Tribulus is worthless!

[ozzygold]

I was sad to read Tribulus is the top seller for natural test. boosters on bb.com.
This article didnt have much to say about Tribulus....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Citation

Dont waste your money!

[raysmith]

I hope teenagers see this.

[RWelborn7]

Good find. I wish it told how old the subjects were, as tribulus supposedly works better for older people. The dose also seems low compared to what a lot of people take. Just the same though reps for you.

[bonbon]

1. Not mentioned what kind of tribulus is used.
2. 3.21 mg per kg body weight daily is like 321mg/day for a 100kg man. No wonder it did nothing.

Im not saying here if tribulus does something or not. I´m just saying that this study is worth nothing

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by ozzygold

I was sad to read Tribulus is the top seller for natural test. boosters on bb.com.
This article didnt have much to say about Tribulus....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Citation

Dont waste your money!

This is true, it didn't have much to say about tribulus, but it didn't say much at all. I really would like to see the full text of the study but just going off of the abstract and saying tribulus is a waste of money is sort of misleading.

On that note, I have found that human studies are quite lacking.

I did a research paper in school on MHP's T-Bomb II (which contains tribulus), if you want to, read it see below.

For teenagers, your T levels are so high right now anyways that you really don't need anything like tribulus or any other test boosting supplement for that matter.

For older adults, it may be of benefit.

(i can't get the attachments to work, i will post them later)

[Macrobolic]

I got the attachment to work, here you go.

[Nailbomb9]

That's OLD news man. Some people choose to ignore science and listen to companies propaganda.

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by Nailbomb9

That's OLD news man. Some people choose to ignore science and listen to companies propaganda.

If you are referring to my post, it isn't company propaganda, this is research I did at my university and found my articles using pubmed and other search engines. Also, all but one of my studies came after 2000.

[Nailbomb9]

Originally Posted by BrettCorless

If you are referring to my post, it isn't company propaganda, this is research I did at my university and found my articles using pubmed and other search engines. Also, all but one of my studies came after 2000.

How did you get that from my post? Tribulus sucks...there are MANY studies that can be found on the web proving so. BUT...muscle magazines have companies that put out outrageous adds about such products as Trib products and thus kids believe it. Just like MT's add that has the "Freak'" transformation when he decided to come back. You think they didn't know he was going to be using gear????? Of course they did, thus they signed him and stated that he uses their products(showing his crappy before pics, and then his updates pics) which he was. But everyone knows the gear is repsonsible for 95% of his transformation.

[mattp10]

Originally Posted by bonbon

1. Not mentioned what kind of tribulus is used.
2. 3.21 mg per kg body weight daily is like 321mg/day for a 100kg man. No wonder it did nothing.

Im not saying here if tribulus does something or not. I´m just saying that this study is worth nothing

Well said. i used to chew down those things like candy, taking like 5 grams a day when i was 17. holy **** ive never been so HORNY, and AGGRESSIVE, in my life.
and yes it did help in the gym, however id say tribilus has little to do with strength, if your pissed off in the gym, youll push more out. and it sure did work.
not a mental thing either, i tried it on another 1 of my friends and he noticed it too. i used MRM's tribustak or whatever, its potent in terms of the protodioscin things.

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by Nailbomb9

How did you get that from my post?...

Just cause it was right after mine, That's why i said "If you are referring to my post...". My bad.

[LordHalbert]

If you want test, take test.

Nuff said

[the phenom]

i have taken ultimate nutrition tribulus bulgarian 750mg a pill, and have notice hypertension in the way u react when hormones are present. i took 1 pill a day for three days and got to hyper, i notice that i had to be doing something or else i would go nuts. maybe it's just me, because i've been known to react to alot of stuff quickly most than other people, but even if u don't feel anything this stuff is working inside you.

[5Six]

I just want to expand off what bonbon said.

1. 321 mg/day is nothing for a 100 kg man. If I recall correct the usual dosage is about ~2500 mg/day depending on body weight.

2. It doesn't mention at all how the study was conducted. Was it a double blind study where the researcher and the test subjects had no idea who was taking what. Or maybe it was a single blind study where the researcher knows what the subjects are taking.

If it was a single blind study then. There is a large body of evidence that shows that the researcher can influence the outcome of a study without not even telling the testers. Just by suggestiveness and communcation.

3. Was 15 subjects enough to get a good end result. What sort of population was the test subjects? Were they experienced weight lifters, or people new to the weight lifting.

4. What sort of exercise did they do? How frequent was it.

5. It's a single study also. Chances are that you can find a single study to support the answer your looking for. But to help conclude if something is worth taking and you want the scientific research behind it. Examine what the WHOLE body of evidence has to say. Also look toward more reputable peered review journals such as New England Journal

[Soulfrost]

After I switched to use Dymatize Tribulus-650, I gained 7 lbs of muscle in about a month. Pretty good result for a worthless product, isn't it? So, I don't care a bit about what some study is saying, because I feel great on every workout, and am much stronger, too.

[RB12]

Originally Posted by Soulfrost

After I switched to use Dymatize Tribulus-650, I gained 7 lbs of muscle in about a month. Pretty good result for a worthless product, isn't it? So, I don't care a bit about what some study is saying, because I feel great on every workout, and am much stronger, too.

how long have you been training before adding this product? did you change your diet at all? did you add any other supps at all? did you change any timing of anything?

excuse my skepticism, but to claim that any product short of gear added 7lbs of lbm in 3 weeks is absolutely outlandish

[Soulfrost]

The last time I made a break from training was in October of '05. I'm pretty much using the same supplements year round, and the only thing that was changed in last 5 weeks (not 3 weeks as you said) was that I switched my Tribulus from Biotech to Dymatize, and added 5 grams of Glutamine to my post-workout shake, as well as before bedtime. I upped my poundages, feel energized, and that's about everything.

[Vipersg123]

Originally Posted by Soulfrost

After I switched to use Dymatize Tribulus-650, I gained 7 lbs of muscle in about a month. Pretty good result for a worthless product, isn't it? So, I don't care a bit about what some study is saying, because I feel great on every workout, and am much stronger, too.

I think it's a bit much to say that tribulus was the thing that made you grow, was this 7 pounds all muscle (taking into account bodyfat) or did you just mean you gained 7 pounds. 7 pounds can be done with no supplements. As far as the other side effects it deffinately increases libido and some other mental attributes, but most studies don't seem to show any increase in test. A lot of things attribute to aggression and libido not just test.

[Soulfrost]

No fat. I watch my carbs and my body fat is the same as ever. I train more than 8 years, and have never used any steroids. If I would gain fat while not working out properly, shouldn't I feel quite the opposite than I'm feeling now? Instead, my lifts are bigger, and I feel so much better. Maybe that's because I'm almost 35 but, if I'de be 20 I wouldn't consider using Tribulus in the first place.

[defdog99]

It works if you are older.

NOW mens virility power has helped me regain back some form...

And my hair abnormally thinned abit the month while on it.

Is it worth the hairloss ? Haven't decided. But it's sure nice getting wood in the mornings like the old days...

[Soulfrost]

No hair problems for me. I always had thin hair, and in my early twenties it strted to slightly withdraw above my forehead, and I don't see any weakening because of Tribulus. Try using New Hair from Lush Cosmetics and I think you'll be satisfied.

[Contract Killer]

Ultimate Tribulus and Sopharma Tribestan have ALWAYS worked for me. I tried Ultimate for the first time in high school and broke up in mad acne, I hated it, but within a good 2 months I was leagues ahead of where I was. High testosterone levels are crucial to survive in this game and frankly I can't understand a bb'er who doesn't use some form of test booster.

[deserusan]

It's good for wood.

[johnnyironboard]

Trib has never done anything for me- but I'm only 40 so maybe when I'm old it will help.

[Gym God]

Originally Posted by deserusan

It's good for wood.

Wood is goooood!!! lol

[Soulfrost]

In order for something to work, it's not enough just take it and leave it to do something all by itself. Nothing will work if, say, you have elevated test levels and not working out properly to use that advantage in the bast possible way. This morning I added 10 pounds to my deadlift using stuff that "don't work".

[Gym God]

Originally Posted by Soulfrost

In order for something to work, it's not enough just take it and leave it to do something all by itself. Nothing will work if, say, you have elevated test levels and not working out properly to use that advantage in the bast possible way. This morning I added 10 pounds to my deadlift using stuff that "don't work".

That is it and to expand on that comment. Supplements are supplements and only that. If you do not have any proper foundation to work with...supplements will pretty much be useless.

[DoNotSwallow]

Not only was that a poor study, but it's foolish to base your whole opinion of a supplement on one study.

[357mag]

i always liked trib. I took musclejack (tribulus and longjack). Anyways i love it preworkout, even if it where placebo, which im pretty sure its not, it gives me alot of extra aggression to have a great workout. No aggression=bad workout. Who wants to workout when their intensity/energy levels are low? well maybe you can still gain muscle, but i personally enjoy lifting(sort of like how people hit the heavy bag around). Anyways tribulis+ZMA=a little boost for cheap, i wouldn't expect great musclebuilding results, but it will help even if slightly. BTW i have heard the one guy who is well known on here for having a large increase in weight over time said, Increased hormones from supplements such as tribulis is calories in = more likelyhood to be converted to muscle. So basically you still need increase in calories to get a benefit from slight increase in test.

BTW as cheap as tribulus is compared to other products that are borderline even remotely worth their pricetag, i wouldnt hesitate to at least try it once and see if you like it.

[MCWTRAINER]

Originally Posted by deserusan

It's good for wood.

Long live wood!