obliques and waist size

[aston09v]

i know that working obliques make your waist bigger. they take away from your V-taper but is that the only reason no one trains them? like, does a big(but defined) waist make you look fat or something?

[stealth_swimmer]

Yes it makes the waist wider, not necessarily fat, just thick.

It's still ok to train obliques, just don't go too heavy on the weighted side-bends.

[Troutwine]

yea........