protein in the whites? or in the yellow? what should i eat
(boiled)
|
Thread: eggs
-
11-23-2006, 05:44 PM #1
-
11-23-2006, 06:13 PM #2
-
11-23-2006, 06:28 PM #3
-
11-23-2006, 06:34 PM #4
-
-
11-23-2006, 06:38 PM #5
-
11-23-2006, 08:02 PM #6
-
11-23-2006, 08:21 PM #7
-
11-23-2006, 08:24 PM #8
-
-
11-23-2006, 08:27 PM #9
-
11-23-2006, 08:31 PM #10
-
11-23-2006, 08:31 PM #11
-
11-23-2006, 08:46 PM #12
- Join Date: Nov 2006
- Location: California, United States
- Age: 45
- Posts: 833
- Rep Power: 230
Originally Posted by theMZA
Please read the stickies and do some search for such basic questions. Its important to get the nutrition basics right. I wont elaborate further.Wt: 170 lbs BF: ~20% H: 5'9''
Currently cutting: Goal 150 lbs by March 2008
My blog: http://kartikjayaraman.blogspot.com
For Desis (Desi Fitness and health): http://www.desifitness.com
-
-
11-23-2006, 08:46 PM #13
-
11-23-2006, 09:49 PM #14
-
11-23-2006, 11:18 PM #15
- Join Date: Apr 2006
- Location: Binghamton, New York, United States
- Age: 34
- Posts: 7,879
- Rep Power: 8244
Ahahahahaha my main meal consists of 3-4 eggs. Id say I eat about 8-12 eggs a day, sometimes only 6.
My breakfast is always 3 eggs scrambled in the microwave, 1/2 cup oatmeal, and some milk...
I used to be afraid of the yolks like whoa but I said **** it because of my low income budget, it's just a waste of protein and such y'know? Plus I'm bulking and all, and I could give'a hell about the cholesterol...I believe I've shattered that theory, even though Ive already read up on it etc etc.
So eat the damn yolks up, but beware, your farts are gonna wreck havoc upon your households noses....(mine are ughhhhhhhhhh)www.youtube.com/flexxinator
www.3dmusclejourney.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/nattytalk
-
11-23-2006, 11:54 PM #16
-
-
11-24-2006, 12:02 AM #17
-
11-24-2006, 12:08 AM #18
- Join Date: Jan 2004
- Location: Florida, United States
- Age: 41
- Posts: 235
- Rep Power: 2143
Originally Posted by Evian
True story but cholesterol is equally used to form other steroid hormones as well, such as cortisol which mobilizes amino acids from proteins in muscle, thus breaking down muscle. (just FYI)
Yolks are OK, I wouldn't overdo it though. I eat at least 12 hard boiled egg whites and 2-4 yolks/day.
-
11-24-2006, 12:14 AM #19
-
11-24-2006, 12:15 AM #20Originally Posted by OhioUstud
So yeah, too much of a good of a thing is bad.
But just watch out, if you have high blood pressure and stuff like that, then eat less egg yolk, otherwise it's OK to consume egg yolk because egg yolk contains other essential vitamins as well.
-
-
11-24-2006, 12:27 AM #21
- Join Date: Jan 2004
- Location: Florida, United States
- Age: 41
- Posts: 235
- Rep Power: 2143
Originally Posted by Evian
That's not true. It has the same effect on cellular protein reduction regardless of the concentration. Just think about when you workout for a long time or run; your muscle begins to break down because of corisol.
"One of the principal effects of cortisol on the metabolic systems of the body is reduction of the protein stores in essentially all body cells except those of the liver. This is caused by decreased protein synthesis and increased catabolism of protein already in the cells. The probable mechanism of action is depression of the formation of RNA and subsequent protein synthesis in many extrahepatic tissues, especially in muscle and lymphoid tissue." - Guyton and Hall Textbook of Medical Physiology, 11th edition, p 952.
In high levels of cortisol, it has an anti-inflammatory effect. The gluconeogenesis effect is inherent in cortisol.
In high doses of cortisol, the reduction in cellular protein is amplified, to the extent that the person cannot rise from the squatting position.
-
11-24-2006, 12:32 AM #22
- Join Date: Jan 2004
- Location: Florida, United States
- Age: 41
- Posts: 235
- Rep Power: 2143
BTW the body releases cortisol via adrencorticotropic hormone (ACTH) (from anterior pituitary gland) via corticotropin releasing factor (CRF) (from the hypothalamus) which is the body's response to stress.
The body will always try to return to homeostasis so if you are starving or exercising (stress), the body releases cortisol to fight that, mobilizing amino acids and fatty acids so that they can be converted to glucose in this time of need.Last edited by OhioUstud; 11-24-2006 at 12:37 AM.
-
11-24-2006, 12:33 AM #23
-
11-24-2006, 12:55 AM #24
-
-
11-24-2006, 12:58 AM #25
-
11-24-2006, 05:47 AM #26Originally Posted by OhioUstud
What? Cortisol is released during workouts? I've never read about that but I'm aware about it's circadian cycle which is brought about by ACTH which peaks during the night so that the blood's glucose level remains constant while you're asleep (because you don't eat when you sleep). Anyway, when cortisol is at pharmacological doses it causes proteolysis, then amino acids are released and the glucogenic amino acids will undergo gluconeogenesis to increase the blood glucose level. Thus causes muscle wasting in hypersecretion/pharmacological doses of cortisol.
Anyway, while working out, it's Growth Hormone that's increased.
Back to the topic, just eat whole whole damn egg.
-
11-24-2006, 08:24 AM #27
- Join Date: Jan 2004
- Location: Florida, United States
- Age: 41
- Posts: 235
- Rep Power: 2143
Originally Posted by Evian
HOly Cow that textbook review must have new findings that have not yet been introduced to the rest of the medical community!!!!!
Growth hormone is also elevated in exercise but that's beside the point. Cortisol is released while you workout and any type of mental or physical stress. It is also released in a circidian cycle based on your sleep patterns.
Again, it is not at pharmacological doses. This is soo basic of a concept that I can't believe you're still trying to defend it. Please, by all means, show me a reference that says that cortisol is not released during exercise or stress.
Pharmacological doses? Lol wtf. It always occurs when cortisol is released. That's what you get for just reading the review and not the whole text.
Glucocorticoids cause rapid mobilization from their cellular energy stores, making them immediately available both for energy and synthesis of other compounds ---- when might this immediate energy be necessary??????? hmm maybe in some sort of situation where someone is sweating and working. .....???Last edited by OhioUstud; 11-24-2006 at 08:48 AM.
-
11-24-2006, 04:34 PM #28
-
-
11-24-2006, 06:22 PM #29
-
11-24-2006, 06:28 PM #30
Bookmarks