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10-18-2006, 08:04 PM
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Thermogenic Fat Burners “with” Ephedra?
Are there any Thermogenic Fat Burners “with” Ephedra (ephedra, ephedrine, or mau haung) in them yet? Or back on the market?
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10-18-2006, 08:16 PM
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I don't believe it's allowed to be sold as a "supplement" yet. I just buy straight ephedrine. Link sent via PM...
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10-18-2006, 08:33 PM
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in ur frig eatin ur foodz
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Lipoburner and ephedrene are still being sold. 25 mg of alkaloids in each product.
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10-18-2006, 08:46 PM
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Just buy your own ephedrine. It has became legalized in the States.
What you can do is this:
- Take 25 mg of ephedrene. It might come in 8 mg tabs, so just take 3 instead.
- 200 mg of caffeine.
Take one of these stacks every 4 - 5 hours. But advoid after 5:00 pm so you can calm down and sleep. It is perhaps one of the best and cheapest fat burners/thermogenics on the market.
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10-18-2006, 08:54 PM
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in ur frig eatin ur foodz
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Ephedrine has always been legal in the U.S. It seems like every few months lately the price goes up and the ID requirements go up, though. You used to be able to get 48 tabs for what, $5? Maybe $9 at most? Now many places sell that much for $50.
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10-18-2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sumguy
Ephedrine has always been legal in the U.S. It seems like every few months lately the price goes up and the ID requirements go up, though. You used to be able to get 48 tabs for what, $5? Maybe $9 at most? Now many places sell that much for $50.
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Good to know. Being up in Canada I was told it was banned for awhile and it has finally been legalized again.
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10-18-2006, 09:53 PM
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if anybody is paying $50 for 48 tabs you are getting seriously ripped off. i just got 200 tabs of 25mg for $35. PM me if you want the link
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10-18-2006, 11:01 PM
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Would you mind sharing that link via PM... Thanks
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10-18-2006, 11:11 PM
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in ur frig eatin ur foodz
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Originally Posted by theman5102001
if anybody is paying $50 for 48 tabs you are getting seriously ripped off. i just got 200 tabs of 25mg for $35. PM me if you want the link
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If it's from overseas, that's illegal now. I'm not saying you will get in trouble for that since there's the obvious question of jurisdiction and it's still not a controlled substance. But anyone who's recieving packages that are controlled substances (i.e., test) might not want the additional heat.
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10-19-2006, 06:41 AM
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http://lowcostvitamins.net/pages-pro...-100-tabs.html
Lipodrene is the most popular fat burner that contains ephedra...this site has 37 products with ephedrine or ephedra. Personally, if I was to use ephedrine...I'd stack it with some of the better fat burners found here. Many of these products are a little shady and don't have the best formulations. They are out there though.
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10-19-2006, 03:43 PM
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Thanks, for the input guys...I appreciate it.
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10-19-2006, 03:51 PM
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You can also look into bronchodilators at your local drug store and stack with caffeine and green tea extract.
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10-19-2006, 03:51 PM
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i think u might be better off just buying your ephedrin HCl and stacking it wiht some caffeine......damn ur hot
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10-19-2006, 03:58 PM
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I've used an ECA stack for a few of my workouts in the past. Each time, I didn't get that Hot or Amped Up feeling I like having. So, I'm under the impression that there must be something in the blended thermogenics (aside from E) that I'm reacting to.
Btw, Thank you JP
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10-19-2006, 04:10 PM
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good to see you around princess
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10-19-2006, 04:21 PM
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i am currently taking Sci-Fit's thermogen II with epehedra...
yohimbre HCL - 10mg (500mg yohimbre extract)
Ephedrine alkaloids - 10mg (125mg muhuang extract)
33mg caffiene (150 guarana)
willow bark 100mg
caffeine 100mg
cayenne 100 mg
ginger rot 100mg
taken 3 times a day, good results mixed with my cardio..
dont think they make it anymore tho
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10-19-2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon*princess
I've used an ECA stack for a few of my workouts in the past. Each time, I didn't get that Hot or Amped Up feeling I like having. So, I'm under the impression that there must be something in the blended thermogenics (aside from E) that I'm reacting to.
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Possibly Yohimbine. I was in many of the past ephedra based products.
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10-19-2006, 05:48 PM
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in ur frig eatin ur foodz
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Originally Posted by BiggJohn
Possibly Yohimbine. I was in many of the past ephedra based products.
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Lipoburner has both ephedra = 25mg alkaloids and also yohimbine, plus a few other things. Some don't like the combo, but if anyone is looking for such a product, look for Lipoburner.
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10-31-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon*princess
I've used an ECA stack for a few of my workouts in the past. Each time, I didn't get that Hot or Amped Up feeling I like having. So, I'm under the impression that there must be something in the blended thermogenics (aside from E) that I'm reacting to.
Btw, Thank you JP
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Princess,
Sometimes the Yohimbe can be brutal. Perhaps that is what you're reacting to in the blended products. Just one idea. I know that yohimbe doesn't agree with me at all!
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10-31-2006, 01:33 PM
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Ephedrine HCL was never banned in the U.S.
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10-31-2006, 01:42 PM
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I strongly suggest against taking ephedrine with yohimbe (or yohimbine). You are just increasing your risks of negative sides, and it is unneccessary. EC works well on its own.
DP - I have a list of fat burners I recommend on my site here, and an page on the EC stack with dosing.
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10-31-2006, 03:00 PM
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[QUOTE=terracotta]I strongly suggest against taking ephedrine with yohimbe (or yohimbine).
Amen to that! I took the two combined once and thought I was going to have a heart attack for about 3 hours! Effects everyone differently I guess!
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11-02-2006, 09:43 PM
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what exactly are the side effects from ephedrine??
or was it just those dumb ass kids who took like 3x the amount and died at that football game??
also how much better are they than regular thermos??
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11-02-2006, 10:03 PM
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The people who had severe negative side effects either
a) Took more than the recommended dosage
b) Had an existing medical condition that would make it not recommendable
c) Started with the recommended dosage (instead of testing a 1/2 dose)
d) Had a contraindication to taking it
e) Were allergic to ephedrine (in the same way someone can be allergic to peanut butter, or anything for that matter..)
I've outlined the warnings and sides on my site, as well as linked good articles on ephedrine. http://terracotta2.googlepages.com/ecstack
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11-02-2006, 10:05 PM
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The EC stack was tested in several large clinical trials, unlike most of the stuff on the market right now. The articles linked on my site go through that
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so you suggest after about the first week to done 3x a day??
ive read 2x?? is it just person to person??
thanx
also how long do you suggest taking it at a time??
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11-02-2006, 10:15 PM
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You have a choice of 2x a day or 3x a day, but the clinical trials done were 3x a day. If you take it 3x a day, you will lose fat faster. If you take it past 4 weeks you will find all the appetite suppression and energy side effects are gone, however the thermogenic effects (increased bmr, fat burning, muscle retention) will continue. So it is your choice whether you want to go off of it. I personally stayed on it for 8 weeks. I lost very few lbs but a significant amount in measurements.
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11-02-2006, 11:39 PM
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You have a choice of 2x a day or 3x a day, but the clinical trials done were 3x a day. If you take it 3x a day, you will lose fat faster. If you take it past 4 weeks you will find all the appetite suppression and energy side effects are gone, however the thermogenic effects (increased bmr, fat burning, muscle retention) will continue. So it is your choice whether you want to go off of it. I personally stayed on it for 8 weeks. I lost very few lbs but a significant amount in measurements.
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hmm...but if my diet is in check then im not sure i want to go that intense :/ cause doesnt Ephedrine just speed up your metabolism?? and that might drop me too far below my calorie deficit. or does it some how directly reduce fat? (doubt it)
ill have to experiment
now i just have to decide where to get it. i really want to get it from bb.com so that i can buy all my other stuff (gonna try scortch, and need to get my bcaas for cardio and come caffein...) and get it all shipped as one package
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11-04-2006, 12:15 PM
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Thank you so much to everyone that offered input.
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11-04-2006, 12:17 PM
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i c my old flirt buddy is posting again a lil bit?
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