uh....stan got his pro card a couple of weeks ago.
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12-10-2006, 10:11 AM #64
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So the answers are known...so answer my questions: How muc did Tiger Woods, Michael Schumacher, Pudge Rodriquez and Kyle Korver make last year in salaries, ALL endorsements and all other income? Research and get back to me with your answers.
But of course you won't because you will not be able to find the information...its not out there. Most of it is PRIVATE.
And don't answer me generalities likeTiger Woods $100 million from Nike...what is the total of ALL of his income from ALL sources???
Just because someone is "rich" doesn't mean they don't have rights like everyone else and most people of all classes don't want every Tom Dick and Harry know what they make and in my case, no one knows except for the accountant who does my taxes."People listen to rich folks. People they pray for poor folks"- John Thompson, long time head basketball coach at Georgetown University.
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I've been in Richmond for 6 months. I work as loan underwriter for a large bank and have lived in the Northeast, Texas and now Richmond. About 25% of the loans I look at are real estate in the Gulf Coast and other southeastern states.
I am not saying people do not make alot of money in real estate, but it is not a fool proof industry and if you do any reading on current market conditions, you would know, as I haved pointed out on more than one occasion, the Las Vegas market is NOT much better than Richmond and in fact is one of the regions that is or could turn into a recession in the very near future. As I AGAIN have said on more than one occasion, the condo market in Las Vegas was rife in speculation the last two years where people were buying properties with no intent to hold them, but to resell them quickly. There were more buyers than sellers and also easy and low rate mortgage programs for the buyers. Rates are now up substantially and also builders overbuilt the market which has been a common occurrence in other booms.
So where are we today? Too many condos...higher interest rates...lenders tightening on mortgage qualification standards. The result: A falling market.
And as I said before, if Jay or anyone else is sitting on residential properties
they bought nine months ago, it is likely they have fallen in value and there are few buyers out there right now.
I do not handle Las Vegas as I said, but where I work we are seeing more and more problems cropping of builders and speculators who are stuck with properties in Gulf Coast resorts they cannot sell and thus loans they cannot repay. This is typical in the early stages of all real estate corrections and the problems will likely only get worse in 2007."People listen to rich folks. People they pray for poor folks"- John Thompson, long time head basketball coach at Georgetown University.
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Just to put the final nail in the coffin for your ludicrous statement, here is an article this week on Tiger Woods' signing of a new endorsement contract with Nike:
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=2695135
The fourth paragraph: " As per ( Nike) company policy, terms of the contract were not released."
The story does say his last contract was for a reported $100 million, but this is conjecture and was never verified by Woods or the company.
As I stated, all of this information is PRIVATE.
Oh, by the way, Nike is a publicly traded company."People listen to rich folks. People they pray for poor folks"- John Thompson, long time head basketball coach at Georgetown University.
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12-17-2006, 08:30 AM #70
That's completely false right there, Jay's dad had 7 kids to support and owned a farm but he was not rich by any means, actually, Jay used to go to school with holes in his shoes before when he was a kid. His brothers owned a construction co that Jay worked for but he was not well off at all. Jay is a self made man, he had no help from his family.
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09-02-2007, 10:24 AM #74
Saaaaave those dollars!
That's very interesting. Hey, regardless of their income, I'm sure you agree that what's important is what you save and invest rather than what you necessarily earn. I saw former Mr. World Bill Grant at an NPC show where he was emceeing. He was generous with his time, autographed one of his business cards for me, and talked a bit. He said that bodybuilding will always be a niche sport and that the young guys need to put some money away for the future.
Not many get rich from bodybuilding. I thought I heard that's one reason why one of the older legends of bodybuilding is still on the circuit. I'm sure he loves bodybuilding, but I heard he was having a bit of financial trouble.
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09-02-2007, 10:38 AM #76http://curtjames.com/
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09-02-2007, 07:26 PM #78I had a goal to be the best from day one
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09-02-2007, 07:37 PM #79
Incomes....
His and Ronnies endorsement contracts with their respective sponsors are the biggest in bodybuilding.....and Ronnies contract with BSN is the most lucrative in bodybuilding history.
Actually Jay's new contract w/ MuscleTech makes him the highest paid in history. Ron's w/ BSN has been I believe 600k/yr and Jay's new one is undisclosed, but stated that it is higher than 600k!Last edited by BIGNNC; 09-02-2007 at 07:38 PM. Reason: spelling
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I can't confirm it, but I read speculation somewhere in one of the magazine columns that Jay re upped with Muscle Tech for the first million dollar plus contract right after he won the Olympia. Based on his marketability and the great way he deals with the bodybuilding public, I wouldn't doubt that it is true.
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09-03-2007, 02:04 PM #82
even i f Jay's new contract contract with Mtech is for a million or so a year that is not that much when you consider the number 1 golfer in the world makes about 80 times that much a year and Jay works at least as hard. I love this sport but they need to get with the times in terms of $$$ that the guys make. How do they expect to bring new talent to the sport when the return for all the effort put in is so minimal? This is the reason the sport is dying.
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09-03-2007, 02:18 PM #83
I heard that Jay's new MuscleTech contract for for like $700k a year. That could be false, but that is what I heard. Jay is definitely a very smart businessman and that is why he makes the money he does.
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09-03-2007, 02:34 PM #84
Dying? I didn't even know it was sick.
You can't compare apples and oranges. Golf is golf. Tennis is tennis. Bodybuilding is bodybuilding. Bowling is bowling. The NBA is, hey, the NB frigging A. Each sport has its financial rewards or lack thereof.
I'm sure there are miniature golf enthusiasts sitting in a clubhouse somewhere b!tching about the lack of money in the sport (cough).
You can't compare Tiger to Cutler. Nike covers a number of sports and also has quite the markup on its products. Think Hondurans sewing $200 shoes for fifteen cents a month or some unholy return on their efforts. There may be a wonderful markup on supplements, but I think it's safe to say that Adidas and Nike have a significant advantage over BSN or MuscleBlecch.
And how is the sport dying? I just paid, what, eight bucks for a copy of MD. I'm doing my part, dammit! What about you???http://curtjames.com/
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You have to be careful. For every Tiger Woods who makes millions, there are a thousand golfers, tennis players, race drivers and others who try to go pro and fail, spending thousands of dollars doing so. I was watching the US Tennis Open a couple of day ago. They talked about an American teenager who lost early. Her parents have spent $30-50,000 a year on coaches, travel and tournament fees and these are not well off people. If she doesn't make it ( and the odds are against it) big, they will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt with no retirement money as they have already spent that supporting this kid's dream of tennis stardom.
In any sport or in the world of business, you are paid what you are worth. Tiger Woods, Maria Sharapova, Michael Shumacher and others like them earn prize money by winning major tournaments which are supported by major sponsors who know that they are getting major bang for their buck as these events draw large audiences, both in person and on television, plus get major media exposure. Tiger and the others also get major endorsement contracts because for every dollar their sponsors pay them, they get 2 or 3 dollars back in return from increased sales and the like.
That is not true in bodybuilding. It is a niche sport with a small following and will always be so. So no one is going to pay anywhere near the dollars to bodybuilders because there is not enough money to be made back in return.
Only the elite very few like Jay, Ronnie and maybe Victor and Dexter are the only ones who will make a significant living from this sport. And if you are a woman, forget about it.
"Working hard" means nothing. A starving artist works hard, so what???Last edited by egoatdoor; 09-03-2007 at 02:39 PM.
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I met former Mr. World Bill Grant at an NPC show last year and he made the same statement regarding bodybuilding being a niche sport. It's definitely not the NBA or the NFL. No retirement fund here. Although the old heroes of the NFL aren't receiving much in way of retirement either, unfortunately.
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