Hey guys,
I feel kind of weird posting this, but im sure you guys can help. I am only 25 and I have a mild form of ED (not due to taking any test boosting product etc...so dont even go there....I always follow proper PCT proceedures) due to a miniture stroke from cancer I had at age 16 (completely recovered now...only remains left is mild ED) ...
Now my test levels are normal , so thats great (off cycle months)
But is there any supplements I can take for ED that will help it? Im not sure how much Test boosting products (natural for off cycle) can help me, and I can and am prescribed Viagra (but its really not "cool" to carry round and I have to wait 30 mins......before doing anything....)
But is there anything else? I thought about NO2, but im not sure if that would help much.... any suggestions guys?
Thanks You guys are awesome!
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12-03-2006, 09:57 PM #1
Erectile Dysfunction Supps
"....I damn well had a penis cramp (wtf i know, but it happened! ) the other day whilst lifting......not a good feeling i can tell u !! "
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12-04-2006, 04:37 AM #2
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Hope some of this helps:
Check out Asian ginseng
900 mg of a concentrated herbal extract two or three times a day may improve libido and ability to maintain erection.
Give ginkgo a go
Take 240 mg a day of a standardized herbal extract to increase blood flow to the penis.
Try yohimbe and DHEA
With the help of a doctor experienced in these treatments, take an herbal extract of yohimbe containing 15 to 30 mg a day of yohimbine to increase blood flow, or 50 mg a day of the supplement dehydroepiandrosterone to improve hormone levels. Be careful with yohimbe and other supplements that you are taking as some people get bad side effects from Yohimbe on its own.
Product ratings for erectile dysfunction:
Science Ratings Nutritional Supplements Herbs:
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Asian ginseng,Yohimbe
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Arginine,DHEA,L-carnitine plus acetyl-L-carnitine,Pycnogenol®,Butea superba,
Ginkgo biloba (for ED of vascular origin),Horny goat weed.
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Damiana
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* - For an herb, supported by traditional use but minimal or no scientific evidence. For a supplement, little scientific support and/or minimal health benefit.
Herbs that may be helpful:
Yohimbine - (the primary active constituent in yohimbe) has been shown in several double-blind trials to help treat men with ED; negative results have also been reported, however. Yohimbe dilates blood vessels and may help, regardless of the cause of ED. A tincture of yohimbe bark is often used in the amount of 5 to 10 drops three times per day. Standardized yohimbe extracts are also available. A typical daily amount of yohimbine is 15 to 30 mg. It is best to use yohimbe and yohimbine under the supervision of a physician.
Asian ginseng - (Panax ginseng) has traditionally been used as a supportive herb for male potency. A double-blind trial found that 1,800 mg per day of Asian ginseng extract for three months helped improve libido and the ability to maintain an erection in men with ED. The benefit of Asian ginseng confirmed in another double-blind study, in which 900 mg three times a day was given for eight weeks.
Butea superba - is a Thai plant that has been used traditionally to increase sexual vigor. In a preliminary trial, 82% of men with erectile dysfunction reported an improvement in erectile function while taking Butea superba for three months. The amount used was 500 mg per day for the first four days, followed by 1,000 mg per day thereafter. The response rate in the placebo group could not be evaluated, because none of the men receiving the placebo returned for their follow-up visit.
Ginkgo biloba - may help some men with ED by increasing blood flow to the penis. One double-blind trial found improvement in men taking 240 mg per day of a standardized Ginkgo biloba extract (GBE) for nine months. A preliminary trial, involving 30 men who were experiencing ED as a result of medication use (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and other medications), found that approximately 200 mg per day of GBE had a positive effect on sexual function in 76% of the men.
Horny goat weed - has long been used in traditional Asian medicine for people with sexual difficulties. It is almost always prescribed in conjunction with other herbs to improve its efficacy and to prevent side effects. People with kidney failure being treated with dialysis had improved sex drive after taking horny goat weed, compared with a similar group not given horny goat weed.
Damiana (Turnera diffusa) - is a traditional herbal treatment for men with ED. However, no modern clinical trials have confirmed its effectiveness.
Vitamins that may be helpful
Low blood levels of the hormone dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) have been reported in some men with ED. In one double-blind trial, 40 men with low DHEA levels and ED were given 50 mg DHEA per day for six months. Significant improvement in both erectile function and interest in sex occurred in the men assigned to take DHEA, but not in those assigned to take placebo. No significant change occurred in testosterone levels or in factors that could affect the prostate gland. Experts have concerns about the safe use of DHEA, particularly because long-term safety data do not exist.
Dilation of blood vessels necessary for a normal erection depends on a substance called nitric oxide, and nitric oxide formation depends on the amino acid arginine. In a preliminary trial, men with ED were given 2,800 mg of arginine per day for two weeks. Six of the 15 men in the trial were helped, though none improved while taking placebo. In a larger double-blind trial, men with ED were given 1,670 mg of arginine per day or a matching placebo for six weeks. Arginine supplementation was found to be particularly effective at improving ED in men with abnormal nitric oxide metabolism. Although little is known about how effective arginine will be for men with ED or which subset of these men would be helped, available research looks promising and suggests that at least some men are likely to benefit.
In a double-blind study, supplementing with the combination of propionyl-L-carnitine (a form of L-carnitine) and acetyl-L-carnitine (2 grams of each per day) for six months significantly improved erectile function in elderly men with erectile dysfunction associated with low testosterone levels. Propionyl-L-carnitine and acetyl-L-carnitine were significantly more effective than testosterone treatment.
In a double-blind study of men with erectile dysfunction, supplementing with 120 mg per day of Pycnogenol®, an extract of the bark of a certain tree (Pinus pinaster), improved erectile function, whereas placebo treatment had no effect.Believe to Achieve
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12-04-2006, 04:52 AM #3
Horny Goat Weed, Maca Root, and Long Jax are available in a stack from NP
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12-04-2006, 08:05 AM #4
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12-04-2006, 03:16 PM #5
Guys Im just curious, Would it be ok for me to try DHEA? Im only 25, and I from what I have read otherwhere and what I know, my levels should be fine (may have been messed up from all the chemo meds and cortisteroids I had during my cancer time - which was during puberty).
Any thoughts?"....I damn well had a penis cramp (wtf i know, but it happened! ) the other day whilst lifting......not a good feeling i can tell u !! "
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12-04-2006, 03:29 PM #6Originally Posted by ministryofpecsI'm strong 'till the finish, 'cause I eats all me spinach
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12-04-2006, 03:34 PM #7
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12-04-2006, 03:49 PM #8
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At the age of 25 I would not suggest taking DHEA unless your blood work determined that it was needed...highly unlikely.
Test Boosting products would not cause this either so you scratch that off.
A lot of the information that was stated above (Mickfootie) was some good stuff that you should take a look at and research.
Firstly though...erectile dysfunction can also be caused by poor diet and stress. Stress is huge problem for many of us so determine the factor on this one. All the best.Chris Belanger | Vice President, Sales
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12-04-2006, 03:54 PM #9
listen, i do not want you taking ANY SUPPLEMENT for this.
especially in your case. we don't know the type of cancer or your health status. you need to see your physician and see if he can prescribe something in your case. we do not know the EXACT cause of your problem. please see your dr.
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12-04-2006, 04:04 PM #10
tribuloid/ejaculoid/stimuloid stack...
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12-04-2006, 04:41 PM #11
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12-04-2006, 06:09 PM #12
Thanks guys.
Actually to clear things up, I had a Bone Marrow Transplant from a condition that resulted in me having a very very high number of platelets (clotting cells). This caused me to have a partial infarction (miniture stroke) causing tempory numbness, which 99% went away once the blockage was cleared, however this seemed to have caused some damage to the area associated with erections....so I now only have a semi-hard erection which is difficult to maintain.
I had a bone marrow transplant about 6 years ago to remove the underlying condition and are now 100% back to normal apart from the erection problem.
Everything I do I talk to my doctor about, especially when i cycle. I have blood work done weekly.
I was just asking you guys if there was anything you could think that could help me get the edge on the problem. Theres not much that can be done neurologically, but viagra (which I am prescribed) does the trick. The only problem is, I'd like to try herbal or other remedies, so I dont have to rely on popping the pill 30 mins before I "engage" lol
Anything that would help me with that is greatly appreciated and obviously I would talk to my doctor about it.
Thanks again guys!"....I damn well had a penis cramp (wtf i know, but it happened! ) the other day whilst lifting......not a good feeling i can tell u !! "
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12-04-2006, 06:54 PM #13
I hear ya man. It suxs, mate of mine is on Viagra... lol poor guy.. always having to think before having sex at 23...
Alot of guys have hormonal problems these days and dont get them checked at, by the time their 30, theyll all be taking this ****.. such a pity..
Good luck man! Let us know if you find the wonder herb
If your looking for cheap herbs in bulk, holla at me... i know a site u can find 40% trib, 1:100longjack, high extract swedish bee wax and othe herbs which may help you very cheap for bulk... like 1kg amounts for $40-150US
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12-04-2006, 07:55 PM #14
30mg of supplemental zinc, on an empty stomach, should remedy this problem.
Zinc, in my experience, is a far more potent a libido + erection booster than Arginine^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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12-04-2006, 08:05 PM #15
Eat celery,lots of it.This works for me. Celery contains pthalates, which relax the muscles of the arteries that regulate blood pressure allowing these vessels to dilate.Apparently,these pthalates reduce stress hormones and help dilate the blood vessels in the dick,giving a better erection.Good luck.
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12-05-2006, 02:18 PM #16
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12-05-2006, 03:06 PM #17
I dont mean to disrupt this post in any way, but is it possible to combine something with a lot of caffiene like Hydroxycut hardcore with Yohimbe or mica root? because I heard caffiene cancels out the effect of these products. Am I wrong?
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02-12-2012, 07:37 AM #18
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02-24-2012, 12:35 AM #19
I dono a ton of ED OP, but I don't suggest looking into herbs and supplements at a young age. I just suggest taking a holistic approach by trying to live a healthy life, and relaxing a bit. A lot of times it can just be mental, so work on that aspect especially.
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01-02-2018, 04:57 AM #20
According to Brett Gyllenskog Erectile Dysfunction Supps don't work. Try a penis pump.
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01-02-2018, 05:01 AM #21
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