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    Creatine Estel Ether Vs. Creatine Gluconate

    I,ve read alot about about creatine but i'm confused whether to buy CEE or

    Creatine Gluconate. I've tried CreaPure b4 but i'd like to use different type of

    creatine this time. so can any1 elaborate on creatine Gluconate specially

    when compared to CEE in terms of effectivness and disadvantages.

    In scale of 1 to 10 how much would you give each type and i'd like to konw if

    they is any other type of creatine that deserves better rankin than these 2

    types of creatine. I'm just trying to get an opinion

    thanx guys.

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    Well Gaspari did a study comparing Size On (which is creatine gluconate and creatine monohydrate along with a host of other things including fibrous carbs) vs CEE (with simple Carbs). In this Study Size On performed better.

    Now that I said that realize all that probably differentiates these different salts and esters of creatine is solubility . Now the solubility only affects gut absorption of creatine not muscle absorption. I do hear creatine gluconate is pretty soluble though. For muscle absorption of creatine insulin and more importantly insulin sensitivity is needed.

    So the upshot of what I am saying to you is don't worry about the exact type of creatine as long as it sufficiently soluble (regular monohydrate is soluble enough at low doses).

    What matters more is all the other stuff in a creatine formula.
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    I've had better results with EE(Cellmass) than gluconate(sizeon). Plus SizeOn made me have to go to the bathroom 10 minutes after I took it. Like a taco bell burito for example.
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    Originally Posted by Phosphate bond
    What matters more is all the other stuff in a creatine formula.
    thanx guys but im not talking about SizeOn & Cellmass.

    im talking about straight bulk CEE vs. straight bulk creatine gluconate
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    Originally Posted by ksa-muscle
    thanx guys but im not talking about SizeOn & Cellmass.

    im talking about straight bulk CEE vs. straight bulk creatine gluconate
    Get the creatine gluconate because it tastes better.
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    I feel a good question is what happens to the byproducts after absorption. You are left with a creatine molecule and then what?
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    Originally Posted by deserusan
    I feel a good question is what happens to the byproducts after absorption. You are left with a creatine molecule and then what?
    Good point Deserusan.
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    Originally Posted by ksa-muscle
    thanx guys but im not talking about SizeOn & Cellmass.

    im talking about straight bulk CEE vs. straight bulk creatine gluconate
    I have used both. CEE at 2g a day for several months and I have been using creatine gluconate for about 6 weeks.

    CEE: Pros- by far the best form of creatine I have ever used. I even had several guys at work ask me if I was taking steroids. Full muscles with no bloat. I made moderate gains in lean mass that were steady.

    Cons- the major thing with CEE is that it made my kidneys hurt like hell. I made sure I drank a gallon of water everyday and I also took cranberry capsules. It taste horrible but since only 2g a day is needed you can cap it or 2g of powder isn't much to choke down.

    Creatine Gluconate: Pros- all the benefits of creatine without the bloat. Mixes well and has almost no taste. Does not make my kidneys hurt.

    Cons- I wish it worked as well as CEE.

    I plan to keep using Creatine gluconate to give my kidneys a break from CEE. I am only going to use CEE during the summer months when I want to look my best. I plan to buy a tub of SIZE ON because their carb "Outlast" interests me.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan
    I feel a good question is what happens to the byproducts after absorption. You are left with a creatine molecule and then what?
    Yeah, I'll take glucose over ethanol.
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    Originally Posted by Phosphate bond View Post
    Get the creatine gluconate because it tastes better.
    Never tried CEE, but Gluconate is practically tasteless, and not at all nasty.

    Originally Posted by DevilSmack View Post

    Creatine Gluconate: Pros- all the benefits of creatine without the bloat. Mixes well and has almost no taste. Does not make my kidneys hurt.

    Cons- I wish it worked as well as CEE.

    I plan to keep using Creatine gluconate to give my kidneys a break from CEE. I am only going to use CEE during the summer months when I want to look my best.
    Iv never used CEE. Only Mono and an entire 300gm tub didnt do much for me.

    Started Gluconate last week.... GreenMag preworkout and Whey+ 1 tsp Gluconate postworkout. Should I take the Gluconate postworkout or on OFF days ??

    Originally Posted by DevilSmack View Post
    Yeah, I'll take glucose over ethanol.
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