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[fish153]

Okay, Thanks Tara I will buy some cottage cheese tomorrow and try them So if I use chocolate Whey then it will taste chocolate like?

Yes.

[h@rdc0re]

Okay, Thanks Fish

[cathryn]

That sounds delicious...let me know how they turn out, Ashley!

I used to do a lot of protein bars but I just do some nuts/Kashi/low-carb yogurt mix now...the protein bars can make you hungrier after the sugar spike wears off

[h@rdc0re]

That sounds delicious...let me know how they turn out, Ashley!

I used to do a lot of protein bars but I just do some nuts/Kashi/low-carb yogurt mix now...the protein bars can make you hungrier after the sugar spike wears off

Okay, Thank You Cathryn So you mix Kashi cereal with yogurt and nuts? I should try that. Right now I mix all bran with yogurt

[h@rdc0re]

Okay, Heres what I ate today and did today

meal one
2 eggs - 140 calories
2 slices rye bread - 140 calories
1 1/2 cup yogurt - 140 calories
1/2 cup all bran - 90 calories

meal two(pre workout)
1 scoop whey
300 ml 2% skimmed milk
260 calories

meal three(post workout)
1 scoop whey
300 ml 2% skimmed milk
260 calories

meal four
2 slices rye bread
1 slice swiss
veggies
3 oz turkey meat
500 calories

meal five
1 scoop whey
300 ml 2% skimmed milk
260 calories

1,780 calories consumed
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Activity
Dancing for 20 minutes - 200 calories burned
Walking for 30 minutes to and from the gym - 150 calories burned
Weightlifting including abdominal workout(1 hour) - 350 calories burned
20 minutes on the eliptical - 230 calories burned
TOTAL: 930 calories burned

[fish153]

You're still doing a little too much cardio activity. Don't forget, more is not better, even when you're cutting. The goal is to eliminate excess body fat while maintaining muscle -- if you do too much cardio, you will be doing the exact opposite.

[h@rdc0re]

Kay guys. I managed to take some pictures but I will have better ones when I can get someone to actually take them for me lol. So this is all I got for now but I think you can tell I am putting on some muscle, I appologise for the crappy lighting and stuff.

[twinnett]

Calories still look a little low...it's hard to tell from those pics..could you get someone else to take some of you? I still don't think you look like you need to be cutting..

[h@rdc0re]

Thanks hun. But last night my boyfriend looked at my arms and he's like, your muscles are getting bigger than mine and he told me it was kinda weird and he's like. "you should cut" So I uno ... I will get him to take some when I see him okay

[twinnett]

Sounds like he's insecure to me...my husband doesn't want me to look like a figure competitor..too bad I say! It's YOUR body! Maybe you should tell him to bulk up!

[fish153]

And the Hoodia appetite suppressant ... man, Ashley, you sure you want to go that direction again? Isn't that how you got into the eca stack and why you went into detox?

Why do you need the appetite suppressant? Food isn't your enemy, and it's just as important during an "1800 calorie cut" as it is during a bulk.

[h@rdc0re]

Sounds like he's insecure to me...my husband doesn't want me to look like a figure competitor..too bad I say! It's YOUR body! Maybe you should tell him to bulk up!

Thank Hun lol. I brought him to my gym once cause he was bragging about how he could bench 250 and so I told him to start at 200 not 150 and he couldnt even bench it and so he ended up dropping it and if it werent for me it wouldbve probly hurt him cause then it would have just landed on his chest. So he kinda feels weak from that and I told him I want muscle and that I dont care what he wants because its my body and I dont think my muscles are "that big" to be grossed out about. Just a little bit of muscle, you know? I guess guys are weird that way sometimes :\ lol.

Fish - I know what your saying but Ive read womens profiles who do wayy more exercise than I do and they consume between 1,100-1,400 calories per day! Now 1,800 seems about right if I space these meals out throughout the day.

[h@rdc0re]

And the Hoodia appetite suppressant ... man, Ashley, you sure you want to go that direction again? Isn't that how you got into the eca stack and why you went into detox?

Why do you need the appetite suppressant? Food isn't your enemy, and it's just as important during an "1800 calorie cut" as it is during a bulk.

I just want something to help supress my appetite that is SAFE. I wouldnt have had a problem with Epehdrine if it hadnt been so dangerous. I want something safe. Im always hungry lol. I am always wanting to eat. I have always been that way.

[fish153]

I just want something to help supress my appetite that is SAFE. I wouldnt have had a problem with Epehdrine if it hadnt been so dangerous. I want something safe. Im always hungry lol. I am always wanting to eat. I have always been that way.

What about eating a lot of small meals throughout the day? There's nothing wrong with food or eating during your cut. You're certainly burning enough calories to justify your hunger.

[h@rdc0re]

Okay, Right now Im eating 5. So maybe I could eat 6 during my cut.

Thnx Fish

[fish153]

Okay, Right now Im eating 5. So maybe I could eat 6 during my cut.

Thnx Fish

You don't need to set a specific number ... for me, and I know this sounds bad, but I have to eat pretty much all day - little snacks and things (healthy things) because it keeps my blood sugar more even, etc.

Just remember that you want to take in enough calories to keep your body working and that you want to be sure you get enough protein as well because during a cut you don't want to lose the muscle you've put on.

[nc9892]

Hey buddy, just noticed your journal around after a long time of not being here, so I thought I'd stop by to see how things are going.

Im always hungry lol. I am always wanting to eat. I have always been that way.

I sure know how this is. Eat 200 calories of nuts more. That's an easy 6th meal included somewhere throughout the day. Come on friend, I KNOW you can handle 2000. When you're twenty you've got to scarf it down!

The nuts will help your hunger.

Peace

[twinnett]

You're hungry b/c you need the calories w/ the amount of activity you're doing. You're not really eating 5 meals, b/c 3 of them consist on protein powder. Eat real food and you won't be as hungry. You need more fat too. That will help with hunger. you do NOT need an appetite suppressant!!!!

:end rant:

[h@rdc0re]

Fish - Thanks hun I actually think your idea is good to have a few healthy snacks like yogurt and nuts or something, to keep your metabolism going quick etc, So I actually think thats a good idea

nc9892 - Thanks I am planning on having a protein shake before bed and maybe some salad with basalmic vinegar

Tara - Thanks hun! I agree, I usually count the protein shakes as meals and I shouldnt, Now that I think about it, They arent really real food. You know? So how many meals of real food should I have? Maybe four?

[twinnett]

Hmmm...there are posts missing...???

[spirit3530]

Please don't start cutting again. Your going to mess up your metabolism again. It looks like your body is better than before. Either set the camera on a timer or get your boyfriend to snap the pics. Its interesting that you are showing pics were you are kinda covered up but in your gallery you are much less clothed. Ashley YOU ARE NOT READ TO CUT YET. Increase the fats and eat grapefruit it has a natural ability to suppress extra fat production in the body. DON'T cut. Your boyfriend needs to eat a burger or something if your arms are bigger than his. You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to but I am telling you that you are going to set yourself back if you do this.


I don't even know why I bother...

[h@rdc0re]

Please don't start cutting again. Your going to mess up your metabolism again. It looks like your body is better than before. Either set the camera on a timer or get your boyfriend to snap the pics. Its interesting that you are showing pics were you are kinda covered up but in your gallery you are much less clothed. Ashley YOU ARE NOT READ TO CUT YET. Increase the fats and eat grapefruit it has a natural ability to suppress extra fat production in the body. DON'T cut. Your boyfriend needs to eat a burger or something if your arms are bigger than his. You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to but I am telling you that you are going to set yourself back if you do this.


I don't even know why I bother...

Okay Spirit. I know what your saying. And all your advice means so much because your so knowledgeble and your photos are amazing and I feel honored having you post in my journal. And I am not cutting yet, I will be in April just for summertime. But I just added a cup of all bran and 1 cup 2% milk cause I was so hungry ... Thats 1,870 calories consumed. Should I still add the protein shake before bed, consisting of 300 calories?

[twinnett]

Please listen to Spirit!

[h@rdc0re]

Thanks Tara I ate so far pretty good, I will keep the protein shake then bumping me up in the 2,200 calories =)

[twinnett]

You posted a thread yesterday about cutting at 1100 calories???? I hope that you're not still planning that! How much do you weight right now? There just doesn't seem to be anything to cut! Do you know what your bodyfat is?

[h@rdc0re]

Thanks Tara. And my body fat is 15% and I weigh 117 lbs. Should I still continue to bulk

[spirit3530]

Thanks Tara. And my body fat is 15% and I weigh 117 lbs. Should I still continue to bulk

yes keep bulking

[nc9892]

Thanks Tara. And my body fat is 15% and I weigh 117 lbs. Should I still continue to bulk

what would you tell me if I asked you that same thing at 130?



Keep on truckin' buddy

[fish153]

Thanks Tara. And my body fat is 15% and I weigh 117 lbs. Should I still continue to bulk

YES, keep bulking. I think if you read our previous posts, you'll see that pretty much everyone has been suggesting that for you.

[h@rdc0re]

Okay thanks everyone

Heres what I ate today Im pretty happy

meal one
2 eggs + 2 slices whole wheat toast
1 cup yogurt + 1/2 cup all bran
580 calories

meal two(Pre Workout)
Protein shake
300 calories

meal three(Post Workout)
Protein Shake
300 calories

meal four
2 slices honey raisin bread(small, thin slices)
1 tsp peanut butter and less than 1 tsp margarine
230 calories

meal five
2 slices rye bread sandwich with 1 slice swiss and turkey meat
Small salad with basalmic vinegar
560 calories

meal six
Protein Shake
300 calories

TOTAL: 2,270 calories consumed

Activity
1 hour, weightlifting - 400 calories burned
20 minutes, cardio - 200 calories burned
30 minutes, dancing - 200 calories burned

800 calories burned total