Well so long 1,3-dimethylamylamine (DMAA)

[OT2000]

Recent news about dmaa products, both manufacturing and selling.

https://www.stack3d.com/2017/10/hi-t...maa-order.html

“Hi-Tech is prohibited from, directly or indirectly through third parties, manufacturing, distributing or selling adulterated foods or misbranded drugs, including but not limited to products containing DMAA or its chemical equivalent. This includes but is not limited to: purchasing or receiving DMAA ingredients, and manufacturing, processing, packaging, marketing, or distributing food or dietary supplement products containing DMAA or its chemical equivalent.”

Inb4 mass buying

[BenBlue]

1st

So long, hope to find you underground in the future

[kbayne]

1,4 to slide into its place

[Synapsin]

1,4 to slide into its place

Structurally almost impossible to tell the difference between the two when testing

[DASBUNKER]

Anyone saw the part about the Hi tech raid and wheaties arrest? lulz

[VaughnTrue]

If you think HTP is done after this, you're mistaken. Jared will be fighting this as there is SO much more going on here than what has been released so far. I asked for permission to share the info I've received and give some insight into it. As soon as it's approved, I'll post the ridiculousness in here.

[powercage]

What a waste of time and resources

[AMeyer9]

What a waste of time and resources

But bro, can you put a price on your ego?

[masterg20]

PricePlow says it over Red Yeast Rice from 3 years ago?

[Bigdumogre]

It sucks these days anyway. Not at all like the og dmaa anyway

[compan]

PricePlow says it over Red Yeast Rice from 3 years ago?

Tax dollars hard at work

[VaughnTrue]

The fact that this is how the FDA has to try and stop dmaa when they can't do it through traditional banning how the law states they HAVE to is extremely telling

[OT2000]

How much mona****n k was found in Choladrene? That would determine if it was legal to be sold or not.

[DamonX]

subbed

[VaughnTrue]

That was listed in the paperwork I saw, it was simply presented as "present" which they claim is enough to indict someone lol

[dougefresh93]

Subbed for post workout reading

[kissdadookie]

PricePlow says it over Red Yeast Rice from 3 years ago?

PriceBlowMe Shills R Us?

[kissdadookie]

The fact that this is how the FDA has to try and stop dmaa when they can't do it through traditional banning how the law states they HAVE to is extremely telling

What do you mean through traditional banning? DSHEA makes it very clear what falls under the legislation as adulterants. Per DSHEA DMAA is an adulterant and thus NOT ALLOWED to be an ingredient in dietary supplements. You guys poked a stick at the FDA, tried to sue them, and you guys lost. The judge’s decision clearly stated that DMAA is not a dietary ingredient that can be used in dietary supplements. You guys continuing to sell it doesn’t mean that it’s legal unless outright banned, all that illustrates is that the FDA hasn’t taken action yet.

[DASBUNKER]

PricePlow says it over Red Yeast Rice from 3 years ago?

It was probably extra yeasty if it was that old.

[TMac26]

The fact they are dangling 1,3 DMAA over his head to stop selling to be released is just the FDA going "we are tired of this, we are changing the rules"


Its not even part of the indictment, but they included it anyway, cause well, that's the government for you


If this was truly about Red Yeast Rice, they wouldn't have included 1,3 DMAA, but lettuce real tea here, the FDA does want they want, and the sooner its disbanded the better off the country will be.

[BenBlue]

The fact they are dangling 1,3 DMAA over his head to stop selling to be released is just the FDA going "we are tired of this, we are changing the rules"


Its not even part of the indictment, but they included it anyway, cause well, that's the government for you


If this was truly about Red Yeast Rice, they wouldn't have included 1,3 DMAA, but lettuce real tea here, the FDA does want they want, and the sooner its disbanded the better off the country will be.

Agree with this. I think it's clear that the FDA is bending the rules to gain the upper hand. I'm no lawyer so I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but it's clear this isn't about red yeast rice...

[ahawk01]

FDA acts like organized crime. Wow. Mismanagement!!!

[Big_Spaz]

And unfortunately for us (people who just want to work out and take a pre-workout product of our choosing) have to suffer. That's what I hate, them telling me what I can and cannot take.

I'm not sure how this is all going to shake out, but for right now it definitely appears to be a witch hunt from all the information Vaughn posted. Vaughn dropping the FACTS like usual, well done sir





-Spaz

[OT2000]

FDA acts like organized crime. Wow. Mismanagement!!!

Cant blame them. Most supp companies are as slimy as they come and we all know it.

[kissdadookie]

The fact they are dangling 1,3 DMAA over his head to stop selling to be released is just the FDA going "we are tired of this, we are changing the rules"


Its not even part of the indictment, but they included it anyway, cause well, that's the government for you


If this was truly about Red Yeast Rice, they wouldn't have included 1,3 DMAA, but lettuce real tea here, the FDA does want they want, and the sooner its disbanded the better off the country will be.

FDA is going to fight an uphill battle on the red yeast rice extract. 1999 ruling had reversed the FDA's ban on lovastatin containing supplements (in the form of red yeast rice extracts).

[OT2000]

FDA is going to fight an uphill battle on the red yeast rice extract. 1999 ruling had reversed the FDA's ban on lovastatin containing supplements (in the form of red yeast rice extracts).

There is still the 4mg regulator. If the HT product exceeded that, then the FDA can persue.

[kissdadookie]

There is still the 4mg regulator. If the HT product exceeded that, then the FDA can persue.

Ah, was unaware of that. Makes sense though, ~4 mg is likely roughly what is found naturally in common amounts of red yeast rice extract I'm guessing?

[OT2000]

Ah, was unaware of that. Makes sense though, ~4 mg is likely roughly what is found naturally in common amounts of red yeast rice extract I'm guessing?

It’s their threshold into what they determine to no longer be s supplemental dose but a drug. RYR varies so much it’s easy to exceed their limits. I bet a ton do currently.

[mikaveli06]

What is this “drug” in the yeast used for? Just curiosity, ive never heard of it

[kissdadookie]

It’s their threshold into what they determine to no longer be s supplemental dose but a drug. RYR varies so much it’s easy to exceed their limits. I bet a ton do currently.

Shouldn't really exceed 4 mg realistically though. They did do a study with various RYR products and found the range to be 0.15–3.37 mg. The study was from 2001.