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10-14-2006, 01:28 AM
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Red Dragon beta-alanine
Has anyone tried this new supplement yet? I have heard this is going to be the next "creatine" for bodybuilders and I'm thinking about trying it.
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10-14-2006, 02:49 AM
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10-14-2006, 04:51 AM
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10-14-2006, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
Has anyone tried this new supplement yet? I have heard this is going to be the next "creatine" for bodybuilders and I'm thinking about trying it.
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Here is a link to my home.
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...t=beta+alinine
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10-14-2006, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
Has anyone tried this new supplement yet? I have heard this is going to be the next "creatine" for bodybuilders and I'm thinking about trying it.
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I cant speak for that exact product, but I have been logging IntraXCell that has 4g BA in it, and its been amazing! Check out the log in my sig if you want more details.
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10-14-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
Has anyone tried this new supplement yet? I have heard this is going to be the next "creatine" for bodybuilders and I'm thinking about trying it.
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I've said it before that I think calling Beta-Alanine the next creatine statement is foolish and misleading as they work very differently in the body and BA for the most part takes longer to kick in than creatine does. BA is certainly more versatile than creatine and I believe superior in many ways.
There are some parallels though between creatine and Beta-Alanine.
Some of these include:
1. The same incredible researcher Dr.Harris, who did the breakthrough study on creatine in the early nineties starting it's popularity is the same guy pioneering the early Beta-Alanine research. You know if he gets behind something it damn well works.
2. Beta-Alanine is actually ahead of creatine in the amount of research is has at this stage of it's release and continues to build more at a rapid pace. It will likely surpass creatine in sheer volume of positive research in the upcoming years and there will be NO other single ingredient except for creatine that can hold a candle to Beta-Alanine
3. Many people believe, popularity wise it will get more popular than creatine in time.
BTW, that was me over at AM posting in that thread.
You can find a ton of info on Beta-Alanine and our product that contains it IntraXCell is this thread.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=890283
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10-14-2006, 11:36 AM
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well. that would be certainly something that would be interesting.. something better than creatine other than roids/gh/igf1 for anabolism.
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10-14-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dexterium
well. that would be certainly something that would be interesting.. something better than creatine other than roids/gh/igf1 for anabolism.
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If you have been following along in the above thread I posted you will see just how legit Beta-Alanine is.
Not sure if you saw the Hoffman study I posted earlier in the thread where they found the group using BA+Creatine increased lean muscle mass while the Creatine only group did not. It is believed that the BA was responsible for the increase in Lean muscle mass. Plus the BA+C group lost body fat, while the creatine group did not.
Beta-Alanine does not replace creatine, it works differently and does seem better in certain areas, where creatine is better in others.They certainly work very well together. If I were to chose one over the other, it would be Beta-Alanine ANY DAY.
When is comes to increases in Lean muscle mass, I believe judging by the above mentioned study and some other insight I have Beta-Alanine will beat out creatine.
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10-14-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N
"BTW, that was me over at AM posting in that thread."
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Good post.... very knowledgeable.
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10-14-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N
I've said it before that I think calling Beta-Alanine the next creatine statement is foolish and misleading as they work very differently in the body and BA for the most part takes longer to kick in than creatine does. BA is certainly more versatile than creatine and I believe superior in many ways.
There are some parallels though between creatine and Beta-Alanine.
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The really cool thing however is that there seems to be a great synergy between the two as recent research has shown. Beta Alanine is good stuff, no doubt.
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10-14-2006, 02:14 PM
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Not sure if you saw the Hoffman study I posted earlier in the thread where they found the group using BA+Creatine increased lean muscle mass while the Creatine only group did not.
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I like beta-alanine but given the body of research which clearly shows creatine increases lean muscle mass I would certainly reconsider placing a lot of faith in that study.
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10-15-2006, 11:42 PM
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[QUOTE=Athletic Edge N]I've said it before that I think calling Beta-Alanine the next creatine statement is foolish and misleading as they work very differently in the body and BA for the most part takes longer to kick in than creatine does. BA is certainly more versatile than creatine and I believe superior in many ways.
Thanks, I did more research on this and it has only furthered in my decision to test this product out. Of course I will be complementing it with my choice of creatine  I expect good things will come of this.
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10-16-2006, 01:22 AM
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Any reason for Red Dragon over IntraXCell?
And NO-Xplode? Guessing you've used it before? Seems to be a lot of better value / better ingredient options available, BSN generally is over-priced.
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10-16-2006, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by solarize
Any reason for Red Dragon over IntraXCell?
And NO-Xplode? Guessing you've used it before? Seems to be a lot of better value / better ingredient options available, BSN generally is over-priced.
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No I've never used No-Xplode before I just hear good things about it. I'm really new to pre-workout supps and haven't really ever tried any. If you have any suggestions please let me know, I'm searching for a quality product that will get me pumped and energized for my workouts because I generally workout after working a 12 hour shift and I'm usually drained, so I need something that will get me motivated.
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10-16-2006, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
"If you have any suggestions please let me know, I'm searching for a quality product that will get me pumped and energized for my workouts because I generally workout after working a 12 hour shift and I'm usually drained, so I need something that will get me motivated."
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HORSE POWER is a good comparison when trying to find a quality Nitric Oxide/creatine product. It's ingredients are VERY well formulated and the company has nothing to hide as they indicate how much of the ingredients they actually put in the product.
A good NO/creatine blend will increase ATP activity and give you the pump, energy, and stamina you need.
Some other products that are awesome for energy are a good B-complex, NADH, CO Q10, Sulbutiamine, and Acetyl-L-Carnitine-Arginate.
Good luck and let us know how it works out.
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10-16-2006, 05:04 AM
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I don't mean to be bias, but looking at Red Dragon, IntraXCell appears to be a superior product.
Anyway, onto pre-workout, there are just so many. To name a few:
SteelEdge
Universal Shock Therapy
Super Pump
NOS Ether
Horse Power
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
No I've never used No-Xplode before I just hear good things about it. I'm really new to pre-workout supps and haven't really ever tried any. If you have any suggestions please let me know, I'm searching for a quality product that will get me pumped and energized for my workouts because I generally workout after working a 12 hour shift and I'm usually drained, so I need something that will get me motivated.
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10-16-2006, 07:31 AM
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Look into Bodyoctane by MAN if you want the best Beta-alanine product out there, this one has much more to offer than just beta-alanine
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/body.html
Calories 0g
Total Carbohydrates 0g
Total Fat 0g
Sugars 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Protein 0g
Vitamin B6 5mg
Vitamin B12 15mcg
Pantothenic Acid 10mg
Niacin 25mg
Folic Acid 400mcg
Citrulline Malate 3.5g
Glucuronolactone 1g
Beta-Alanine 1.6g
L-Aspartic Acid 750mg
L-Carnitine L-Tartrate 1g
Histidine HCl 250mg
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10-16-2006, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by zachattack43
Look into Bodyoctane by MAN if you want the best Beta-alanine product out there, this one has much more to offer than just beta-alanine
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/body.html
Calories 0g
Total Carbohydrates 0g
Total Fat 0g
Sugars 0g
Cholesterol 0mg
Protein 0g
Vitamin B6 5mg
Vitamin B12 15mcg
Pantothenic Acid 10mg
Niacin 25mg
Folic Acid 400mcg
Citrulline Malate 3.5g
Glucuronolactone 1g
Beta-Alanine 1.6g
L-Aspartic Acid 750mg
L-Carnitine L-Tartrate 1g
Histidine HCl 250mg
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And it has the other "new creatine" in the shape of 1st citrulline malate and histidine, which boosts carnosine levels to make the 2nd. theres tones of research to back up the carnosne/citrulline stack and lots for beta-alanin as well. this stacked with creatine itself equals amazing muscle volume.
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10-16-2006, 06:21 PM
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10-16-2006, 07:23 PM
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Well I already have No-Xplode on the way to me so I will go ahead and try it as my pre-workout supp for now. As for BA I am actually leaning toward getting IntraXcell for the reasons in the research that I have done in comparison towards other BA products. It seems to be the Superior product in terms of beta-alanine supplementation alone and it doesn't have alot of other **** combined in with it. Plus it gives you more than enough BA per serving compared to the other products I have found that only supply 1/3 of what is needed, and some products don't even state the amount of BA content at all.
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10-17-2006, 03:26 AM
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Thanks for the support, let us know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by GreeneMachine
Well I already have No-Xplode on the way to me so I will go ahead and try it as my pre-workout supp for now. As for BA I am actually leaning toward getting IntraXcell for the reasons in the research that I have done in comparison towards other BA products. It seems to be the Superior product in terms of beta-alanine supplementation alone and it doesn't have alot of other **** combined in with it. Plus it gives you more than enough BA per serving compared to the other products I have found that only supply 1/3 of what is needed, and some products don't even state the amount of BA content at all.
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Beta Aline
Beta Alanine is really a next generation supplement for body building my personal trainer in London recommended me Beta Alanine and it helped me in improving my work outs
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08-14-2008, 06:53 AM
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Beta Alanine is really a next generation supplement for body building my personal trainer in London recommended me Beta Alanine and it helped me in improving my work outs
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08-14-2008, 06:58 AM
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From my experience with beta-alanine it is a good product and it makes you tingle when you take it.
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08-14-2008, 07:26 AM
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Beta Alanine is really a next generation supplement for body building my personal trainer in London recommended me Beta Alanine and it helped me in improving my work outs
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Thanks for the info man. We already knew that though. But thanks.
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