THE Blacklist Terms & Conditions

**jkeithc82** · 10-10-2006, 07:10 AM

Purpose of the BLACKLIST: to provide a reference source to company representatives in order to help weed out known unreliable product reviewers. This benefits the companies offering their products for review by listing known waters and benefits general members by eliminating wasters from applicant pools. Accepting a free product in exchange for a review and not following up with your end of the deal is essentially theft.

This is applicable to sponsored reviews only. If you purchase a product yourself you are exempt.

Guidelines for the BLACKLIST:

1) Only representatives from the company supplying the product may nominate someone for blacklisting. Hopefully this will remove any potential ‘backstabbing’ between members. There needent be a bandwagon effect between members ganging up on certain unpopular members. If companies can’t track their reviews properly that’s all on them.

Initially, candidates will only be applicable for blacklisting from any ones company’s most recent group of product reviewers. Blacklisting is not retroactive of past log failures, rather begins from this point forward. Those currently in the process of logging sponsored supplements are exempt from Blacklist standards, however not exempt from the company's log standards.

2) The rep has to clearly state the basic prerequisites for the candidates (number of updates per week, progress pictures, relevant information to be tracked and updated regularly etc). By posting an application to review a product the candidate accepts these terms. Reps cannot deviate from these prerequisites unless a formal public posting has been accepted by all testing parties as well as given moderator approval.

3) Only a moderator ultimately determines whether someone will be put on the blacklist.

4) A lukewarm or negative review on any product is NOT a candidate for blacklisting unless it violates other guidelines. Should reviewing parties comply with the standards set forth by the rep prior to testing, nomination for Blacklisting will be ignored.

5) At least one verifiable attempt must have been made to rectify an iffy log by the company via email or PM as well as several public posting attempts within the log itself. Bumping a thread is (unfortunately) not enough. Upon nomination of blacklisting if a Moderator wishes to also contact the reviewer prior to blacklisting that is their case-by-case decision.

6) If unforseen circumstances arrise it is up to the reviewer to contact the company, not the other way around. Such circumstances will also need to be addressed with myself or another moderator if the Blacklist discussion is underway. Unforseen circumstances include those that would render the reviewer physically unable to continue his/her log (ie. extreme sickness, injury, etc.).

7) The reviewer is NOT above COMMON SENSE. Certain things are implicit and not everything needs to be outlined every single time.

BLACKLISTING:

8) In order to be placed on the blacklist a rep must determine suitability via guidelines 1)-6) and then post the screen name of the candidate, a link to the review in question and infringements. Prior to public posting of a potential Blacklist member, reps should alert me prior by sending a pm. Blacklisted members are subject to a minimum 3 day ban from the boards which will begin immediately after he/she is Blacklisted.

REDEMPTION:

9) If a blacklistee wishes to be removed from the blacklist they can:

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- carry out at least three complete logs to a high standard with products they have purchased themselves. Realize that attempting to redeem yourself from the Blacklist means your next logs will be possibly judged more strictly and will depend on the product selection (logging a B-Complex is not acceptable for example).

As always… Moderator’s decisions are final.

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**jkeithc82** · 10-10-2006, 07:11 AM

Credit to Blap for the majority of this Blacklist writeup. I made a few changes and will continue to refine as I see fit (minor changes, the basics are already set forth).

THE Blacklist has begun.

\S/ · 10-10-2006, 07:18 AM

Awesome job Josh & Blap.

TE · 10-10-2006, 07:21 AM

Glad to see this up. Nice job.

cervasa1977 · 10-10-2006, 07:23 AM

Very nicely done

RB12 · 10-10-2006, 07:27 AM

good stuff.

**sawastea** · 10-10-2006, 07:41 AM

Josh, where will we include the names? In your initial post or should we make a new one and update it? If that's the case, I think we should delete some posts in here and make it easy to read and close the thread.

**jkeithc82** · 10-10-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sawastea

Josh, where will we include the names? In your initial post or should we make a new one and update it? If that's the case, I think we should delete some posts in here and make it easy to read and close the thread.

Can do it in the initial post, spaced down from the rules and such. I wanted to see everyones feedback about it once it became official.

**sawastea** · 10-10-2006, 08:07 AM

WTF@!!!

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Originally Posted by jkeithc82

As always… Moderator’s decisions are final.

Since when did we care about other people?!?!?!?!?

**jkeithc82** · 10-10-2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sawastea

WTF@!!!

Since when did we care about other people?!?!?!?!?

Just a blanket statement D. You and I own this forum

adoniscomplex · 10-10-2006, 09:10 AM

i def think the memebrs blacklisted should be listed in the intial post it will make it easy to check there
good work

whitedevil74 · 10-10-2006, 09:13 AM

Just have a seperate thread with nothing but names. This could be the thread for blacklist questions about the rules (which seem pretty fair and self-explanatory), and the other CLOSED thread would be for names only.

ddawg91 · 10-10-2006, 10:00 AM

Great job Blap and Jkeith.

If the names are in the initial post then that is fien, otherwise I agree with Whitedevil.

**factotum** · 10-10-2006, 10:01 AM

I say just list the peeps in the initial post so companies don't have to wade through pages of nonesense to find out who is blacklisted. And on that note I nominate martel.

storm shadow · 10-10-2006, 10:04 AM

so who's first?

adoniscomplex · 10-10-2006, 10:06 AM

/\ maxx , hahaha

Elliptical Envy · 10-10-2006, 10:37 AM

Glad to see this up.

Blast_ · 10-10-2006, 11:41 AM

Excellent work guys.

dwm230000 · 10-10-2006, 03:47 PM

I thought you were going to call it the "Martel List" instead of the blacklist.

Blap Blaow · 10-10-2006, 04:15 PM

Nice!

Has the 'buy out' option been completely scratched, or is it still under consideration?

RBEliminator · 10-10-2006, 04:18 PM

I'd love to see some names go up

adoniscomplex · 10-10-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

Nice!

Has the 'buy out' option been completely scratched, or is it still under consideration?

i thought tht was what the do 3 paid logs thing was

Blap Blaow · 10-10-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adoniscomplex

i thought tht was what the do 3 paid logs thing was

Yeah, but in my original proposal there was also the suggestion that the reviewer could pay the sponsoring company back full retail price for redemption for the blacklist. Perhaps it could be a company by company decision?

I'm pretty neutral on it to be honest, it's just another option.

punksurfer024 · 10-10-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

Yeah, but in my original proposal there was also the suggestion that the reviewer could pay the sponsoring company back full retail price for redemption for the blacklist. Perhaps it could be a company by company decision?

I'm pretty neutral on it to be honest, it's just another option.

i like this as another option.

deserusan · 10-10-2006, 08:37 PM

I'm in balls deep!

EMISGOD · 10-10-2006, 09:00 PM

Why is a ban also included?

Blast_ · 10-10-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

Yeah, but in my original proposal there was also the suggestion that the reviewer could pay the sponsoring company back full retail price for redemption for the blacklist. Perhaps it could be a company by company decision?

I'm pretty neutral on it to be honest, it's just another option.

Nice job blap Btw