use it.

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-Most recreational users have no idea of previous note
-PCT should be treated religiously
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Munzer died of internal bleeding that wouldn't heal because his blood was too thick (so says the official report, I read it around somewhere some time ago), which is more of an effect of heavy dieuretic abuse more than anything.
Im not calling you a liar, but that doesnt make sense bro, if his blood was thick then it would congeal and forma clot alot faster, well, logic says so anyway But i understand it being thick, abusing diuretics causes a huge drop in your H20 volume in your blood, thus causing a decrease in overall blood volume.

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It can kill you?? How many deaths have been recorded with the cause of death being "anabolic/androgen steroid use" ??!! None.

They wont kill you, but they can make you ill if you abuse them, just because you take them doesnt mean that you know what your talking about. You sound like you half know what your talking about but half believe the bull**** the media has fed the general public about gear and it killing people etc.... Im not saying its safe, as i said earlier...it can make you ill if you abuse it, but, you wouldnt give the same kind of warning to someone that was thinking about starting smoking or drinking.

Even though the death numbers of those two things that are totally accepted in todays society and people dont feel the need to heed the warnings on the packaging nor do people feel a need to give a warning to someone thinking of taking up the habit.

But with steroids, even though the name says that they dont kill you and destroy your body like people say, everyone jumps on the same bandwagon of your gonna die if you use them and they're really really dangerous!!

Think about it, they're called ANABOLIC steroids......anabolic means to build, to construct, not break down and damage.

And before anyone starts talking about andreas munzer and the others that have died.....remember, they werent taking only steroids, they took MASSIVE and i mean massive amounts of steroids, growth, insulin, thyroid hormones, ephidrine.....you name it, it was in their 20-24 week cycles.

Munzer died from internal bleeding due to his liver basically melting from really abusing growth. Not steroids.
You must spread some reputation around before giving it to BB is 4 life again...
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