Just wondering if boiling hot water "destroys" protein powder (does it destroy the nutitional protein content?)
If not, I was thinking of mixing it into my oatmeal just to give it a chocolate taste. I got the idea from the muscle milk oatmeal pre-prepared bowls where you just add boilding water. I would buy the muscle milk things but at around $5 a pop, i'd prefer to just try it with the powder I have.
So, if it okay to mix oatmeal with my PVL whey and add boiling water? Or will the boiling water somehow "destroy" the nutritional value of the powder.
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Is it okay to mix protein powder into my oatmeal?
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11-19-2006, 12:59 AM #12Originally Posted by NO HYPE
Noone seems to be worried about damaging the protein in whole foods by cooking them. What makes it an issue with whey?
11-19-2006, 03:57 AM #13Originally Posted by Nick29
What do you think denaturation means?
When denaturation occurs.... most proteins lose their biological functions.
Denatured protein is the alteration of a protein (in this case, via extreme temperatures), in such a way that it will no longer aquire the ability to carry out it's cellular function.
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11-20-2006, 03:44 PM #16
In most cases denatured proteins are much more easily absorbed by the body than raw proteins, such as eggs, animal meats, and beans (I'm guessing on the beans).
I wonder if milk proteins such as whey get denatured as part of the extraction process? If that is the case, boiling whey protein for a few minutes shouldn't hurt them.I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
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I learned what not to do...I put a scoop of GNC Strawberry Whey on my instant oats, mixed it up, and threw it in the microwave. F'n terrible! The protein wadded up into a gluey mass and it tasted like crap. Like chewing on rubber. It took everything I could do to not throw up.
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11-21-2006, 09:12 AM #20
I love Oats+Whey, my best method is cook the oats in the micro, using less water than I normally would, until they are about to "puff over". Pull'em out and then a bunch of cinnamon then pour a little cold water on top, then stir like a mad man. Then, scoop your Whey on top and pour more cold water over the whey. This cools the oats, so you dont burn your mouth and keeps your whey from getting to hot, and dissolves the whey so it stirs in much better.
Other good things to add are, coco powder, frozen fruit, or ice cubes to really cool the oats down fast."Stimulate, don't Annihilate."
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11-21-2006, 09:16 AM #21Originally Posted by NO HYPE
Amino acids are absorbed free form via enzymatic action or protein/peptides. Unless you're taking about injesting functional peptides such as dietary enzymes why does the loss of biological function matter as long as 1° structure remains intact?BLAP BLAP BLAPB APBLAP PLAB BAPB BP@P BLAPL APBLL LBAP
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11-21-2006, 12:57 PM #23Originally Posted by Blap Blaow
Yeah, and were you aware of the fact that there are various degrees of denaturation?
Thermal denaturation can initiate irreversible alteration of various protein molecules.
Do you know what this irreversible alteration does to the protein molecule?.... it renders it's cellular function useless.
Would the consumer even realize it?.... No.
Does that mean that it doesn't happen?.... No.
Does this mean that the consumer won't still be getting some viable protein out of what wasn't damaged?.... No.
11-21-2006, 02:43 PM #24Originally Posted by NO HYPE
There have been a few studies done that relate to this discussion. Some have found that cooking reduces the amount of protein in meat/fish by a couple percent. But, there are others that have found that cooking things like meat/fish increase the biological value of the food's protein. I haven't seen any studies that investigated heating protein supplements like whey. Regardless, I highly doubt you'll lose more than a few tenths of a gram of protein by adding whey to cooked oatmeal. That's not nearly enough to justify not doing it IMO.
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