i use zma and it rocks!
only problem is i ALWAYS wake up after 5 hours of sleep and it seems im rested
however i want to try and add more to the equation
would mixing melatonin to zma increase the duration of my total deep restoring sleep?
and what else could i add?
thx guys
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10-10-2006, 10:46 AM #1
best sleep combo
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10-10-2006, 10:49 AM #2Registered User
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melatonin, 5-HTP, phenibut are all good
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10-10-2006, 10:56 AM #3Supplement killer
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I wouldn't suggest Melatonin because I've heard that if taken too much it can effect your glands from producing Melatonin naturally. I'm a hard person to stay asleep too. I take ZMA and Simply Sleep that always gives me around 8 - 9 hours of sleep. Do NOT take Tylenol PM. Only do that if you're in pain around bedtime, headache, etc. Taking Tylenol PM often can be dangerous or harmful... I don't remember the exact reason why but it's something to do with the pain reliever in TPM's.
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10-10-2006, 02:27 PM #4Registered User
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I love phenebit. I take Melatonin every night though for the anti-aging effect.
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10-10-2006, 02:33 PM #5Registered User
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It's a very powerful anti-oxidant.Originally Posted by ronjonA good reputation, like a good name, is gained by many posts and lost by one.
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10-10-2006, 02:58 PM #6Registered User
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Melatonin gives me nightmares
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10-13-2006, 02:36 AM #7get er done
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what is zma and where do you get it? I never heard of it. Is it better than melatonin? I take that every nite.
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10-13-2006, 02:37 AM #8C6H13NO2
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10-13-2006, 05:43 AM #9Registered User
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theanine, Valerian
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10-13-2006, 08:53 AM #10Registered User
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I take ZMA and occasional Melatonin when sleep patterns are interupted, well its frequently interrupted but I don't always take the Melatonin, for reasons mentioned above by Psychoman. I didn't read of the side effects he mentioned but I figure since is a hormone, too much reliance could result in my body stopping production of sleep hormone naturally.
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10-13-2006, 10:30 AM #12Banned
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I read that melatonin does increase the amount of time you sleep by about 30-45 minutes.
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10-13-2006, 01:03 PM #13Registered User
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ZMA increases delta sleep, it might take 5 hrs it might take 8 hrs for your body to get enough rest, but when your body gets enough rest your brain sends a signal to your body to get up. So if it takes 5 hrs for you but you want to sleep longer imo try taking a half dose of your zma and see how that works. GOOD LUCK BROOriginally Posted by Gregory_delangeIF IT AINT ROUGH IT AINT ME
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10-13-2006, 02:30 PM #14Registered User
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I'm not clever enough to know what delta sleep means lol but i will say one thing zma and white blood at night is a kick ass combo knocks me right out and I wake up feeling refreshed and good to go good stuff also a time released vitamin c supplement at night time which contains around a gram of vit c would be useful for cortisol suppression
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10-13-2006, 02:49 PM #15RELOADING
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Valerian Root even though it smells extremely bad.
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10-13-2006, 03:17 PM #16Registered User
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I like ZMA, Gaba, and 5HTP. Great combo for me.
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10-13-2006, 03:54 PM #17Fresh Tuna Roll
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when you take melatonin its recommended to cycle off it...its best to only take it when you know you are having a hard time falling asleep.
melatonin works for sure though it makes me yawn and get sleepy but dont take it every single day cause i took it everysingle day and built up a tolerance for 2 weeks straight i took it and i couldnt fall asleep anymore...
i went off it for 4 months and took it again 1 day and went right to sleep...i suggest only taking it when you have to sleep early.
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10-13-2006, 04:11 PM #18Believe in yourself
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Try taking 3-5g of GABA 30 mins before your ZMA. This will aid rest and a deeper state of sleep.Originally Posted by Gregory_delange
You may get a tingling flushing sensation 10 mins after takinng GABA, this is normal but start with a lower dose and work up to 5g.Believe to Achieve
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10-13-2006, 05:07 PM #19
Consider E-Bol , sleep is definitely deeper
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10-13-2006, 05:19 PM #21Registered User
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weed would prolly do the trick?
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10-13-2006, 05:26 PM #22Erotic Politician
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Probably could use something cheaper like REM-R3G from USPlabs.Originally Posted by Joel
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10-13-2006, 05:28 PM #23Registered User
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Agreed , even though im beginning to like it :/Originally Posted by SavageOne
Melatonin (occationally)
Valerian root ( tends to make me feel very tired in the mornings :/ )
L-theanine , Good addition
low dosed Valerian root + 200 mg theanine is a good combo
Abit of speedwanking pre bed will make u relax
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