Tren Xtreme & Mass Xtreme!!!

[mele421]

Has anyone taken these two? Will they cause depletion of natural testosterone production? Are there any other supps you should take while on them? And when cycling, can you also take Estro Xreme, from the same company (American Cellular Labs), and after the cycle? Thanks for any help.

[my_whey]

Originally Posted by mele421

Has anyone taken these two? Will they cause depletion of natural testosterone production? Are there any other supps you should take while on them? And when cycling, can you also take Estro Xreme, from the same company (American Cellular Labs), and after the cycle? Thanks for any help.

How old are you?

I taken Tren......... and it's ****ing awesome. See my post on it in this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=american

I used Tren more so to cut but I ended up putting up a good amount of mass while losing bodyfat and increasing my strength a TON. This **** seriously works for more strength.

Don't be stupid about it, though. Do research. Take all the Support stuff you would take as if you were using Superdrol or something of that nature. Take the Estro POST cycle along with some trib. Take all the support **** while on cycle. Do NOT stack it with Mass XT... no need too and it may **** you up. Thats like taking SD and Halodrol together. Just a major over kill.

Not too many people know about this product but those who have taken it SMARTLY are always pleased... as was I.

good luck.

[mele421]

Originally Posted by my_whey

How old are you?

I taken Tren......... and it's ****ing awesome. See my post on it in this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=american

I used Tren more so to cut but I ended up putting up a good amount of mass while losing bodyfat and increasing my strength a TON. This **** seriously works for more strength.

Don't be stupid about it, though. Do research. Take all the Support stuff you would take as if you were using Superdrol or something of that nature. Take the Estro POST cycle along with some trib. Take all the support **** while on cycle. Do NOT stack it with Mass XT... no need too and it may **** you up. Thats like taking SD and Halodrol together. Just a major over kill.

Not too many people know about this product but those who have taken it SMARTLY are always pleased... as was I.

good luck.

I'm 18, about 160 lbs. I'm looking to gain about 15 lbs. slowly, so my body can adapt and it will not affect my speed. I play corner at a jc, so that's why I want to add some mass for my advantage. The supps I have taken have been only whey, creatine, glutamine, and a multivitamins, but it has been difficult for me to add lean mass. I need all the help I can get to do this right.

[my_whey]

Originally Posted by mele421

I'm 18, about 160 lbs. I'm looking to gain about 15 lbs. slowly, so my body can adapt and it will not affect my speed. I play corner at a jc, so that's why I want to add some mass for my advantage. The supps I have taken have been only whey, creatine, glutamine, and a multivitamins, but it has been difficult for me to add lean mass. I need all the help I can get to do this right.

1. at 18 years old and 160 pounds you should not even be thinking about taking Tren yet. This is not a easy simple supplement. I've heard plenty of cases where people got gyno from it, loss of sex drive, balls shrinking, ect. If your not smart about it these will happen to you.

2. I read in another thread you were thinking about stacking this with Mass XT from the same company. Another strong product. That is ridiculous and if the Max Muscle owner told you to stack those two products together at a bodyweight of 160 pounds and 18 years old then he is a complete idiot and cares nothing about his customers, just wants the profit.

If you ARE gonna take the tren run the tren for 1 month at 3 pills a day.... take ALL the support stuff you would take while on something like Superdrol. If you do not know of the support things I'm talking about(milk thistle, red yeast rice, ect) then look it up in a search. AFTER your cycle you will need the Estro from the same company, NOT DURING. You also need to invest in some Nolva. This is some strong stuff.

[mele421]

Originally Posted by my_whey

1. at 18 years old and 160 pounds you should not even be thinking about taking Tren yet. This is not a easy simple supplement. I've heard plenty of cases where people got gyno from it, loss of sex drive, balls shrinking, ect. If your not smart about it these will happen to you.

2. I read in another thread you were thinking about stacking this with Mass XT from the same company. Another strong product. That is ridiculous and if the Max Muscle owner told you to stack those two products together at a bodyweight of 160 pounds and 18 years old then he is a complete idiot and cares nothing about his customers, just wants the profit.

If you ARE gonna take the tren run the tren for 1 month at 3 pills a day.... take ALL the support stuff you would take while on something like Superdrol. If you do not know of the support things I'm talking about(milk thistle, red yeast rice, ect) then look it up in a search. AFTER your cycle you will need the Estro from the same company, NOT DURING. You also need to invest in some Nolva. This is some strong stuff.

1. What other supps would you recommend for my specific goals(Lean muscle mass/strength/speed)? I have Animal Stack and the Animal Test from before the ban, but I never got around to taking them because of the side effects.

2. So by just taking Tren alone, I will be able to gain lean muscle mass? I was told to take Tren and Mass to gain lean mass.

3. If I were to take Tren, what supps ans support would you advise me to take? And what about my diet, should I increase my calorie/protein/carb intake? And where can I obtain some Nolva from?

[mele421]

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[mele421]

Originally Posted by mele421

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So....

[brand77]

Originally Posted by mele421

1. What other supps would you recommend for my specific goals(Lean muscle mass/strength/speed)? I have Animal Stack and the Animal Test from before the ban, but I never got around to taking them because of the side effects.

2. So by just taking Tren alone, I will be able to gain lean muscle mass? I was told to take Tren and Mass to gain lean mass.

3. If I were to take Tren, what supps ans support would you advise me to take? And what about my diet, should I increase my calorie/protein/carb intake? And where can I obtain some Nolva from?

You probably aren't going to get a response. Nobody here, myself included, thinks it is a good idea for a 18 year old to take a PH/steroid product. I'll answer your questions:

1) Why not just stick to a protein powder, multivitamin and some fish oil? No they won't make you huge.

2) Of course a person would gain mass from Tren alone. A person at least 21 who has done his homework.

3) You shouldn't take it. Your question about diet convinces me that the reason you are not making lean mass gains is because you are not eating enough. Hopefully you lift weights. Do that and eat more. Hit the nutrition forum. Nolva is a prescription medication and is also available as a research chemical. You should steer clear of that as well.

[thegr81vc15]

don't do it dude. i did them for a week and my balls began hurting liike crazy. and they shrunk. but hey it works i increased weight massively in one week.

[JohnnyBlazin]

[QUOTE=my_whey;12831073] Do NOT stack it with Mass XT... no need too and it may **** you up. Thats like taking SD and Halodrol together. Just a major over kill.
QUOTE]

**** you up in what way? Im curious because i was going to run this stack(same **** different brand), before I jump into the real ****.

[pk16]

your hormone levels at 18 and 19 years of age arnt going to change much from when your 21 or 22. I hate when people say ohhhh your 20 years old. your to young to take this. Give me a break. 18 + in my opinion is fine as long as you know what your doing, your mature enough, and you've done your research. Keep the dose low and follow up with proper PCT and you will be fine. However at 160 pounds i feel like you should concentrate on your diet and training more. You can gain alot more naturally.

Im not exacly sure what tren extreme is but im not a big fan of pro-hormones or any supplement that sounds like a steroid and advertising BS saying it works better then real steroids. Taking real AAS drugs are safer and 10 times more effective and have been backed by decades of research by medical professionals.

Good luck!

[mele421]

Originally Posted by pk16

your hormone levels at 18 and 19 years of age arnt going to change much from when your 21 or 22. I hate when people say ohhhh your 20 years old. your to young to take this. Give me a break. 18 + in my opinion is fine as long as you know what your doing, your mature enough, and you've done your research. Keep the dose low and follow up with proper PCT and you will be fine. However at 160 pounds i feel like you should concentrate on your diet and training more. You can gain alot more naturally.

Im not exacly sure what tren extreme is but im not a big fan of pro-hormones or any supplement that sounds like a steroid and advertising BS saying it works better then real steroids. Taking real AAS drugs are safer and 10 times more effective and have been backed by decades of research by medical professionals.

Good luck!

So, if I do not want to take steroids. Then what would you recommend taking that will help me for football. I'm looking to gain about 15lbs. of lean muscle and get stronger, while increasing speed.

[mele421]

[QUOTE=JohnnyBlazin;13040492]

Originally Posted by my_whey

Do NOT stack it with Mass XT... no need too and it may **** you up. Thats like taking SD and Halodrol together. Just a major over kill.
QUOTE]

**** you up in what way? Im curious because i was going to run this stack(same **** different brand), before I jump into the real ****.

What brand were you going to take?

[norcalsfinest]

plain and simple tren is a prohormone.

want to gain 15lbs?

invest in some cytogainer and some sizeon.

work out 5 days a week heavy weights 4-8 reps, good post recovery meal and you will grow.

i too was very very close to taking some tren, but answer me this question.

are the muscles you gain worth it when you meet a fine chick and she wants sex but u cant get it up?

[pk16]

Originally Posted by mele421

So, if I do not want to take steroids. Then what would you recommend taking that will help me for football. I'm looking to gain about 15lbs. of lean muscle and get stronger, while increasing speed.

Eat lots and lots of food high in protein. Take some creatine mono at 5 grams a day. You dont need any other supplements besides a good multi vitamin. Lift Heavy and train hard and you will get big. For speed, work on alot of plyos, sprints, and do some Dumb Bell Jump Squats. Also really work on your flexibility. This will really help you increase speed. good luck bro.

[JohnnyBlazin]

[QUOTE=mele421;13042689]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBlazin

What brand were you going to take?

BCS

[JohnnyBlazin]

Originally Posted by pk16

Im not exacly sure what tren extreme is but im not a big fan of pro-hormones or any supplement that sounds like a steroid and advertising BS saying it works better then real steroids. Taking real AAS drugs are safer and 10 times more effective and have been backed by decades of research by medical professionals.

Good luck!

These arn't pro-hormones, these ARE steroids, pro-hormones are banned. They were never produced commercially therefor technically never made any banned drugs list. The description of madol in Anabolics 2006 makes it out as a pretty good oral.

[Rage28]

a loy of guys in my town took tren between ages 14 and 20 i knew about 10 poeple on it, most of them seemed fine, but one got bitch tits, that one guy was enough to scare me off, just take x-factor the gains off of it are great

[my_whey]

[QUOTE=mele421;13042689]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBlazin

What brand were you going to take?

American Cellular Labs.

[pk16]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBlazin

These arn't pro-hormones, these ARE steroids, pro-hormones are banned. They were never produced commercially therefor technically never made any banned drugs list. The description of madol in Anabolics 2006 makes it out as a pretty good oral.

Any company selling a product with a similar name to a real steroid is nothing like the real deal. Freakin Tren xtreme isnt even close to real Trenbolone! Its not close to any aas drug as far as gains go and as far as safety goes. All it has is more side effects.

[my_whey]

Originally Posted by pk16

Any company selling a product with a similar name to a real steroid is nothing like the real deal. Freakin Tren xtreme isnt even close to real Trenbolone! Its not close to any aas drug as far as gains go and as far as safety goes. All it has is more side effects.

Tren xtreme from ACL is very close. I tried it myself so I know...... gains in strength were amazing, not to mention I actually gained weight while losing bodyfat.

[mele421]

Originally Posted by my_whey

1. at 18 years old and 160 pounds you should not even be thinking about taking Tren yet. This is not a easy simple supplement. I've heard plenty of cases where people got gyno from it, loss of sex drive, balls shrinking, ect. If your not smart about it these will happen to you.

2. I read in another thread you were thinking about stacking this with Mass XT from the same company. Another strong product. That is ridiculous and if the Max Muscle owner told you to stack those two products together at a bodyweight of 160 pounds and 18 years old then he is a complete idiot and cares nothing about his customers, just wants the profit.

If you ARE gonna take the tren run the tren for 1 month at 3 pills a day.... take ALL the support stuff you would take while on something like Superdrol. If you do not know of the support things I'm talking about(milk thistle, red yeast rice, ect) then look it up in a search. AFTER your cycle you will need the Estro from the same company, NOT DURING. You also need to invest in some Nolva. This is some strong stuff.

1. What other supps would you recommend for my specific goals(Lean muscle mass/strength/speed)? I have Animal Stack and the Animal Test from before the ban, but I never got around to taking them because of the side effects.

2. So by just taking Tren alone, I will be able to gain lean muscle mass? I was told to take Tren and Mass to gain lean mass.

3. If I were to take Tren, what supps ans support would you advise me to take? And what about my diet, should I increase my calorie/protein/carb intake? And where can I obtain some Nolva from?

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[my_whey]

Originally Posted by mele421

1. What other supps would you recommend for my specific goals(Lean muscle mass/strength/speed)? I have Animal Stack and the Animal Test from before the ban, but I never got around to taking them because of the side effects.

2. So by just taking Tren alone, I will be able to gain lean muscle mass? I was told to take Tren and Mass to gain lean mass.

3. If I were to take Tren, what supps ans support would you advise me to take? And what about my diet, should I increase my calorie/protein/carb intake? And where can I obtain some Nolva from?

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1. Protein, creatine, amino's, multi, fish oils, maybe an NO booster..... I see no reason for someone your age and experience to do something like Tren, ect...

2. Yes, Tren alone made me gain 8 pounds of muscle while losing bodyfat, looking a lot more vascular all over and I gained a TON of strength. However, the Mass xtreme is aimed more for bulking then tren... so if bulking and gaining mass is your goal then go with the Mass.

3. All the support supps you would take for Superdrol, take for Tren... do a search for support stuffs to take while on SD. Yes, increase your protein, carbs, ect for maximum gains...

do a search for Nolva.. I do not know off hand where you can get it.

[dtrain13]

Originally Posted by pk16

your hormone levels at 18 and 19 years of age arnt going to change much from when your 21 or 22. I hate when people say ohhhh your 20 years old. your to young to take this. Give me a break. 18 + in my opinion is fine as long as you know what your doing, your mature enough, and you've done your research.

Its not the hormone levels that are of concern when people throw up the 21+ thing you so despise, its the incomplete development of ones endocrine system as well as a potential to stunt anymore growth you may have left by fusing any open growth plates. Also the whole mature enough and doing the research aspect of your post is where the problem lies. I haven't met one that had either in line.

[pk16]

Originally Posted by dtrain13

Its not the hormone levels that are of concern when people throw up the 21+ thing you so despise, its the incomplete development of ones endocrine system as well as a potential to stunt anymore growth you may have left by fusing any open growth plates. Also the whole mature enough and doing the research aspect of your post is where the problem lies. I haven't met one that had either in line.

What im trying to say is that there is not one particular age everyone stops growing at or stops developing at. Its different for everyone. Some people it may be 21 but some people it can be as early as 15 or 16 years old. However you should wait until your atleast 18 regardless of your development. My growth plates were closed my junior year in high school (16 years old).

I do agree with you on the whole mature enough aspect. Again thats why i said atleast 18. And research is a must!!!

[robdawg86]

i now have bitch tits from only half a cycle, which is a bottle and a half of tren xtreme and mass xtreme. i hate my life.

[swoll1]

i have stacked tren and mass xtreme before and the gains were second to steroids. It is a very good stack and there was no ball shrinkage or pain. I have been doing hardcore supplement/steroids for 3 years and its all about how you use them. If you are mature and smart with them and take off cycles then you will be fine. And yes it is important to take clomid during and nolva or something similar for a pct. Be smart with what and how you take

[getsome22]

i was thinking about stacking tren and mass.....what do I need to take with this stack? during? after? what exactly? where can i get all this? is estro xtreme in pct good enough?

[kethen2011]

i recommend it..i went from 175 to 185 in 5 days of taking 3 mass xtreme nd tren xtreme in the morning nd at nite (more than it says to i got a bottle and a half)along with max muscle's maxpro protein nd its the best thing i have ever tried..my bench went up 20 pds in 7 days..never seen anythign like it...my coach and friends saw a change in my size in 5 days...bt if u take it u need to take an estrogen blocker nd liver pills...nd drink plenty of water i drink at least a gallon a day...my friend got hard nipples nd pain is his lower left part of his stomach but after he drank about a gallon of water all of the symptoms went away...bt this is seriously the best stuff i have ever used..nd if u eat rite u will burn fat like crazy too

[kethen2011]

and before any of u pull out the u dnt need anything like this at 16 its stunts ur growth...i didnt touch any of this stuff tell i got hair on my chest..i am dun drowing nd im as hairy as a fourty year old im pretty much dun maturing