Ok, so I am about to start my winter bulk over my xmas break from college. I have lined up
2 bottles of XF
Green MAG
Purple Wraath
possibly-CEL N-Cinerate
My question lies here....I was recently chosen as a tester by Cutting Edge Labs to log their new thermogenic while on a bulk, N-Cinerate. I have been talking back and forth with CEL and they believe it will be ok, but they suggested that I check with MN reps to make sure that this product would be ok to add with my AA supplimentation on XF.
Thanks guys, I know you are all busy. here is also a link to the product in the bb.com store with the list on ingredients.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cel/ncin.html
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Thread: MN Reps....please read!
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12-07-2006, 12:31 PM #1
MN Reps....please read!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 12:46 PM #2
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12-07-2006, 12:54 PM #3
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12-07-2006, 12:57 PM #4
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You want avoid Green Tea because epigallocatechin-3-gallate selectively inhibits COX-2. It doesn't effect COX-1 but from my understanding an anti-inflammatory like this should be avoided.
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Heretic....
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12-07-2006, 12:58 PM #5
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12-07-2006, 12:59 PM #6
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12-07-2006, 01:01 PM #7
yeah, hopefully i'll get some responses! thanksr your input though. I do value opinions of such respected members!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 01:05 PM #8
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12-07-2006, 01:11 PM #9
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12-07-2006, 01:30 PM #10
Ive stacked stims with AA (X Factor) both times I used it and saw tremednous results both cycles. Plus X-Factor no longer recomend avoiding all anti inflamitories anymore, so I would say your stack looks solid and Ncinerate shouldnt hurt the gains from X-Factor.
I will try to get official word from MN about whether or not green tea and AA shouldnt be mixed, but I have seen it done with success and no adverse, noticable sides.
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12-07-2006, 01:32 PM #11
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12-07-2006, 01:32 PM #12
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12-07-2006, 01:33 PM #13
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12-07-2006, 01:33 PM #14
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12-07-2006, 01:35 PM #15
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12-07-2006, 01:37 PM #16
yeah, see this is what I thought too! I PM' CEL and notified them of my use of X-Factor on my bulk...and they simply responded that they didn't see a problem. However I will notify them of these thread and forwad your responses because I do want them to gain succesful data from their logs. thanks ae, reps on re-charge!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 01:55 PM #17
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12-07-2006, 01:58 PM #18
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12-07-2006, 02:11 PM #19
Very good observation, Des.
BBD encouraged me to apply as a tester but when I noticed that there was Yohimbe, I realized that it wouldn’t make it over the boarder… but I did take note of some of the ingredients. They’re definitely abstract and it’s an interesting product to say the least. I eagerly anticipate seeing the logs once they start popping up.
Sometimes, like others have noted, things in real life work out different than what folks project in labs and publish… not to discredit Bill’s work at all, but we’ve learned that some anti-inflammatory can be tolerated without detriment to AA’s magic (as SwolenOne had discovered!).
The only thing that DOES concern me, speaking as an absolutely paranoid hard gainer, is the NSAID precursors… Aeter touched base on this, and I believe that there was a study published not too long ago that goes to say that NSAID consumption can slow hypertrophy to a screeching halt. That’s a definite no-no.
Salycylic acid/willow are something that I avoid like the plague. I haven’t checked into these in regards to fat-loss, but I assume that you’d like to have some nice, lean gains. That’s really honest of you to check back with CEL to get the green light, and I can definitely check into this a little more if you’d like. I’m sure the rest of the boys are scoping this out for ya too.
It’s definitely a war against genetics, man. I’m sure that you’ll have a sick winter bulk. I started mine a little early and it’s going well. I hope that yours goes well too… with X-Factor helping you to put on some sick gains and my favorite creatine, Green MAGnitude, I have absolutely no doubts!! Please keep me posted
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12-07-2006, 02:19 PM #20
thanks browndustin!! ae....these new reps are repping MN wonderfully!! congrats and I hope you guys stick around when I start my bulk log on Wednesday! reps on re-charge!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 02:27 PM #21
Next Wednesday? I’ll take note of that on my PDA *scribbles note on hand*
Sounds like a plan, buddy.
And I forgot to mention too, did anyone else notice that CEL is BALLIN??? Great products coming out and a chance to train with Lee Priest! I idolize the guy but I’d probably be a little intimidated working out with him lol
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12-07-2006, 02:30 PM #22
thanks bro! yeah training with Lee would be intense....I logged their NOX Surge and it is for sure a solid product!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 02:44 PM #23
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12-07-2006, 02:45 PM #24
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12-07-2006, 03:29 PM #25
Looks like I'm a little late
I believe the anti-inflammatory effects of GTE would be minimal enough not to present any problems. Des would you mind sending me the study on this? I'd like to read through it.
To the OP:
As Aeter already mentioned XF seems to display fat burning qualities, therefore logging it with a sponsored product whose main purpose is to inhibit fat loss (or lose fat) would distort the data.
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12-07-2006, 03:56 PM #26
thanks dan! I have pm'd CEL and we have resolved the issue....thanks again to all that posted and to MN!
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 04:04 PM #27
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12-07-2006, 04:05 PM #28
dan i know I posted it above, but I would love it if you could stop my bulk log every once in a while...i start it on wednesday...I know you have been through some cycles of XF and I would love your input.
I WILL win the war against genetics.
My GB+WB Log:
http://controlledlabsforum.com/showthread.php?
t=1553
My CEL NOX Surge Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12640310#post12640310
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12-07-2006, 04:07 PM #29
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12-07-2006, 04:09 PM #30
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