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    Bowlfex is any good?

    I am not planing on going to gym anytime soon so is bowflex is good work out machine?If it is which model you guys suggest

    http://www.bowflex.com/index.asp?Dom...Ebowflex%2Ecom

    http://www.modells.com/product/index...entPage=family is this any good? i know its cheaper
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    no. my experience with a bowflex has been that they are absolute ****. "simulates free weights" is a ****ing joke. you only get resistance about 3/4ths through a full rep. you can get a quality set of free weights for the OUTRAGEOUS price of a bowflex. THEY ARE CRAP. DON'T DO IT.
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    Originally Posted by mario200 View Post
    I am not planing on going to gym anytime soon so is bowflex is good work out machine?If it is which model you guys suggest

    http://www.bowflex.com/index.asp?Dom...Ebowflex%2Ecom

    http://www.modells.com/product/index...entPage=family is this any good? i know its cheaper
    I think even a Smith ( ) is better than that piece of junk.
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    Originally Posted by mario200 View Post
    I am not planing on going to gym anytime soon so is bowflex is good work out machine?If it is which model you guys suggest

    http://www.bowflex.com/index.asp?Dom...Ebowflex%2Ecom

    http://www.modells.com/product/index...entPage=family is this any good? i know its cheaper

    Buy a set of dumbells, a barbell and a bench
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    Originally Posted by darklight79 View Post
    I think even a Smith ( ) is better than that piece of junk.
    wow are you guys being seriouse about bowflex?lol i always begged my parent about getting me bowflex every christmas.I seen on tv almost everyday lot of people were success blah blah Did i get brainwashed?I guess i've go with Old school style.
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    Originally Posted by mario200 View Post
    I am not planing on going to gym anytime soon so is bowflex is good work out machine?If it is which model you guys suggest

    http://www.bowflex.com/index.asp?Dom...Ebowflex%2Ecom

    http://www.modells.com/product/index...entPage=family is this any good? i know its cheaper
    The bowflex is even worse than your English.









    In all seriousness, just put together a basic home gym or bite the bullet and get a membership somewhere. You're 16, so I'm guessing your high school probably has a weight room. Why not just use that?
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    Originally Posted by mario200 View Post
    wow are you guys being seriouse about bowflex?lol i always begged my parent about getting me bowflex every christmas.I seen on tv almost everyday lot of people were success blah blah Did i get brainwashed?I guess i've go with Old school style.
    Bro, we're being serious here. Nothing beats weights when it comes to results. If you're looking to build serious mass, bowflex is not it. Don't get fooled by all the commercials and oiled before/after physiques on TV. You're still young and impressionable, so i don't really blame you for getting influenced like that.
    So you gonna believe a crappy commercial or the members here?
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    waste of money...

    ask for a power rack like this...

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ptec/spr.html

    the weights... and a bench (get a free bench and just use it in your power rack)

    and you will be good to go...
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    Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
    waste of money...

    ask for a power rack like this...

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ptec/spr.html

    the weights... and a bench (get a free bench and just use it in your power rack)

    and you will be good to go...
    Agreed. In fact, I think I'm gonna grab one of those once they're back in stock .

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    PS - If nothing else, work on bodyweight exercises until you have access to free weights.
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    Originally Posted by mightymouse37 View Post
    The bowflex is even worse than your English.









    In all seriousness, just put together a basic home gym or bite the bullet and get a membership somewhere. You're 16, so I'm guessing your high school probably has a weight room. Why not just use that?
    ah ok g@Y man
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    For the cost, you could really put together a sick home gym with free weights, power rack etc.

    My dad has a bowflex, he's older (59) with bad joints. So it's good for him.

    For you, at 16. Diet could possibly be more important then the weight #'s you put up. Grab a part time job, mow some lawns, beg your parents, etc.. whats' $30/month really? Get into a gym with some more serious lifters, research the diet's and routines. Read up on the wonderful sticky's. Hit the gym 3 times a week or whatever, stick to any reasonable, nominal, program + a good diet. You'll be tore up soon enough.
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    Originally Posted by darklight79 View Post
    I think even a Smith ( ) is better than that piece of junk.
    Whoa whoa whoa... let's not say something we can't take back here.

    Can you get stonger and in better shape using a bowflex? For the average joe shmo that's kinda sorta serious about staying in shape, absolutely. Will you progress at the same level as you would with free weights or to the level that the majority of the people on this forum are trying to atain? Absolutely not.

    As for the smith machine, let's not go there. Speaking its name only gives it more power.
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    use bowflex only when u feel u reach ur max, and all u need to do is enter the cutting phase of cycle.
    think bowflex will be great in that end but otherwise it sucks if ur goal is to bulk and gain alotta strength.
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    Originally Posted by mario200 View Post
    wow are you guys being seriouse about bowflex?lol i always begged my parent about getting me bowflex every christmas.I seen on tv almost everyday lot of people were success blah blah Did i get brainwashed?I guess i've go with Old school style.
    Yep, you got brainwashed. Don't feel bad, though; a lot of people fall for that. The guys in the Bowflex commercials most assuredly built their bodies with free weights.

    'nuff said.
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    Originally Posted by HELIX35 View Post
    As for the smith machine, let's not go there. Speaking its name only gives it more power.
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    lol teh bowflex. Makes me think of chuck norris
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    It's saddening the mighty Chuck Norris would stoop to infomercials. I mean, the man killed the dinosaurs for christs sake.
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    lol teh bowflex. Makes me think of chuck norris
    You're thinking of the Total Gym.
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    wussflex is for candyasses i'm sorry =\
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    I used the Bowflex for several years and it didn't really do anything for me. Finally one time when I went to a gym, after literally maxing out at the "405 lbs weight limit" for flat benching exercises on the Bowflex, I was barely even able to put up 225 lbs on a real bench. On top of that, you can't really even do squats, deadlifts, powercleans, dips, nor pullups with that machine, which are really important in my opinion. What I use to workout at home, is a power rack, with plate holders on some of the safety spotter levels (prefurably ones that you don't use), a high and low pulley system (attached to the rack of course), an adjustable bench, and a leverage preacher curl machine. All this stuff, plus the weights and the barbell of course, ended up costing me about $1750, which is certainly cheaper than a lot of the "high quality" bowflex machines that they sell. Remember that you won't need a human spotter when performing any of your exercises with this machine. Here's my power rack, just to give you an idea... http://www.box.net/public/static/yrk6j3pqrk.jpg
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    anyone notice he wrote if a BOWLflex is any good?


    maybe at the toilet.
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    Originally Posted by zaga View Post
    Buy a set of dumbells, a barbell and a bench
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    use bowfllex only for stretch exercise, it can help to limited degree but certainly need real man's gym equipment the old fashion way.
    "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

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    Originally Posted by fabregas View Post
    no. my experience with a bowflex has been that they are absolute ****. "simulates free weights" is a ****ing joke. you only get resistance about 3/4ths through a full rep. you can get a quality set of free weights for the OUTRAGEOUS price of a bowflex. THEY ARE CRAP. DON'T DO IT.
    Where do they say it simulates a free weight? All ads I've seen for it expound on how unlike a freeweight it is. You get resistance throughout the entire repetition. It is less at the start, most at the end. While it's true free weights are cheaper, bow flexes are a lot lighter, take up less space, safer, and are faster to change between exercises if you're trying to work up to a good heart rate. I wouldn't call them crap, I plan to buy one.
    Originally Posted by darklight79 View Post
    I think even a Smith ( ) is better than that piece of junk.
    Better how?

    Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
    My dad has a bowflex, he's older (59) with bad joints. So it's good for him.
    Wouldn't doing exercises that don't aggravate bad joints be good for young as well as old?

    Originally Posted by HELIX35 View Post
    Will you progress at the same level as you would with free weights or to the level that the majority of the people on this forum are trying to atain? Absolutely not.
    Originally Posted by sami72 View Post
    it sucks if ur goal is to bulk and gain alotta strength.
    I don't see why your strength would progress any slower on a bowflex than when using free weights. As for max level, indeed, when someone theoretically does max out the machine, they'd probably need to go to free weights for further progress. How many people posting on this thread have actually maxed out the machine on even one exercise though? I'm actually going to e-mail Nautilus about how high it goes. I mean, I can understand limited space with those weird rods, but with BowFlex Revolution they use these weird plates with spiraling bands inside them, I don't see why you couldn't attach a near-infinite amount of those.

    Originally Posted by JFraser1 View Post
    I used the Bowflex for several years and it didn't really do anything for me. Finally one time when I went to a gym, after literally maxing out at the "405 lbs weight limit" for flat benching exercises on the Bowflex, I was barely even able to put up 225 lbs on a real bench.
    I'm pretty sure you've built the strength to unrack a 405lb barbell in the bench press, just not to lower it, since Bowflex's listed weight is for full extension. If you couldn't, the reason might be is that when using a bowflex, you slowly work up to producing optimal force from lesser tensions. In unracking the barbell, you'd have to go from zero to full throttle. You'd also be scared ****less of it crushing you. They are also very different movements. For example, just because someone can bench 225lbs, does not mean they'd be able to instantly do the 405lb weight limit on the Bow Flex. My bet is they wouldn't be able to reach full extension, or even halfway.

    Originally Posted by JFraser1 View Post
    On top of that, you can't really even do squats, deadlifts, powercleans, dips, nor pullups with that machine, which are really important in my opinion.
    Some of the bowflexes have squat machine attachments. Bowflex uses the lat pulldown in place of the pullup. All the others' muscles can be stimulated with other exercises. These are great exercises though, which the bowflex can't cover, sure, though that wouldn't make progressing in the things you can do on it any less useful.
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    I'm sure that none of the models in the bowflex commercials got into that sort of shape using that POS.
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    Originally Posted by sami72 View Post
    use bowflex only when u feel u reach ur max, and all u need to do is enter the cutting phase of cycle.
    think bowflex will be great in that end but otherwise it sucks if ur goal is to bulk and gain alotta strength.
    Yes, but if you work out with Bowflex you will have the hand strength necessary to actually spell out and fully type the words "you" and "your" and "a lot of".

    I think that is a significant benefit of the Bowflex technology.
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    Originally Posted by Tyciol View Post
    All ads I've seen for it expound on how unlike a freeweight it is.
    You say this as if it is a plus for the bowflex...

    Originally Posted by Tyciol
    You get resistance throughout the entire repetition. It is less at the start, most at the end.
    Yes, almost nonexistent at the start, and not nearly what they claim even at full extension

    Originally Posted by Tyciol
    bow flexes are a lot lighter, take up less space, safer, and are faster to change between exercises if you're trying to work up to a good heart rate.
    wrong, wrong, and wrong. A bowflex takes almost the exact amount of space as a rack when you take into account the space needed for the rods to bend. If you set up a rack properly it can be very safe to lift in, and changing between exercises is just as quick or quicker with a rack. And lighter? what difference does that make?



    Originally Posted by Tyciol
    How many people posting on this thread have actually maxed out the machine on even one exercise though?
    Me. On at least three movements. Chest presses, squats, and pulldowns. Yes, I only had 310 whatever (won't call it pounds, thats apparently not what it is) but I was not about to give this scam of a company more of my money for an upgrade that would get me what, another month before I max out again? And like someone else said, I never got sore with the bowflex, and while I could easily bench press all "310" on the bowflex, the first time I put my back on a real bench, I could barely push 205 for 6 reps, And the next day I had the soreness of someone that hasn't worked out in years. Spare me the "soreness doesnt indicate growth" bit, first of all, show me proof it doesn't, but more importantly, soreness will indicate how hard a muscle was hit during a workout...obviously the bowflex wasn't doing crap.


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    I have lifted free weights nearly all my life and Bowflex cannot compare, especially when you are young. I own a Bowflex AND freeweights so in my opinion at my age there is a place for both. I lift at home alone and more than once I've been pinned by a heavy bench press. (Hint, leave the outside collars off.)

    Bottom line..... If your young, take the Bowflex money and invest in free weights. If you're an old fart, the Bowflex is eaiser on the joints.
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    Originally Posted by mightymouse37 View Post
    The bowflex is even worse than your English.







    In all seriousness, just put together a basic home gym or bite the bullet and get a membership somewhere. You're 16, so I'm guessing your high school probably has a weight room. Why not just use that?
    Dude your talking S.H.I.T. Grab something with some T.I.T.S. The Girl in the picture Looks like a upright Bench With no DB'S.
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    How often in your life does the thing you lift have a controlled movement? that thing will not make you ready for real life stuff imo
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