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Old 11-25-2006, 10:14 PM   #1
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Me+My Firebird+Lots of Nitrous=On the Bumper Video!

Check it out, wasnt expecting it to hit this hard but it did. This was today at the track.

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Holy ****...what were you timed in at?
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:13 AM   #4
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Holy ****...what were you timed in at?
? What do you mean? The car went 9.50 before I did the new nitrous upgrade
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That is amazing...


RWHP?

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Time on Nitrous Run?

Could you Pull the Tires Before the Nitrous?

Holy ****....

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Old 11-26-2006, 04:53 PM   #6
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Its a Forged Lower Stock Cubic Inch. I could get them up but not this high! LOL!

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RWHP?

Mods?

Time on Nitrous Run?

Could you Pull the Tires Before the Nitrous?

Holy ****....

Reps for a BADASS car!
Its a Heads and Cam LS1 Stock Cubic Inch, with a Upgraded NX kit with a Stand alone fuel system. It made 300 on motor(Setup for nitrous) and made 703 with a 250 shot!
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Check it out, wasnt expecting it to hit this hard but it did. This was today at the track.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...84012e99c8.htm

i seriously doubt that is your car and i seriously doubt you have any association with outlaws. You cant even answer a basic question, you give an engine descrip from the vid link.... nice try
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Its a Heads and Cam LS1 Stock Cubic Inch, with a Upgraded NX kit with a Stand alone fuel system. It made 300 on motor(Setup for nitrous) and made 703 with a 250 shot!
What did you do drill the jets out? lol

I find it hard to believe you picked up around 400 with a 250 shot. Please explain the upgrade in "upgraded nx kit".

And 300 on a H/C LS1 is another flag.
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What did you do drill the jets out? lol

I find it hard to believe you picked up around 400 with a 250 shot. Please explain the upgrade in "upgraded nx kit".

And 300 on a H/C LS1 is another flag.


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What did you do drill the jets out? lol

I find it hard to believe you picked up around 400 with a 250 shot. Please explain the upgrade in "upgraded nx kit".

And 300 on a H/C LS1 is another flag.
You find it hard to believe? What is so hard if its a full out nitrous car?

What key factors are in a motor car? Usually 2, a Big Gear and a Big Converter. Technically you will lose HP this way too on the dyno because your converter is so loose that it has all the power "Slipping" through. Now when you get into a nitrous setup depending on how much you spray you have a really "tight" converter that is because when you hit it with a large amount of juice you dont want it to flash high in the RPM and throw it past your redline. Then a smaller gear since your making more power, faster, and your doing it in a quicker time.

Now have you ever seen a nitrous car run? Take for example a Super Street Outlaw Car in NRMA they will go consitant 7.60-90s on spray yet when they run on motor they only go in the 10 second range. Do you know what the HP difference is on that?


My car is setup for nitrous meaning that it is geared with a small gear and a very tight converter, it has barely any timing in it and 3 step colder plugs. Now what do you think is going to happen when I put this thing on the dyno? Its going to make NO POWER! Basically it made the same power as a Stock LS1 with bolt ons. Now since it is setup for spray it is going to eat it up like its going out of style. So on motor my car went 11.30s consistant, and on spray went 9.55s consistant. So look whats happening on spray its making more power because it is setup for it.

Now say I put the hottest plug back in it, up the timing 10-12 degrees I bet you I can make another 30-60HP if I was going to run it on motor.

When I posted on here I made it basic because most guys wont know what the **** im talking about.

But I can go into detail.

You are correct I have no association with "Outlaws" I am however the owner of Outlaw Motorsports www.outlawhp.com

Why I made so much more power then before is because NOS kit I was spraying 250 which was their rated HP, the only thing is, that is rated at the Flywheel which when it gets to the rear wheel it will probably be only around 195-210hp. I was taking fuel off the stock fuel rail for this kit. I put a stand alone which means, a fuel system that is seperate from the stock one only for the nitrous and I upgraded to a NX system. Now what is the difference besides me spraying 250 vs 300 now? NX rates their kits to the Rear Wheel, so that 300 is 300 to the rear wheel where it would probably be 350+ to the flywheel. So do you understand now?

Also my car is a Heads and Cam car because I only have forged pistons in my car at the same compression rating. All they are is a stronger metal.


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It's possible to pick up that much if you have a dedicated nitrous motor (as it seems the OP does). If the cam, convertor and rear gear are set up for nitrous then it will be a pig on motor. Once using nitrous, the sum is greater than the parts, so to speak. Nice car.
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You find it hard to believe? What is so hard if its a full out nitrous car?

What key factors are in a motor car? Usually 2, a Big Gear and a Big Converter. Technically you will lose HP this way too on the dyno because your converter is so loose that it has all the power "Slipping" through. Now when you get into a nitrous setup depending on how much you spray you have a really "tight" converter that is because when you hit it with a large amount of juice you dont want it to flash high in the RPM and throw it past your redline. Then a smaller gear since your making more power, faster, and your doing it in a quicker time.

Now have you ever seen a nitrous car run? Take for example a Super Street Outlaw Car in NRMA they will go consitant 7.60-90s on spray yet when they run on motor they only go in the 10 second range. Do you know what the HP difference is on that?


My car is setup for nitrous meaning that it is geared with a small gear and a very tight converter, it has barely any timing in it and 3 step colder plugs. Now what do you think is going to happen when I put this thing on the dyno? Its going to make NO POWER! Basically it made the same power as a Stock LS1 with bolt ons. Now since it is setup for spray it is going to eat it up like its going out of style. So on motor my car went 11.30s consistant, and on spray went 9.55s consistant. So look whats happening on spray its making more power because it is setup for it.

Now say I put the hottest plug back in it, up the timing 10-12 degrees I bet you I can make another 30-60HP if I was going to run it on motor.

When I posted on here I made it basic because most guys wont know what the **** im talking about.

But I can go into detail.

You are correct I have no association with "Outlaws" I am however the owner of Outlaw Motorsports www.outlawhp.com

Why I made so much more power then before is because NOS kit I was spraying 250 which was their rated HP, the only thing is, that is rated at the Flywheel which when it gets to the rear wheel it will probably be only around 195-210hp. I was taking fuel off the stock fuel rail for this kit. I put a stand alone which means, a fuel system that is seperate from the stock one only for the nitrous and I upgraded to a NX system. Now what is the difference besides me spraying 250 vs 300 now? NX rates their kits to the Rear Wheel, so that 300 is 300 to the rear wheel where it would probably be 350+ to the flywheel. So do you understand now?

Also my car is a Heads and Cam car because I only have forged pistons in my car at the same compression rating. All they are is a stronger metal.


Finally information, that's all I was asking for. Nothing I don't already know Ive played with several nitrous cars, not at the level you are at, but it does actually make your post actually believable now. If you actually posted even 1/4 of what you just wrote the first time I wouldn't of questioned anything.

"When I posted on here I made it basic because most guys wont know what the **** im talking about." There are enough guys that do, you should know that from any car post made here by now.

I find it hard to belive that you were shocked that people questioned if that was really you. Anway good luck with the car.
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It's possible to pick up that much if you have a dedicated nitrous motor (as it seems the OP does). If the cam, convertor and rear gear are set up for nitrous then it will be a pig on motor. Once using nitrous, the sum is greater than the parts, so to speak. Nice car.
Yup if it is setup for Nitrous it will be a complete turd on motor.

Just to prove a point heres what it left like on motor with the trans brake.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4c01393d51.htm

Now here is my old nitrous setup on the trans brake.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4c016f17a1.htm
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