Sleep Troubles.....

Legal250 · 12-02-2006, 04:14 PM

I'm having trouble sleeping lately and was wondering if anyone has tried Melatonin. I went to www.melatonin.com which is obviously bias. Anyone have experience with it? Possible alternatives?

warwithgenetics · 12-02-2006, 04:18 PM

have you given ZMA a try?

warwithgenetics · 12-02-2006, 04:19 PM

i went to the bb.com and obviously your not the only one who wants to try melatonin....it is the top selling sleep aid on bb.com

gymratluke · 12-02-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by warwithgenetics

have you given ZMA a try?

Yeah I highly recommend ON's ZMA...works pretty well for me! Doesnt make me fall asleep as much as it does allow me to stay alseep longer. I seem to sleep more deeply and have these crazy vivid dreams...

warwithgenetics · 12-02-2006, 04:21 PM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mel.html

^^^check that out...hope it helps a bit.

gymratluke · 12-02-2006, 04:23 PM

Here are your alternatives;
Eat lots of turkey at bed time
Take ZMA
Take GABA(not recommended)
Smoke some mary J (my fav)

Drink a glass of wine (another fav)
Find a good sleeping pill (ambien works best for me)

ab-swing asianbabe · 12-02-2006, 04:31 PM

I've been trying Lean Dreams.. I take two caps and KO after about an hour or so

lordsess24 · 12-02-2006, 04:45 PM

haha i have probs sleeping too, i workout late at night and im usualy wired after that.

gymratluke · 12-02-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lordsess24

haha i have probs sleeping too, i workout late at night and im usualy wired after that.

What supps do you take around workout times???

Guard_Pass_old · 12-02-2006, 04:49 PM

I took melatonin but it's not good to take constantly. I take valerian now and again but the effects wear off if you take it too often. ZMA has been the best so far for me...

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Tkenshin · 12-02-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratluke

Here are your alternatives;
Eat lots of turkey at bed time
Take ZMA
Take GABA(not recommended)
Smoke some mary J (my fav)

Drink a glass of wine (another fav)
Find a good sleeping pill (ambien works best for me)

why wouldn't you recommend GABA?

fish153 · 12-02-2006, 05:45 PM

I wouldn't recommend a "sleeping pill" -- if you can, try natural remedies first. True sleeping pills should be a last resort.

Legal250 · 12-02-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratluke

Yeah I highly recommend ON's ZMA...works pretty well for me! Doesnt make me fall asleep as much as it does allow me to stay alseep longer. I seem to sleep more deeply and have these crazy vivid dreams...

I just bought some ZMA. I'll let you know if it works for me. I wouldn't mind the other benefits people claim from ZMA (i.e. strength) either.

Thanks for all the comments.

Any further infomation is still appreciated.

charbar52 · 12-02-2006, 07:24 PM

dont take any sleeping pills to help u sleep first off lay off the cokes and the Mountain dew and the sugar so it wont keep u up at night, u dont need to be drinking that poison anyway. and get some exerisice so when u have a long day u will be tired and go right to sleep.

gymratluke · 12-02-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by charbar52

dont take any sleeping pills to help u sleep first off lay off the cokes and the Mountain dew and the sugar so it wont keep u up at night, u dont need to be drinking that poison anyway. and get some exerisice so when u have a long day u will be tired and go right to sleep.

If only it were that easy son....

warwithgenetics · 12-02-2006, 07:59 PM

good luck bro! hope it works as well for you as it does for me!

Legal250 · 12-02-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by charbar52

dont take any sleeping pills to help u sleep first off lay off the cokes and the Mountain dew and the sugar so it wont keep u up at night, u dont need to be drinking that poison anyway. and get some exerisice so when u have a long day u will be tired and go right to sleep.

Sorry, "cokes and the Mountain dew and the sugar" didn't make into the training diet and supplementation list this time around. Closest I get to caffine and sugar is green tea and splenda. I have always had trouble sleeping and high intensity workouts have only made it worse. Thanks for the advice though.

johnny87 · 12-03-2006, 02:21 AM

ive tried tons of things(nvr any prescription aids tho, dont want to mess with that ish)

For getting to sleep nothing was better then some otc stuff i got at CVS. Sleep aid or something like that. Didnt get addicted and helped me get my sleep schedule back on track.(tried melatonin, didnt work well)

If u just want deep sleep, Powerfull and e-bol both gave me deep sleep and good dreams. (ZMA was ok, not quite as great as those tho)

Legal250 · 12-03-2006, 08:08 AM

So I took ZMA for the first time last night. I fell asleep like two hours later. Thus, it did not knock me out or anything.

However, I must have went into a deep sleep as I only slept 7 hours and woke up feeling very refreshed: especially mentally. For the first time in a long time I did not wake up tired.

I'll post another update after a day or two with any more comments.

How ironic that we must workout, eat, train and schedule properly so that we are able to get to sleep but if you can't get a good nights sleep you can barely do all those other things.

metaldrummer517 · 12-03-2006, 05:08 PM

I would reccoment Natrol Sleep n Restore. You can buy here on bb.com and it works great. Not only does it put you to sleep but it clears free radicals so you wake up feeling more rested.

BiggJohn · 12-03-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fish153

I wouldn't recommend a "sleeping pill" -- if you can, try natural remedies first. True sleeping pills should be a last resort.

Great advice. Try some cardio.

1TAL1ANSTALL1ON · 12-03-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Legal250

I just bought some ZMA. I'll let you know if it works for me. I wouldn't mind the other benefits people claim from ZMA (i.e. strength) either.

Thanks for all the comments.

Any further infomation is still appreciated.

i just finished a bottle of my ZMA nighttime power...it helped me gain about 7-8 pounds and ive noticed a strength gain too. But you might want to consider your sleep troubles due to possible over training? i was going through that **** in the summer and i got nooo rest. hope this helps

**Forge3** · 12-03-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Legal250

I'm having trouble sleeping lately and was wondering if anyone has tried Melatonin. I went to www.melatonin.com which is obviously bias. Anyone have experience with it? Possible alternatives?

Melatonin (sublingual) is good for short periods or less than two weeks no matter what the label says about doing it up to 6 weeks. For some people there is still the possibility for dependence even though this is the exception and not the rule.

scottoo · 12-04-2006, 11:14 AM

i only take the melatonin when i think or know im going to need it, i take some, lay in bed and watch tv with the sleep timer on and i pass out within 45 minutes. before that i always take a hot shower thou and try to get mentally relaxed, write down anything ive got to do the next day, anything on my mind, etc

patrotoc · 12-04-2006, 12:33 PM

I would try ZMA its a good product.

bigwilly501 · 12-04-2006, 01:16 PM

If you want to try Melatonin thats cool but if it doesn't work I would try ZMA good luck.

Legal250 · 12-05-2006, 04:45 PM

Another great night of rest. I'm convinced ZMA is helping with my more restful sleep. Thanks for all the advice!

gymratluke · 12-05-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Legal250

Another great night of rest. I'm convinced ZMA is helping with my more restful sleep. Thanks for all the advice!

What kind did you get? I'm glad its workin well for ya!

Legal250 · 12-05-2006, 05:22 PM

I got the Vitamin Shoppe Brand. I compared it with the ON brand which I was told is a great product and they are almost identical. I have had experience with their brands and trust them.

I caught a cold however so I can not comment on any physical effects yet.

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Originally Posted by gymratluke

What kind did you get? I'm glad its workin well for ya!