Hey Bob Chick; How Much Do the Pros Really Eat?

<7% · 10-10-2006, 08:49 AM

Hi Bob,

As you know, there are some stupid numbers flying around as to how much food the pros are really eating in the off-season. Some figures are as high as 8-9 thousand calories which I simply cannot believe. Also there are people who claim that the Mr. O competitors can eat over 500 grams of Protein a day. I remember a Flex article back in the day where Mike Matarazzo claimed to eat 3-4 chicken breasts per meal in each of his 5 meals.

Since you have been around these guys, how much do they really eat? Let's say a pro who competes at 250 lbs and goes to 285 or so in the off season. How much would such a person eat during the mass phase of the year? How much P and CHO can he realy consume?

More importantly, how do they manage to eat that much? Do they take appetite enhancing substances at all?

Thanks for your time Bro...

ShamgarIPN · 10-10-2006, 09:00 AM

all teh pros eat a bob bowl.

bear82 · 10-10-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by <7%

Hi Bob,

As you know, there are some stupid numbers flying around as to how much food the pros are really eating in the off-season. Some figures are as high as 8-9 thousand calories which I simply cannot believe. Also there are people who claim that the Mr. O competitors can eat over 500 grams of Protein a day. I remember a Flex article back in the day where Mike Matarazzo claimed to eat 3-4 chicken breasts per meal in each of his 5 meals.

Since you have been around these guys, how much do they really eat? Let's say a pro who competes at 250 lbs and goes to 285 or so in the off season. How much would such a person eat during the mass phase of the year? How much P and CHO can he realy consume?

More importantly, how do they manage to eat that much? Do they take appetite enhancing substances at all?

Thanks for your time Bro...

appetite enhancing substances? jeez... try b12 shots and 2g of juice per week on the low end. then tell me how much you eat. o, and they don't become 250+ contest weight at 3%bf by eating garden salads and drinking mineral water.

DaHooligan · 10-10-2006, 09:54 AM

its bull**** they dont eat 4 chicken breasts a meal your stomach will bloat and have too much to digest...the only reason pros say that is to fool the public make it seem like they are not using ROIDS you basically eat 6 small meals and 2 protien shakes.

Bigdolf · 10-10-2006, 10:00 AM

I thought all they used was cell-tech

Amoral · 10-10-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by <7%

Hi Bob,

As you know, there are some stupid numbers flying around as to how much food the pros are really eating in the off-season. Some figures are as high as 8-9 thousand calories which I simply cannot believe. Also there are people who claim that the Mr. O competitors can eat over 500 grams of Protein a day. I remember a Flex article back in the day where Mike Matarazzo claimed to eat 3-4 chicken breasts per meal in each of his 5 meals.

Since you have been around these guys, how much do they really eat? Let's say a pro who competes at 250 lbs and goes to 285 or so in the off season. How much would such a person eat during the mass phase of the year? How much P and CHO can he realy consume?

More importantly, how do they manage to eat that much? Do they take appetite enhancing substances at all?

Thanks for your time Bro...

Your really think 8-9 thousand is all that much? Thats about 1200 calories a meal. Dont get me wrong thats a lot of food, but for a 300lb dood that isnt too much.

Epihall · 10-10-2006, 10:07 AM

Lee Priest offseason eats whatever he wants and lots of it, doesn't really keep track.

When Dorian Yates was winning the Mr. O, he'd eat 6,000 calories a day in the offseason, and 4,000 calories a day when getting ready for the show. Being Dorian was 300+ pounds in the offseason, I think you could get a good idea of just how sufficient 6,000 calories is. That's why I'm really hesitant when I hear people say they eat 8,000-10,000 calories a day. Maybe they do, but it really ain't necessary.

Epihall · 10-10-2006, 10:15 AM

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Q ] Speaking of calories, how high would you go in the off-season and pre-contest?

My highest intake was probably about six thousand. Pre-contest I wouldn't go much below four thousand.

From this interview:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson199.htm

Guardian · 10-10-2006, 10:17 AM

I know Nasser is stated saying he rarely ate over 3500 calories a day but I would also assume he has a slow metabolism.

BNut83 · 10-10-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdolf

I thought all they used was cell-tech

dat der celltech.. .lightweight!!

I couldn't imagine eating over 4K consistently on a daily basis, then again I hold a fulltime job and am not on the juice.

Amoral · 10-10-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BNut83

dat der celltech.. .lightweight!!

You know what is funny that you people still think that the cell tech joke is still funny, people like you ruin it.

To add to the discussion If I eat less than 4500 calories a day I lose weight. I have a high metabolism but I really find it hard to believe that Nasser only ate 3500 calories.

Contract Killer · 10-10-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Guardian

I know Nasser is stated saying he rarely ate over 3500 calories a day but I would also assume he has a slow metabolism.

yeah, the guy's a pure endomorph

Amoral · 10-10-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Contract Killer

yeah, the guy's a pure endomorph

Damn I wanted a better reply from you on this topic. Since your 260 how many cals did it take you to get there?

hernik_NOR · 10-10-2006, 11:02 AM

the pros do not eat as much as they say they do their just really trying too sell some of their sponsors supplemnts

take for example: if you get a nutrition plan from a sponsered pro it is bound to be all sorts of expensive supplements in there, they are sellin **** they barely get paid for

well guess thats just the corprated world messing whit the guys on the floor

AangleN · 10-10-2006, 11:05 AM

im about 265-270 (5-10) and generally i'll eat

cereal/oatmeal
toast w/ PB
40g protein shake

shake and oatmeal PWO

2 burgers (no buns) 93% lean
bowl oatmeal

40g shake

2 burgers (no buns) 93% lean
bowl oatmeal

40g shake

2 chicken breasts w/ salsa

2 chicken breasts w/ salsa

14 eggs (12 whites, 2 whole)

30g shake before bed.

that is a general estimate, could be plus or minus a few things. that isn't super calorie dense, though it's a lot of meals.

bear82 · 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM

i eat clean around 2600-2800 cals/day and i'm approx 270 with 18%. Currently I am eating close to 2300 to lean out back to single digit bf. my metabolism is slower than old ppl ****, but i am actually gaining muscle at this intake level. everyone is different. apparently i should be eating almost double my caloric intake to maintain. my college nutrition professor didn't believe me that i took in this low amount of cals until i gave her a 1wk mealplan documentation.

btw, 300g protein, 300g carbs and minimal fat yielded me close to 25lbs kept gains after an 8wk 100prop eod/75tren eod cycle, not my first. thought all of you should know.

Guardian · 10-10-2006, 11:55 AM

Yea I prolly only get between 2-5000 calories a day and my bf is around 15 percent right now.

edizzle · 10-10-2006, 12:14 PM

the EQ helps alot

stealth_swimmer · 10-10-2006, 01:13 PM

Let's put it this way. If they are 265 (let's assume offseason) then 265 gram of protein(1 per pound of bodyweight) is 1060 calories. If they eat 1.5 grams of carbs that is 1590 calories. Say they eat 75 grams of fat, that is 675 calories. That's a total of 3325 calories and a macronutrient brakdown (carbs/protein/fat) of 48/32/20. That is probably if they don't do cardio and if they are eating only clean foods. Come on guys, not only is it possible but it is highly probable that they eat way more than this, especially with even a few dirty foods. Seeing as most pros do some cardio in the offseason and they don't go super strict on diet and their workouts are much more intense due to steroids, I'd say they could easily get into the 4000 range.

ectomeso1 · 10-10-2006, 01:14 PM

i think alot of pro's do exagerate

but in markus ruhl's video he lays out everything he eats an talks about it

he says in the offseason he eats

400grams of protein=1600cals
800grams of carbs =3200cals

thats 4800 cals right there and he doesnt mention fats.......so i bet his toal daily concumption of cals is around 5500-6000 cals

ectomeso1 · 10-10-2006, 01:15 PM

also in a flex issue they had ronnie's meal plan and it was just under 10,000 cals

but its flex and they tend to exaggerate a bit

stealth_swimmer · 10-10-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bear82

everyone is different.

So true when it comes to food. Some people say that 180 pound bodybuilders should eat 3000 calories while others here tell 150 pound guys to eat that much. I'm overweight but my weight no longer fluctuates but I can say that I was eating around 3500 calories and it got me fat (mind you this was when I wasn't working out). I now try to keep it at 2400 to 2700 cals. Even so, I don't have a lot of control over my diet since I'm in college so I go by feel. I just eat 2 or 3 meals a day and sometimes 4. I'll end up being pretty much hungry for four days and then I hit the buffet to make up for it and then it starts again. I know that really isn't good but it's been ok so long as I listen to my body.

stealth_swimmer · 10-10-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ectomeso1

also in a flex issue they had ronnie's meal plan and it was just under 10,000 cals

but its flex and they tend to exaggerate a bit

I wouldn't doubt that he eats that in the offseason at least every once in a while but probably not on a regular basis. Gunter eats about 6500 calories in the offseason.

Epihall · 10-10-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ectomeso1

also in a flex issue they had ronnie's meal plan and it was just under 10,000 cals

but its flex and they tend to exaggerate a bit

Yea, I've read that Ronnie regularly eats in the 6,000-7,000 calorie range, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he occasionally goes above that.

Contract Killer · 10-10-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MetallicaMan88

Damn I wanted a better reply from you on this topic. Since your 260 how many cals did it take you to get there?

Haha, sorry to disappoint. Bro it took alot of cals. I probably down 7-8000 on a good 16-18 hour day. I was always into the meals. It's more of a chore than most of the training sessions. these days I usually aim for about 70 grams of protein per meal, 80-100 grams of carbs as well, 6-7 times a day. Lotta shakes too, mainly whey and malto.

hernik_NOR · 10-10-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Contract Killer

Haha, sorry to disappoint. Bro it took alot of cals. I probably down 7-8000 on a good 16-18 hour day. I was always into the meals. It's more of a chore than most of the training sessions. these days I usually aim for about 70 grams of protein per meal, 80-100 grams of carbs as well, 6-7 times a day. Lotta shakes too, mainly whey and malto.

70 grams of proein a meal thats too much if you arent abusing steroids you wont be able too absorb moore than maybe 40 gram talk about a waste of money

BodySculpting · 10-10-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AangleN

im about 265-270 (5-10) and generally i'll eat

cereal/oatmeal
toast w/ PB
40g protein shake

shake and oatmeal PWO

2 burgers (no buns) 93% lean
bowl oatmeal

40g shake

2 burgers (no buns) 93% lean
bowl oatmeal

40g shake

2 chicken breasts w/ salsa

2 chicken breasts w/ salsa

14 eggs (12 whites, 2 whole)

30g shake before bed.

that is a general estimate, could be plus or minus a few things. that isn't super calorie dense, though it's a lot of meals.

There are barely any sources of carbs at all.

For those saying Pro's don't eat alot...what planet are you living at? The problem is you guys believe that calories tells you how much a person eats, that is a big flaw. I can sit down and have 3 Philly Cheese Steaks in one day and that's already over 2,000 calories. These guys eat pretty clean (for the most part), but they eat alot...hence why sometimes the calories might seem a bit low for their size making you think they don't eat much. Imagine a bodybuilder eating:

2 Chicken Breasts and a bowl of oatmeal, let's estimate that at 600 calories.

x7 (7 meals a day), that's 4200 calories in a day.

That is still alot of food, but its really clean. Now add in natural supplements on the food (maybe some cheese on the chicken) and protein shakes, or milk to drink theh food with...that adds up, that will probably come out to about 6,000 calories.....

Now go into the BULKING season....everything is uped, which means they will probably hit 7,000-9,000 calories. These guys are not normal..remember that, you are talking about 250+ lbs of PURE LEAN MASS, not fat...do you guys understand what it takes to maintain muscle...let alone, that much muscle?

Colemans#1 · 10-10-2006, 03:34 PM

craig richardson on BFTO2005 said he eats 9000-10000 cals a day

stealth_swimmer · 10-10-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hernik_NOR

70 grams of proein a meal thats too much if you arent abusing steroids you wont be able too absorb moore than maybe 40 gram talk about a waste of money

Um...wrong. I'm pretty sure it has more to do with bodyweight than with substance usage.

Contract Killer · 10-10-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer

Um...wrong. I'm pretty sure it has more to do with bodyweight than with substance usage.

HAHA, pretty much. I mean, if I were to cut back on the protein, to let's say 40 grams per meal, that's 180 gramd of protein that I'm not getting. That's....hold on, let me open up calculator....that's 720 calories I'm giving up on, not to mention all that protein is a great insurance policy, as long as there's excess, you can't really lose. I gotz teh hi metabilizmm.