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Old 11-21-2006, 11:42 PM   #1
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I want to know the likes and dislikes of the powerblocks from people who have used them. Please enlighten me. I am thinking of buying them.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:47 AM   #2
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for the likes--- they are compact, easy to change weight(for drop sets), upgradable to 130lbs if you get the elite set.

I don't know about the dislikes though.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:00 AM   #3
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Search this forum, this question has been asked many times.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:21 PM   #4
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I love the space saving aspect and how easily you can change the weight. I don't like the retail price for the base models and the upgrades as compared to Ironmaster dumbbells. The adder weights can cause a bit of imbalance but you get used to them.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:32 PM   #5
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ironmaster are cheaper, less weird as far as holding it goes, and they're a lot more durable. I say go with them but if you're still not sure search forums topics been brought up many times.
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I am selling my powerblocks elite 90lb set and recevied my ironmasters yesterday (still in boxes tho).

Powerblocks are nice, but lkmited in type of movements you cn do.
Wrist curls and stuff are difficult.
Also do not work very well with power hooks.
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I would go with Powerblock Elites. Superfast changeout on weight selection like a selectorized weight stack. Unique grips can be grabbed in multi positions with one or 2 hands. They are also alot more durable than people give them credit for. They can be dropped(from about a foot off the ground), but lets be real here, you shouldnt just be dropping dumbells that can weigh up to 130lbs anyway.

Ironmasters aren't all that great. Slow changeout(which you WILL FIND becomes a royal pain in the ass with them)makes them useless on pyramiding and supersets.

If you can afford the Powerblocks, then get em.
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I'd like to hear your experience with the Ironmaster after using the Powerblocks.

I'm also trying to decide between the two.
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I have the Ironmasters and don't really like them I wish I would have purchased the Powerblocks. The Ironmasters are slow to change the weights, Inserting the Pin through the weight plates is not always a smooth operation because the plates have very loose tolerances so the holes don't always line up. I've also had the plates fall off the stand and on to the floor while trying to change the weight, big problem if your in a finished room cause it would damage the floor. I do think the ironmasters are well made but the tolerances are not tight enough and they are just to slow and cumbersome compared to the powerblocks. If I had to do it again the powerblocks are what I would have even if they are more expensive.
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I'd like to hear your experience with the Ironmaster after using the Powerblocks.

I'm also trying to decide between the two.
Ive used Ironmasters myself. Not in the same class as Powerblock Elite's at all. See my reasoning above.
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Ive used Ironmasters myself. Not in the same class as Powerblock Elite's at all. See my reasoning above.

I agree totally the Powerblocks are simply a better product with a better design. They are also machined and not cast like the Ironmasters so they are far more accurate in weight. I totally regret buying the Ironmasters and once I find Powerblocks at a good price I will sell my Ironmasters.
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Ok, think I will go with the Powerblock Elite 90lb set.

So...what color stand do you guys prefer? Grey or white?
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Ok, think I will go with the Powerblock Elite 90lb set.

So...what color stand do you guys prefer? Grey or white?
Go with grey that seems to be the color most power racks are comming in.
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I agree totally the Powerblocks are simply a better product with a better design. They are also machined and not cast like the Ironmasters so they are far more accurate in weight. I totally regret buying the Ironmasters and once I find Powerblocks at a good price I will sell my Ironmasters.
Try using power hooks or doing wrist curls with powerblocks.
I just sold mine and got the iron Masters.

While the powerblocks are certainly a more polished product, their are limitations with them and they are not for everyone.

I would not have sold them for the Ironmasters if I didn't have to.

They just didn't work for me.

Funny how Powerblocks seem a bit more popular the ironmaster here. @ Johnstonefitness, Ironsmasters are WAY more preferred over powerblocks.
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Try using power hooks or doing wrist curls with powerblocks.
I just sold mine and got the iron Masters.

While the powerblocks are certainly a more polished product, their are limitations with them and they are not for everyone.

I would not have sold them for the Ironmasters if I didn't have to.

They just didn't work for me.

Funny how Powerblocks seem a bit more popular the ironmaster here. @ Johnstonefitness, Ironsmasters are WAY more preferred over powerblocks.
Actually Ironmasters are popular on this forum. I read all the previous threads when I purchased mine and almost all the reviews were positive. Look I'm not saying the Ironmasters are a bad product, the're just not as fast and well crafted as the powerblocks. You get what you pay for and this is a perfect example. Maybe if the Ironmasters costed a little more they could machine the plates thereby making the pins slide through the plates more smoothly and causing the plates to be more accurate in weight. I actually hate changing the weight on my Ironmasters so much that I bought a set of rubber coated dumbells from 2.5-40lbs so I only have to use the Ironmasters for higher weight. As far as the limitations of the Powerblocks, both the Ironmasters and the Powerblocks have excercises that you can do with one and not the other. In the end the Powerblocks are a better executed product, this is of course my opinion but since I own the Ironmasters and have used them for a while I think it should carry some weight.
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Try using power hooks or doing wrist curls with powerblocks.
I just sold mine and got the iron Masters.

While the powerblocks are certainly a more polished product, their are limitations with them and they are not for everyone.

I would not have sold them for the Ironmasters if I didn't have to.

They just didn't work for me.

Funny how Powerblocks seem a bit more popular the ironmaster here. @ Johnstonefitness, Ironsmasters are WAY more preferred over powerblocks.
I would have to say from personal experience there are more limitations with the ironmaster dumbells. Wrist curls may be the only limitation with the powerblocks. But at the same time, the powerblock 3 point support grip is also an advantage too. And can allow you to go heavier with some movements without your wrists or forarms being the limiting factor.

And for wrist curls I still prefer a traditional 4 ft. olympic bar over dumbells.
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I would have to say from personal experience there are more limitations with the ironmaster dumbells. Wrist curls may be the only limitation with the powerblocks. But at the same time, the powerblock 3 point support grip is also an advantage too. And can allow you to go heavier with some movements without your wrists or forarms being the limiting factor.

And for wrist curls I still prefer a traditional 4 ft. olympic bar over dumbells.
I agree I seem to keep better form with a bar instead of dumbells when doing wrist curls.
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I agree totally the Powerblocks are simply a better product with a better design. They are also machined and not cast like the Ironmasters so they are far more accurate in weight. I totally regret buying the Ironmasters and once I find Powerblocks at a good price I will sell my Ironmasters.
Interesting... when did you buy the IRonmasters? I believe at one time they made a different dumbbell (same concept) but have since improved on it tremendously. This is the first time I've heard it being difficult to "line up" the weight plates. Perhaps you have the old version?
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They do "Machine " the plates.

Read the site it clearly states it.

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http://www.ironmaster.com/store/cust...s.php?pageid=6

Here are the top 10 reasons Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are better than other adjustable dumbells:
1. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are rugged. The handles are made out of solid steel with welded construction. The weight plates are precision machined iron. They can be used hard dropped without damage. Others are fragile and can break if dropped since they contain light duty and plastic materials. This may not be covered in their warranty. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbbells carry Lifetime Warranty against breakage!

2. Others are limited in the exercises you can do with the restricted access to the handles. They will bind your wrist in some motions! Ours are wide open like a traditional dumbell and allow unlimited exercises.

3. Others use a pin assembly or tiny cams to hold the weights. These can wear and loosen up over time and pins can fall out during use making them dangerous. Ours are held together with a super heavy duty 1" dia. threaded screw mechanism. Once tightened, they will not loosen during use since the plates are locked into the handle backing plates and can't spin. Plate change is quick and simple. Ironmaster dumbells do not rattle or feel loose. In fact they work and feel like a solid fixed weight style dumbell.

4. Our full size storage rack is included as part of the dumbell system.

5. We offer an Add On Kit for the 75lb Quick-Lock Dumbells to go up to 120lbs each! The included rack accepts this kit and it can be added later at any time. The kit is very simple to use.

6. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are less expensive than most other adjustable dumbbells!

7. Our dumbbell handles are chrome plated, knurled steel just like traditional dumbells. No rubber or foam grips to wear out or harbor bacteria.

8. Our Risk Free Guarantee: Try our equipment in your home for 30 days and if you are not satisfied, return the equipment and we will immediately give you a full refund including all shipping charges. (Out of country purchases excepted) If you decide to return your equipment, contact Ironmaster within 30 days to ask for return authorization. We take all the risk so you don't have to!

9. Ironmaster has been the leader in home weightlifting equipment for more than 25 years! Over 1/3 of our sales come from customer referrals. This is due to our superior product design and quality, but also because of our very personal customer service. Customer satisfaction is our top priority!

10. We have had many customers buy our dumbbells after owning other brands of dumbells because they were too restrictive and do not offer a true dumbell feel.

11. Don't forget about the Dumbell Bench. It is a vital part to setting up a good gym. Our new Super Bench is more adjustable than other Multi Benches, faster to adjust, lighter weight, more space efficient, offers more attachments and is less expensive.
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They do "Machine " the plates.

Read the site it clearly states it.

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http://www.ironmaster.com/store/cust...s.php?pageid=6

Here are the top 10 reasons Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are better than other adjustable dumbells:
1. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are rugged. The handles are made out of solid steel with welded construction. The weight plates are precision machined iron. They can be used hard dropped without damage. Others are fragile and can break if dropped since they contain light duty and plastic materials. This may not be covered in their warranty. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbbells carry Lifetime Warranty against breakage!

2. Others are limited in the exercises you can do with the restricted access to the handles. They will bind your wrist in some motions! Ours are wide open like a traditional dumbell and allow unlimited exercises.

3. Others use a pin assembly or tiny cams to hold the weights. These can wear and loosen up over time and pins can fall out during use making them dangerous. Ours are held together with a super heavy duty 1" dia. threaded screw mechanism. Once tightened, they will not loosen during use since the plates are locked into the handle backing plates and can't spin. Plate change is quick and simple. Ironmaster dumbells do not rattle or feel loose. In fact they work and feel like a solid fixed weight style dumbell.

4. Our full size storage rack is included as part of the dumbell system.

5. We offer an Add On Kit for the 75lb Quick-Lock Dumbells to go up to 120lbs each! The included rack accepts this kit and it can be added later at any time. The kit is very simple to use.

6. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are less expensive than most other adjustable dumbbells!

7. Our dumbbell handles are chrome plated, knurled steel just like traditional dumbells. No rubber or foam grips to wear out or harbor bacteria.

8. Our Risk Free Guarantee: Try our equipment in your home for 30 days and if you are not satisfied, return the equipment and we will immediately give you a full refund including all shipping charges. (Out of country purchases excepted) If you decide to return your equipment, contact Ironmaster within 30 days to ask for return authorization. We take all the risk so you don't have to!

9. Ironmaster has been the leader in home weightlifting equipment for more than 25 years! Over 1/3 of our sales come from customer referrals. This is due to our superior product design and quality, but also because of our very personal customer service. Customer satisfaction is our top priority!

10. We have had many customers buy our dumbbells after owning other brands of dumbells because they were too restrictive and do not offer a true dumbell feel.

11. Don't forget about the Dumbell Bench. It is a vital part to setting up a good gym. Our new Super Bench is more adjustable than other Multi Benches, faster to adjust, lighter weight, more space efficient, offers more attachments and is less expensive.
I agree with you bluerain ironmasters ARE better for the above stated reasons. Plus I have been told that there is an upgrade kit for the ironmasters up to 160 if you call them and soon maybe a 200 each dumbbell for the REALLY heavy lifters. They seem like better dumbbells have you had any experience with them?
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Interesting... when did you buy the IRonmasters? I believe at one time they made a different dumbbell (same concept) but have since improved on it tremendously. This is the first time I've heard it being difficult to "line up" the weight plates. Perhaps you have the old version?
I just bought them a couple of months ago and yes they are the current version. Also it's not that the plates are hard to line up, it's that when I insert the pin through the plates the pin often times binds up on the plates

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They do "Machine " the plates.

Read the site it clearly states it.

Blue
http://www.ironmaster.com/store/cust...s.php?pageid=6

Here are the top 10 reasons Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are better than other adjustable dumbells:
1. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are rugged. The handles are made out of solid steel with welded construction. The weight plates are precision machined iron. They can be used hard dropped without damage. Others are fragile and can break if dropped since they contain light duty and plastic materials. This may not be covered in their warranty. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbbells carry Lifetime Warranty against breakage!

2. Others are limited in the exercises you can do with the restricted access to the handles. They will bind your wrist in some motions! Ours are wide open like a traditional dumbell and allow unlimited exercises.

3. Others use a pin assembly or tiny cams to hold the weights. These can wear and loosen up over time and pins can fall out during use making them dangerous. Ours are held together with a super heavy duty 1" dia. threaded screw mechanism. Once tightened, they will not loosen during use since the plates are locked into the handle backing plates and can't spin. Plate change is quick and simple. Ironmaster dumbells do not rattle or feel loose. In fact they work and feel like a solid fixed weight style dumbell.

4. Our full size storage rack is included as part of the dumbell system.

5. We offer an Add On Kit for the 75lb Quick-Lock Dumbells to go up to 120lbs each! The included rack accepts this kit and it can be added later at any time. The kit is very simple to use.

6. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are less expensive than most other adjustable dumbbells!

7. Our dumbbell handles are chrome plated, knurled steel just like traditional dumbells. No rubber or foam grips to wear out or harbor bacteria.

8. Our Risk Free Guarantee: Try our equipment in your home for 30 days and if you are not satisfied, return the equipment and we will immediately give you a full refund including all shipping charges. (Out of country purchases excepted) If you decide to return your equipment, contact Ironmaster within 30 days to ask for return authorization. We take all the risk so you don't have to!

9. Ironmaster has been the leader in home weightlifting equipment for more than 25 years! Over 1/3 of our sales come from customer referrals. This is due to our superior product design and quality, but also because of our very personal customer service. Customer satisfaction is our top priority!

10. We have had many customers buy our dumbbells after owning other brands of dumbells because they were too restrictive and do not offer a true dumbell feel.

11. Don't forget about the Dumbell Bench. It is a vital part to setting up a good gym. Our new Super Bench is more adjustable than other Multi Benches, faster to adjust, lighter weight, more space efficient, offers more attachments and is less expensive.
They do not "machine" the plates I know I have the dumbells. Also if you call ironmaster they will tell you that they are cast and anyone who has eyes and a brain can tell they are cast. The only part they machine is the top of the weight plate using a lathe.
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They do "Machine " the plates.

Read the site it clearly states it.

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Here are the top 10 reasons Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are better than other adjustable dumbells:
1. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are rugged. The handles are made out of solid steel with welded construction. The weight plates are precision machined iron. They can be used hard dropped without damage. Others are fragile and can break if dropped since they contain light duty and plastic materials. This may not be covered in their warranty. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbbells carry Lifetime Warranty against breakage!

2. Others are limited in the exercises you can do with the restricted access to the handles. They will bind your wrist in some motions! Ours are wide open like a traditional dumbell and allow unlimited exercises.

3. Others use a pin assembly or tiny cams to hold the weights. These can wear and loosen up over time and pins can fall out during use making them dangerous. Ours are held together with a super heavy duty 1" dia. threaded screw mechanism. Once tightened, they will not loosen during use since the plates are locked into the handle backing plates and can't spin. Plate change is quick and simple. Ironmaster dumbells do not rattle or feel loose. In fact they work and feel like a solid fixed weight style dumbell.

4. Our full size storage rack is included as part of the dumbell system.

5. We offer an Add On Kit for the 75lb Quick-Lock Dumbells to go up to 120lbs each! The included rack accepts this kit and it can be added later at any time. The kit is very simple to use.

6. Ironmaster Quick-Lock Dumbells are less expensive than most other adjustable dumbbells!

7. Our dumbbell handles are chrome plated, knurled steel just like traditional dumbells. No rubber or foam grips to wear out or harbor bacteria.

8. Our Risk Free Guarantee: Try our equipment in your home for 30 days and if you are not satisfied, return the equipment and we will immediately give you a full refund including all shipping charges. (Out of country purchases excepted) If you decide to return your equipment, contact Ironmaster within 30 days to ask for return authorization. We take all the risk so you don't have to!

9. Ironmaster has been the leader in home weightlifting equipment for more than 25 years! Over 1/3 of our sales come from customer referrals. This is due to our superior product design and quality, but also because of our very personal customer service. Customer satisfaction is our top priority!

10. We have had many customers buy our dumbbells after owning other brands of dumbells because they were too restrictive and do not offer a true dumbell feel.

11. Don't forget about the Dumbell Bench. It is a vital part to setting up a good gym. Our new Super Bench is more adjustable than other Multi Benches, faster to adjust, lighter weight, more space efficient, offers more attachments and is less expensive.

All of Ironmasters points are easily countered.


1. They are rugged, but so are Powerblocks. Powerblocks can withstand a drop from about 2 feet up. But lets be real here............you shouldnt just be dropping weights...........Powerblocks also have an anodized aluminum handle upgrade over their rexan handle, which will take any serious beating.

2. The wide open handle has very few advantages. What can you really do other than single handed curls? Which IMO are pretty useless compared to doing barbell wrist curls anyway which actually force your wrists to work harder to properly balance a long olympic bar.

Also Powerblocks unique 3 point braced handle allows you to go heavier than you normally could go without fear of forarm failure.

3. The screw mechanism is a big problem IMO. It takes too long to change out weights, making ironmasters useless for true supersets, pyramiding up or down.

The Powerblocks "selectorized" magnatized pin WILL NOT fall out when correctly inserted rightside up. The minute you lift the weight the pin locks down by the magnet and by the actual weight of the block itself. Anyone who has powerblocks will know its next to impossible to pull the pin once the weight is in your hand. And doing supersets and pyramiding weights is just as fast if not faster than even individual dumbells.

4. Dont need a "full sized storage" unit to house all those weight plates with Powerblocks. Dont need any storage at all in fact.

5. Powerblocks come in 5-50, 5-90 and 5-130 sets and trumps the ironmasters here as well. In fact Powerblock is coming out with a 170 lb big block add on as well. Ironmaster IS NOT.

6. Yep Ironmasters are cheaper. But cost isnt an issue to everyone. Maybe for teenage kids with a limited budget or a low income individual, otherwise its a useless issue.

7. I personally prefer the grips on the powerblocks. The hardened foam has yet to wear out or even show wear, and mine are 3 plus years old. Regardless it doesnt matter, as they are under a 10 year warrenty anyway, and can be easily replaced in less than 5 minutes.

8. Pretty standard, lots of places have 30 day money back garentees.....a gimmick point at best.

9. More balogny, every company states something to this nature....blah blah blah.......

10. Blah blah blah, more sales jargon......

11. Please, their superbench is garbage compared to a good quality FID bench, and its not easier or quicker to adjust than to a bench like the Lamar LS513 or BodySolid GFID71, and its nowhere near as sturdy. A heavy sturdy bench is what you want. Not some lightweight POS.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:49 PM   #25
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I have the powerblocks 90lb kit. Overall, VERY happy with the purchase.

Most of the advantages can be found with a simple search on this forum, but briefly: space saving, upgradeable, durable, etc.

Disadvantages would include:
You can't drop them (as stated above you shouldn't be dropping dumbbells)
Inserting the pin doesn't line up 100% of the time. BUT this doesn't happen enough to call it to much of a disadvantage.

I've never had a problem doing wrist curls with them. I had the opportunity to test out both the ironmaster set and powerblocks side by side. I choose the powerblocks. Again just a personal perference "thing", others may prefer the ironmaster set.

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the point

The whole point of powerblocks is the quick change. Time is money. Shorter workouts.
Powerblocks is just a pin to change weight.

The ironmasters you have to remove and add plates. You midis well have Olympic style dumbbell bars with Olympic plates at a fraction of the price.

Which is better? From a time conserving perspective definitely the powerblocks. And that is the main concern while buying adjustable dumbbells right? which I would not even consider ironmasters to be in the same ballpark.
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The whole point of powerblocks is the quick change. Time is money. Shorter workouts.
Powerblocks is just a pin to change weight.

The ironmasters you have to remove and add plates. You midis well have Olympic style dumbbell bars with Olympic plates at a fraction of the price.

Which is better? From a time conserving perspective definitely the powerblocks. And that is the main concern while buying adjustable dumbbells right? which I would not even consider ironmasters to be in the same ballpark.
Actually, the point is to save space, not quick channge.
Quickest way to change is to have dumbbells in 5lb increments and all you do is pick up a new one.
It appears you have no experience with either product.

Ironmasters are FAR quicker to change then olympic dumbbell handles ( I have had both at ghome), but not as quick as Powerblocks (which I also had). The reel dumbbell feel is night and day w/ ironmaster vs powerbloxck (and olympic handles for that matter).
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:49 PM   #28
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Actually, the point is to save space, not quick channge.
Quickest way to change is to have dumbbells in 5lb increments and all you do is pick up a new one.
It appears you have no experience with either product.

Ironmasters are FAR quicker to change then olympic dumbbell handles ( I have had both at ghome), but not as quick as Powerblocks (which I also had). The reel dumbbell feel is night and day w/ ironmaster vs powerbloxck (and olympic handles for that matter).
No, Powerblocks pro's are both for quick change and space savers as they do change out just as quickly as putting down a set of dumbells and picking up another pair.

And hate to say it, but ironmasters are no faster at weight changeout than olympic dumbell handles with nylon quick lock clamps.
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I have the powerblocks 90lb kit. Overall, VERY happy with the purchase.

Most of the advantages can be found with a simple search on this forum, but briefly: space saving, upgradeable, durable, etc.

Disadvantages would include:
You can't drop them (as stated above you shouldn't be dropping dumbbells)
Inserting the pin doesn't line up 100% of the time. BUT this doesn't happen enough to call it to much of a disadvantage.



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Actually you CAN drop the powerblocks, but the warrenty will be voided if damage occurs from dropping them higher than one foot off the ground. But in reality they are tough as nails, Ive dropped mine a couple times from well over 2 feet off the ground, they came out just fine. I really scoff when morons try and bring up the point that you can drop Ironmasters without damage, but not so with powerblocks. Its a load of crock. But whats an even bigger load of crock is that people shouldnt be dropping dumbells from significant heights regardless of the fact. Part of the workout is controlling your barbell or dumbell weight the entire time you lift them.
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Also Powerblocks unique 3 point braced handle allows you to go heavier than you normally could go without fear of forarm failure.
out of curiosity, what exercises do you reach "forearm" failure with that the PBs help you avoid?

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people shouldnt be dropping dumbells from significant heights regardless of the fact. Part of the workout is controlling your barbell or dumbell weight the entire time you lift them
I guess you've never done farmer's walks, huh?

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3. The screw mechanism is a big problem IMO. It takes too long to change out weights, making ironmasters useless for true supersets, pyramiding up or down.
supersetting/drop setting is definitely the realm of the PB. I think we have a different definition of pyramiding though.

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Powerblock is coming out with a 170 lb big block add on as well. Ironmaster IS NOT.
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6. Yep Ironmasters are cheaper. But cost isnt an issue to everyone. Maybe for teenage kids with a limited budget or a low income individual, otherwise its a useless issue.
oh, nice. For what you spent for your 130-lb aluminum PowerBlocks and stand, I got the 170-lb IMs, the stand, an adjustable bench and a power rack with chinup attachment.

"useless issue" indeed.

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7. I personally prefer the grips on the powerblocks. The hardened foam has yet to wear out or even show wear, and mine are 3 plus years old. Regardless it doesnt matter, as they are under a 10 year warrenty anyway, and can be easily replaced in less than 5 minutes.
I can see how that would be an advantage. I'd much rather use hardened foam than iron. again,

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11. Please, their superbench is garbage compared to a good quality FID bench, and its not easier or quicker to adjust than to a bench like the Lamar LS513 or BodySolid GFID71, and its nowhere near as sturdy. A heavy sturdy bench is what you want. Not some lightweight POS.
oh wow, you have a serious hardon for that company man. "lightweight POS" indeed...it didn't feel like a "lightweight POS" when I did weighted chinups and dips from it using the corresponding attachments (which I didn't buy) it's significantly faster on the adjustment than anything and it's quite popular. Don't even need to bend over to adjust, but whatever. You obviously have never used this. If PowerBlock pays you to do their "public relations" on the message boards, I sincerely hope THEY have a 30-day, money-back guarantee on your employment. Either that, or the owner of IronMaster stole your girlfriend
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