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    Sushi, considered a cheat meal?

    How is sushi rated? Is it considered a good meal, because I know its a lot better than any other fast food or junk food. So is it rich in protein or a good meal to have, or just considered another cheat meal?
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    is a very good question, some of the best questions ive ever read. You will have an answer shortly from someone who cares to explain it to you.
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    Sushi is the food of Gods.
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    Originally Posted by LPA
    How is sushi rated? Is it considered a good meal, because I know its a lot better than any other fast food or junk food. So is it rich in protein or a good meal to have, or just considered another cheat meal?
    Depends on what you get. The fake crab meat that is used in a lot of rolls is bad, and of course there are a lot of carbs in the rice. Men's Health called the california roll a "sugar cube."

    If you want to eat sushi, just eat the sashimi. Pure protein. Good for you.

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    California Roll
    The upside: The seaweed it's wrapped in contains essential nutrients, such as iodine, selenium, calcium, and omega-3 fats.
    The downside: It's basically a Japanese sugar cube. That's because its two other major components are white rice and imitation crab, both of which are packed with fast-digesting carbohydrates and almost no protein.
    The healthy alternative: Real sushi made with tuna or salmon. These varieties have fewer bad carbohydrates, while providing a hefty helping of high-quality protein. Better yet, skip the rice, too, by ordering sashimi.
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    id go with sashimi too i believe japanese rice are sweetened and make sure u get real meat
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    depends. I get the brown rice sushi with avacado and shrimp, so its GREAT for me!
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    yea anything with white rice like that should be considered cheat.

    sashimi on the other hand is pure protein, but its kind of an expensive form of protien and you really dont get a whole lot per serving.

    if your going to have sushi just go all out and enjoy it as a weekly cheat meal or something along those lines.
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    White rice isn't THAT bad. I would never consider sushi a "cheat", unless you eat it in excess.
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    Originally Posted by Struct09
    White rice isn't THAT bad. I would never consider sushi a "cheat", unless you eat it in excess.
    I think this white rice 'scare' across the boards is overrated. Sure, brown/wild rice is better, but white rice is nothing to be afraid of.
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    white rice and brown rice are essentially the same but the brown rice is a more complete carb, with more fiber. they are essentially interchangeable depending on your tastes. any rice should be avoided during a strict cut supposedly.
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    Originally Posted by boyscouT
    Sushi is the food of Gods.
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    Seriously, just pay attention to the amount you're eating and you'll do fine. Sushi rice is lightly sweetened, but has no more sugar than most sausage. The carbs in white rice are not that much higher than brown - though with brown rice you get more fiber.

    I do prefer sashimi for the most part, but really think you'd have to eat a lot of sushi for it to be problematic.
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    if white rice is bad im screwed, i eat about 5-6 bowls of white rice a day
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    Originally Posted by bulkingup79
    if white rice is bad im screwed, i eat about 5-6 bowls of white rice a day
    Heh...me too. Sushi is a great meal but at times hard to calculate calories. I feel if you are worried about that then just get some sashimi and ease up on the soy sauce.
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    "white rice and brown rice are essentially the same"

    Incorrect. (courtesy wiki)

    Brown rice and white rice have similar amounts of calories, carbohydrates, fat and protein. The difference between the two lies in processing and nutritional content. If the outermost layer of a grain of rice (the husk) is removed, the result is brown rice. If the husk and the bran layer underneath are removed, the result is white rice. Several vitamins and dietary minerals are lost in this removal and the subsequent polishing process. A part of these missing nutrients, such as B1, B3, and iron are sometimes added back into the white rice making it "enriched", as food suppliers in the US are required to do by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). One mineral that is not added back into white rice is magnesium; one cup of cooked long grain brown rice contains 84 mg of magnesium while one cup of white rice contains 19 mg.

    When the bran layer is removed to make white rice, the oil in the bran is also removed. A recent study has shown that rice bran oil may help lower LDL cholesterol.

    Among other key sources of nutrition lost are fatty acids and fiber.
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    Originally Posted by Struct09
    White rice isn't THAT bad. I would never consider sushi a "cheat", unless you eat it in excess.
    Sushi rice isn't just white rice. It's very high glycemic rice, plus sushi rice has sugar added.
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    Yep, for sushi rice, they throw in rice wine vinegar, some salt, water and sugar.
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    I wouldn't eat sushi during a cut, but during a bulk sushi is fine.

    I don't know why everyone thinks that eating high-GI carbs leads to immediate fat. This is such a false method of thinking.

    Eat up the sushi but remeber that calories in vs calories out is the key to fat gain or loss.
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    Sushi is good for you if you can find good sushi but that is very hard to find.
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    Originally Posted by LPA
    How is sushi rated? Is it considered a good meal, because I know its a lot better than any other fast food or junk food. So is it rich in protein or a good meal to have, or just considered another cheat meal?
    i wouldnt, to me it is a very clean source of lean protein
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    I've made the rice by itself before, and (going from memory) the dressing uses rice vinegar, corn starch, and sugar. So, it's not entirely clean, but sushi is certainly better than fast food.
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    Originally Posted by EMISGOD
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    unless you eat a bunch of california rolls of course thats gonna be hell of a cheat; but if you go simple like tuna, salmon, shrimp (maki's my fav.) it will be a balanced meal IMO..
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    Originally Posted by bluedevil1400
    Sushi is good for you if you can find good sushi but that is very hard to find.
    What do you mean by "good?"
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    Originally Posted by Kermy
    What do you mean by "good?"
    None of that imitation crab meat or sashimi
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    Technically it is, because cheat meals are about exceeding your daily macronutrient ratios or total intake for the day. However, it is probably a real good cheat, where you wont have to worry about nasty trans fats, etc.

    HOWEVER, make sure you get REAL sushi, from an actual sushi house or japanese cuisine, not the kind at dominicks or from china buffet (Some chinese buffets have it hand made, others use prepackaged crap)
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    Originally Posted by obloxeon
    None of that imitation crab meat or sashimi
    Sashimi is not really considered "sushi" however it is still good for you from a food nutrition standpoint. As far as consuming raw fish, thats your opinion.
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    sashimi for the win!

    it's always a good plan for me on 'no' or low carb days (cyclical diet).

    i'm also lucky to have a sushi joint in my area that makes brown rice sushi upon request.

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    if you can afford enough sushi to consider making it a cheat meal then my hat is off to you. As far as cheats go it is WAY better for you than pizza, fast food or most other convienence items. I'd put it in the same boat as "mom's cooking" which means it isn't overly bad for you but at the same time it isn't the cleanest thing in the world. 2-3 times a month isn't going to make or break you.
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    Not a Cheat

    I don't consider sushi a cheat at all. I eat Sushi Tuna Rolls made with Brown Rice. Below is the nutritional information for four pieces of the sushi I eat:

    4 Pieces, approximately 140 g:

    140 Calories
    2 g Fat
    0.5 g Saturated Fat
    10 mg Cholesterol
    105 mg Sodium
    23 g Carbohydrates (5 g from Sugar)
    3 g Fiber
    13 g Protein

    If the above is a cheat it is news to me. Could someone please let me know what they think about the above and if they think it's a cheat or not?
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    Originally Posted by Kermy
    Depends on what you get. The fake crab meat that is used in a lot of rolls is bad, and of course there are a lot of carbs in the rice. Men's Health called the california roll a "sugar cube."

    If you want to eat sushi, just eat the sashimi. Pure protein. Good for you.

    Edit: From Mens Health

    California Roll
    The upside: The seaweed it's wrapped in contains essential nutrients, such as iodine, selenium, calcium, and omega-3 fats.
    The downside: It's basically a Japanese sugar cube. That's because its two other major components are white rice and imitation crab, both of which are packed with fast-digesting carbohydrates and almost no protein.
    The healthy alternative: Real sushi made with tuna or salmon. These varieties have fewer bad carbohydrates, while providing a hefty helping of high-quality protein. Better yet, skip the rice, too, by ordering sashimi.
    Originally Posted by shabong000
    I don't consider sushi a cheat at all. I eat Sushi Tuna Rolls made with Brown Rice. Below is the nutritional information for four pieces of the sushi I eat:

    4 Pieces, approximately 140 g:

    140 Calories
    2 g Fat
    0.5 g Saturated Fat
    10 mg Cholesterol
    105 mg Sodium
    23 g Carbohydrates (5 g from Sugar)
    3 g Fiber
    13 g Protein

    If the above is a cheat it is news to me. Could someone please let me know what they think about the above and if they think it's a cheat or not?
    Thanks for the info guys x2 repped...

    Originally Posted by boyscouT
    I think this white rice 'scare' across the boards is overrated. Sure, brown/wild rice is better, but white rice is nothing to be afraid of.
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