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    Kickboxing vs Taekwondo

    Who do you think would win in a fight a master at kickboxing or taekwondo. I think kickboxing hands down.

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    Shouldn't really be a question. This is just going to anger Taekwondo people because kickboxing is the obvious choice here.

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    sigh, what a stupid poll. theres no real answer, as i dont do "styles". anything and anyone can win any fight really. saying something vs something is stupid in fights.

    besides, there are many tkd schools that train in many different arts. some train in practical street fighting methods, others train in bull **** olympic stuff.

    i WILL NOT accept idiots dissing taekwondo, as 99% of them are kids who have never even trained in it.

    kickboxing is an excellent choice also, i would do muay thai, kick boxing, boxing, bjj, tkd etc.
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    Originally Posted by Seroph4x
    sigh, what a stupid poll. theres no real answer, as i dont do "styles". anything and anyone can win any fight really. saying something vs something is stupid in fights.

    besides, there are many tkd schools that train in many different arts. some train in practical street fighting methods, others train in bull **** olympic stuff.

    i WILL NOT accept idiots dissing taekwondo, as 99% of them are kids who have never even trained in it.

    kickboxing is an excellent choice also, i would do muay thai, kick boxing, boxing, bjj, tkd etc.
    I have never trained in it, but i know people who have, one of which is master or something at it, who now teaches Arnis Kali, who say it just doesn't work. I like their kicks, i tried to go to it on wednesday but the guy wouldnt let me join up because i do dragon fist freestyle which is based around kickboxing. Which made me angry.

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    Originally Posted by wolvesrdogs
    I have never trained in it, but i know people who have, one of which is master or something at it, who now teaches Arnis Kali, who say it just doesn't work. I like their kicks, i tried to go to it on wednesday but the guy wouldnt let me join up because i do dragon fist freestyle which is based around kickboxing. Which made me angry.
    interesting. their olympic tkd doesnt work.

    let me give you some back ground on me and my master. Our master is a 7th dan master of taekwondo. he has also done 6+ other martial arts, including bjj, and the like, kick boxing, muay tai etc.

    we are TRULY privialged to be taught many things of this. we learn arm bars, chokes, u name it, we learn all the basics of mma. its only called taekwondo still as we use the patterns still sometimes. and cos he trained in it so long. but yeah, we only actually learn the good parts of tkd and all of the others in relation to fighting and self defense.

    of course, if i were to become a real fighter, i would want to do some stand alone mma training, such as bjj and muay thai as well for a few years. ive done this taekwondo for 4+ years myself. id say im fairly well rounded, but ill never go around thinking or saying i can fight, that would only end up getting myself in trouble i couldnt get out of.

    guys...u can train in mma, be a master of the best art of what ever lol, it wont help in some street sitations. sure its great still, but rememeber, people usually fight dirty these days. i heard of someone getting his eye cut out with a broken botten recently...discusting. makes me not ever want to have to get into street fights doesnt it? save your skills for only when u HAVE to. and to defend the weak/needey.

    if us martial arts guys and mma guys start showing more respect we can stop some stupid fights going on for no reason. dont let your pride get in the way.

    anyhow, to be well rounded you need mma. simple. taekwondo is a very good foundation if you choose the right school. rememeber, most masters have been there, done that and want to teach you some decent ****, not flashy rubbish.

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    Well, I have trained in tae kwon do. I did it for around a decade growing up. I really liked how it improved my kicks. That's about it. Now I've just started training muay thai and it's SO MUCH better. Anyone from my class would own me in a fight with their experience of muay thai against my tae kwon do skills! Just my 2 cents. Not starting anything. I like what tae kwon do gave to me, but kickboxing is giving me so much more.
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    Originally Posted by Snitsky
    Well, I have trained in tae kwon do. I did it for around a decade growing up. I really liked how it improved my kicks. That's about it. Now I've just started training muay thai and it's SO MUCH better. Anyone from my class would own me in a fight with their experience of muay thai against my tae kwon do skills! Just my 2 cents. Not starting anything. I like what tae kwon do gave to me, but kickboxing is giving me so much more.
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    The advent of MMA has already given us the undeniable proof of what's practical and what's not.

    Muay Thai > TKD
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    My brother's tae kwon do teacher would wipe the floor with any kickboxing master. Guy bench pressed 400 at 180 lbs in highschool raw. He's got the athleticism of an Edgerin James and hands the size of baseball mits along with speed. His most recent student went over to South Korea and beat their Korean world champion and knocked him down twice.

    He was and still is undefeated in competitive sparring in the United States and Korea. He was taught privately and is still appluaded by one of the famous tae kwon do instructors of the entire south korean army, Tae Z.


    Guy's a legend. It'd be a one punch knockout.
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    see, theres always different people out there. i mean my tkd master has trained in mma his whole life too...im all for different styles, NO style is better. no style is the best. take the best from differnt styles and mix em up.
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    I and other people have always said, its more about the person and their athleticism and talent behind the style, than the style itself.
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    Originally Posted by Seroph4x
    see, theres always different people out there. i mean my tkd master has trained in mma his whole life too...im all for different styles, NO style is better. no style is the best. take the best from differnt styles and mix em up.
    Yes, styles are better, overall. No one is saying that TKD is "useless", but yes, Muay Thai, overall is a better art.
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    No it really isn't, its just different.

    There's sport TKD and there's military TKD. You really dont know what your talking about.
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    and theres a special tkd i do that mixes **** loads of sweet stuff in it hehe

    bah. call it what u want i just use what ever works LOL

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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
    No it really isn't, its just different.

    There's sport TKD and there's military TKD. You really dont know what your talking about.
    Oh, so military TKD, sorry bro, I was just talking about TKD in general.

    STFU. Watch the majority of TKD or Karate vs. Muay Thai vids and the TKD guy will get owned. They cant deal with the leg kicks.
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    So watching one video on youtube makes you an expert... right

    All you've seen on youtube are weak sport tkd people.

    TKD kicks are the kicks that break stone. Muay Thai kicks are meant to attack the kidneys and legs, in a whiplike fashion. The sidekick in TKD was developed to kick someone off a moving horse in battle.
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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
    So watching one video on youtube makes you an expert... right

    All you've seen on youtube are weak sport tkd people.

    TKD kicks are the kicks that break stone. Muay Thai kicks are meant to attack the kidneys and legs, in a whiplike fashion. The sidekick in TKD was developed to kick someone off a moving horse in battle.
    One video? Who said anything about one video? Ive seen several where the TKD guy gets owned from Muay Thai leg kicks while he prances around and does fancy spin kicks. Watch any of the earlier UFC's where guys where black belts in whatever TKD, Karate, Ninjitsu, they all get owned and resorty to basically haymakers and no real skill.

    I dont care if its sport TKD, its still TKD. Post up some vidz of this secret Military/Ultimate TKD you speak of so I can see wtf you are talking about.
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    I think this question is really not fair. You can't compare one system to another. It has nothing to do with it. It's the person that is competing that counts. If the person knows is system well and better the other person then he will win.
    One system is not better then the other. Every system has advantage and disadvantage

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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
    So watching one video on youtube makes you an expert... right

    All you've seen on youtube are weak sport tkd people.

    TKD kicks are the kicks that break stone. Muay Thai kicks are meant to attack the kidneys and legs, in a whiplike fashion. The sidekick in TKD was developed to kick someone off a moving horse in battle.
    Wow, what bull****.

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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h

    TKD kicks are the kicks that break stone. Muay Thai kicks are meant to attack the kidneys and legs, in a whiplike fashion. The sidekick in TKD was developed to kick someone off a moving horse in battle.
    Other than the head, kicks to the kidneys and legs are the most devastating places to land.
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    The answer is more who is better at their art, and luck is always key.

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    Originally Posted by Seroph4x
    sigh, what a stupid poll. theres no real answer, as i dont do "styles". anything and anyone can win any fight really. saying something vs something is stupid in fights.

    besides, there are many tkd schools that train in many different arts. some train in practical street fighting methods, others train in bull **** olympic stuff.

    i WILL NOT accept idiots dissing taekwondo, as 99% of them are kids who have never even trained in it.

    kickboxing is an excellent choice also, i would do muay thai, kick boxing, boxing, bjj, tkd etc.
    You are right, it doesnt matter what style, fight is a fight is a fight, anything can happen, anyone can win regardless of their style.

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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
    My brother's tae kwon do teacher would wipe the floor with any kickboxing master. Guy bench pressed 400 at 180 lbs in highschool raw. He's got the athleticism of an Edgerin James and hands the size of baseball mits along with speed. His most recent student went over to South Korea and beat their Korean world champion and knocked him down twice.

    He was and still is undefeated in competitive sparring in the United States and Korea. He was taught privately and is still appluaded by one of the famous tae kwon do instructors of the entire south korean army, Tae Z.


    Guy's a legend. It'd be a one punch knockout.
    lol your a joke

    400 pound bench press at 180, in highschool? lol

    if hes so great then why doesnt he go into MMA so he can make tons of money? oh.. " he doesnt feel the need to prove himself anymore" right?

    lol arent you the guy that thinks systema makes you invincible? you are the ultimate Mcdojo master.
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    The guys freaking 44 years old now. Like he's gonna enter MMA. He doesn't do it to prove how awesome he is. He trains students now and does it out of a love for the art itself. He's a legend in the world of Tae Kwon Do.


    Once again your proving how much of a ignorant dumbass you are Chett. I guess every great fighter should do MMA to make tons and tons of money RIGHT??!!

    If Chuck Liddel gets hit in a bad spot one time his careers over. No more money, hope you have training in some other skill chuck so you can make a good living. Not to mention all the other fighters who don't have much money and have families to support

    Life isn't all about fighting. You must still be in Highschool or Middle school because you seem to think it is about fighting.

    Your a moron who's never trained in any style a day in his life.
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    Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
    The guys freaking 44 years old now. Like he's gonna enter MMA. He doesn't do it to prove how awesome he is. He trains students now and does it out of a love for the art itself. He's a legend in the world of Tae Kwon Do.


    Once again your proving how much of a ignorant dumbass you are Chett. I guess every great fighter should do MMA to make tons and tons of money RIGHT??!!

    If Chuck Liddel gets hit in a bad spot one time his careers over. No more money, hope you have training in some other skill chuck so you can make a good living. Not to mention all the other fighters who don't have much money and have families to support

    Life isn't all about fighting. You must still be in Highschool or Middle school because you seem to think it is about fighting.

    Your a moron who's never trained in any style a day in his life.
    in your self defense article you tell people that krav maga and systema are the best styles? wow. you really know nothing at all.

    what is the name of this "legend" you speak of?

    if he was really that good then why didnt he go into the UFC tournaments 13 years ago and beat everybody?

    and once again, i am going to call bull**** on your little "benched 400 pounds raw at 180 pounds in highschool"

    you are the ultimate example of a McDojo master.

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    hes unbeaten in competitive sparring too? have any sources of his name being in and competitions?

    and that student you mentioned, how about his name to? after all he beat the world champion of kick boxing didnt he? ( whoever the **** the world champion of all kick boxing is)

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    muay thai > TKD

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    Originally Posted by hittman
    muay thai > TKD

    muay thai> systema as well

    heres a nice laugh on the subject of systema:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0919&q=Systema

    these systema videos are the funniest **** on the planet

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    Hey Chett how about we fight and put it on youtube for the MMA forum? My systema vs your internet imaginary styles.

    Maybe that would shut you up as you know nothing about what your talking about.
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