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    Coffee Grinder grinds up oats?

    I use oats in my post workout shake and it sucks when my blender doesn't blend up the oats completely. Does anyone else use oats in their shake and use a coffee grinder to grind em up into a powder?
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    I'm pretty sure lots of people on this site use a coffe grinder. I don't putoats in my shakes, but when I start I'm gonna put them threw a grinder first.
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    I used to make oat shakes and they ground up into a very fine powder.

    Maybe its time for a new coffee grinder?
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    no i just put them in the blender, if its decent it will cut them up themselves for rolled oats, steel cut oats your gonna want a grinder
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    I tried it and it was terrible. I have 3 different coffee grinders, ground the things up as finely as humanly possible and it was just a big chunk of grit at the bottom of the glass. I'd rather take the 40 minutes and just cook them next time

    this is with steel cut rolled oats BTW
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    yeh just get regular rolled oats, realize by grinding you are killing the gi of steel cut oats anyway.
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    ^^I don't think so, because you are not actually filtering out or refining anything. Hell, you're not even cooking anything. I could be wrong though. Anyhow I have a Mr. Coffee coffee grinder and it grinds up my steel cut oats just fine. I have it for breakfast and PWO. It does settle at the bottom though if you don't shake it and drink it right away. I usually bring a spoon with me for this reason.
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    Originally Posted by youthman
    ^^I don't think so, because you are not actually filtering out or refining anything. Hell, you're not even cooking anything. I could be wrong though. Anyhow I have a Mr. Coffee coffee grinder and it grinds up my steel cut oats just fine. I have it for breakfast and PWO. It does settle at the bottom though if you don't shake it and drink it right away. I usually bring a spoon with me for this reason.
    True, and oats have viscous soluble fiber, so they're slowly absorbed anyway.

    http://www.wholegrain.umn.edu/grains/oats.cfm
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    uhh yeah it does, what do you think the whole process is.. what do you think flour is from whole grains...your essentially making oat flour. your doing a smaller job of what the mill does in your coffee grinder, thats why steel cut (thicker) are lower gi than rolled (thinner) , instant oats (even thinner) and if you grind it into powder, it will be even higher gi. its all the same stuff just as you crush and cut it up its absorbption rates change. its not a big deal, but that is what is happening. how do you think they make instant oats... grinding them, exactly what you guys are doing, save your money and just buy the instant oats if your going to do them that way. don't think your getting some magic better food by getting steel cut, your not, unless you eat them AS IS.
    what makes you more full, something solid, or liquid or powdered, think about it ... whats better juice or the fruit... think about it guys. i grind them up myself somewhat in a blender but know its not as good for me as if i were to eat cooked steel cut, or even WHOLE oats.
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    Coffe grinder does indeed grind oats to a powder. I add to egg whites, and that works just fine, haven't tried in a shake. If eating with whey, I take the few minutes to cook them as well.
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    I just chuck mine in the blender, but at times there are some unblended bits at the bottom.
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    Originally Posted by Jules Verne
    Coffe grinder does indeed grind oats to a powder. I add to egg whites, and that works just fine, haven't tried in a shake. If eating with whey, I take the few minutes to cook them as well.
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    You guys are refering to a spice grinder, right, the kind with the sharp blade that you press the cap to engage. A coffee grinder which I also have uses a crushing motion designed to extract the natural oil in the beans.......just clarifying in case people start dropping oatmeal in their coffee grinders...which would be a bad idea.
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    *shrugs*

    Last coffee grinder I owned turned the beans to dust.

    Edit: guess its a spice grinder, never seen one of the other ones.
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    Originally Posted by garlichead
    You guys are refering to a spice grinder, right, the kind with the sharp blade that you press the cap to engage. A coffee grinder which I also have uses a crushing motion designed to extract the natural oil in the beans.......just clarifying in case people start dropping oatmeal in their coffee grinders...which would be a bad idea.
    good point. the "spice" grinders which have a spinning blade are fine for grinding oats (or just about everything else short of stone). the coffee mills that use a crushing type of action would get clogged from the oats--these kind you usually put the beans in the top, and the ground coffee is collected in a separated chamber underneath.
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    uhh yeah it does, what do you think the whole process is.. what do you think flour is from whole grains...your essentially making oat flour. your doing a smaller job of what the mill does in your coffee grinder, thats why steel cut (thicker) are lower gi than rolled (thinner) , instant oats (even thinner) and if you grind it into powder, it will be even higher gi. its all the same stuff just as you crush and cut it up its absorbption rates change. its not a big deal, but that is what is happening. how do you think they make instant oats... grinding them, exactly what you guys are doing, save your money and just buy the instant oats if your going to do them that way. don't think your getting some magic better food by getting steel cut, your not, unless you eat them AS IS.
    what makes you more full, something solid, or liquid or powdered, think about it ... whats better juice or the fruit... think about it guys. i grind them up myself somewhat in a blender but know its not as good for me as if i were to eat cooked steel cut, or even WHOLE oats.

    My point is with flour vs. whole wheat - the flour is actually filtered (the fiber bran and germ are removed), and this has the biggest effect on the GI. Not to mention the milling process partially cooks the wheat. Why do you think it has to be "fortified (nutrients added back in)?"

    This is my opinion on oats. I don't have any facts, but just from my basic knowledge of some chemistry and food this is what I think. Maybe if you have more factual information you can correct me:

    First of all, instant oats and even rolled oats are NOT just ground up oats! Rolled oats are also steamed. Instant oats are actually precooked and dried. In both cases you are altering the molecular structure of the food itself. You are NOT altering the molecular structure of steel cut oats by grinding them. On a molecular (biochemical) level, they are still the same. Steel cut oats most closely resemble the natural whole grain (in other words the least refined of all oats). Otherwise, anything that is thin sliced could also become high GI. Now when you steam and/or dehydrate something, you are altering the structure on a biochemical level. Right?

    As far as your juice comparison - well obviously by juicing something you are filtering out most of the fiber. Mash up a whole orange in a bowl, pulp included, and it is no different than eating orange slices. Run it through a juicer and you've extracted all of the fiber.

    So IMO, ground steel cut oats > ground instant oats.
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    im sure 100 people said this but yes it will grind them into pure powder (like flour) in less than 10 seconds... BUTTTTTTTT hear me out... tonight for the FIRST time i just put strait oats in the blender with my berrys and **** (didnt grind them first) decided i needed to stop bein a pussy and turning them into dust first... and to tell you the truth the blender chops them up PLENTY... no need for a coffie grinder...
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    Originally Posted by youthman
    My point is with flour vs. whole wheat - the flour is actually filtered (the fiber bran and germ are removed), and this has the biggest effect on the GI. Not to mention the milling process partially cooks the wheat. Why do you think it has to be "fortified (nutrients added back in)?"

    This is my opinion on oats. I don't have any facts, but just from my basic knowledge of some chemistry and food this is what I think. Maybe if you have more factual information you can correct me:

    First of all, instant oats and even rolled oats are NOT just ground up oats! Rolled oats are also steamed. Instant oats are actually precooked and dried. In both cases you are altering the molecular structure of the food itself. You are NOT altering the molecular structure of steel cut oats by grinding them. On a molecular (biochemical) level, they are still the same. Steel cut oats most closely resemble the natural whole grain (in other words the least refined of all oats). Otherwise, anything that is thin sliced could also become high GI. Now when you steam and/or dehydrate something, you are altering the structure on a biochemical level. Right?

    As far as your juice comparison - well obviously by juicing something you are filtering out most of the fiber. Mash up a whole orange in a bowl, pulp included, and it is no different than eating orange slices. Run it through a juicer and you've extracted all of the fiber.

    So IMO, ground steel cut oats > ground instant oats.
    Exactly. This is my copy and paste thread I like to post from time to time about the grinding oats issue.

    If anyone is having a hard time eating oats or getting enough calories. Stop and listen to this post. Grinding steel cut oats up in a coffee grinder and throwing them in a shake is by far the easiest way to slam them down not to mention you can make some extremely cheap weight gainer shakes that are very good for you.

    Step 1:
    Buy a coffee grinder. They are cheap and you can buy them almost anywhere. I bought one at Target but anyplace like Walmart will have them. Here's an example:

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    Look at the nutritional value on this stuff:

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    Serving Size 1/4 cup(40g)
    Servings Per Container 17.00
    Calories 140.00
    Calories from Fat 25.00
    Total Fat 2.50g
    Saturated Fat 0.50g
    Trans Fat 0.00g
    Cholesterol 0.00mg
    Sodium 0.00mg
    Total Carbohydrate 27.00g
    Dietary Fiber 4.00g
    Sugars 0.00g
    Protein 6.00g
    Ingredients whole grain oats

    Step 3:
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    EVERY day I have serveral of the following shakes.

    16oz ice cold skim milk
    1/2 ground steel cut oats
    1 scoop of ON whey.

    571 calories
    77 grams of carbs
    53 grams of protein
    7 grams of fat.

    Obviously you can experiment with whatever you want to throw in there. Any fruits, peanut butter, etc etc. work perfectly.

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    before you buy the grinder try and throw them strait in the blender... im telln you im pissed that i havent been doing this all along now... the blender grinds them up PLENTYYY... PLUS the fact that its a pain in the ass f'in with the grinder EVERY time you make a shake.. if your going to grind them though... grind a bunch at a time cause the ginder is a pain in the ass... man up and toss the grinder (not really manin up since it tastes the same i think lol)... SAVE TIME and remember this is coming from someone that took a hour to eat a cup of oats in the cooked form a month ago and now they are like ice cream =)
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    The grinder is easy as hell to use and only takes 10 seconds. Not to mention I hardly ever have to wash mine. This keeps me from having to use the blender and wash the blender which takes 4 times the amount of time it would for me to grind them up and throw them in a shaker.

    Not to mention my blender is a POS and in no way would grind up steel cut oats. Grinder for the win.
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    Indeed the grinder is the easiest and quickest thing to use. With the one I use I just pour in some oats, hold down the lid which automatically turns on the grinder, and within 10 seconds I have ground oats. On top of that it's dry so you really don't have to wash it very often.
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    Originally Posted by youthman
    Indeed the grinder is the easiest and quickest thing to use. With the one I use I just pour in some oats, hold down the lid which automatically turns on the grinder, and within 10 seconds I have ground oats. On top of that it's dry so you really don't have to wash it very often.
    im guessing the black and decker one? lol i have that one... and as you know (if you have that one) you can only get aboue 1/2 cup of oats in their... my point is... get a $29 blender (just got from walmart) and YOUR OATS WILL GRIND IN THEIR JUST AS WELL... give it a try... just trying to save you all a step...
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    The difference of grinders

    C-Mill grinder is the one that you would use with oats

    Burr Mill is the one you wouldn't use (but is better for coffee)


    Rolled oats don't work so well in a C-Mill grinder (atleast not for me)
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    Originally Posted by garlichead
    You guys are refering to a spice grinder, right, the kind with the sharp blade that you press the cap to engage.

    That is what I use. Even though it is touted as a coffee grinder.

    http://www.amazon.com/MR-COFFEE-Mr-C...874461?ie=UTF8


    Perhaps I should get a real coffee grinder for my coffee?
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    I grind my oats, but i dont put them in my shakes. I usually just eat an apple and some water, creatine and whey post workout.

    Works good IMO. You can get grinders cheap, too; I got mine for $10 a year ago. Its very simple but does everything that I need it to.
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    I have never had any trouble blending rolled oats. They settle out of my shake but they are still finely ground. Maybe you just need a better blender?
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    i use a coffe grinder for my rolled oats , i think it works well
    and oats with on exterme choc whey in milk is amaing
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    I will grind a few cups at a time and put them in disposable tupperware(1cup) and keep them in my office. I also have containers with ON whey that i keep at the office too.

    I put 1 cup of oats (powder form) and a scoop of whey in a shaker cup and add water. I don't have any problem with it settling.
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    Originally Posted by DriverDan
    I have never had any trouble blending rolled oats. They settle out of my shake but they are still finely ground. Maybe you just need a better blender?
    EXACTLY... everyone that GRINDSSSS their oats... just give it a try throwing them into the blender (without grinding them first) because i even tryed this on my old piece of **** blender and it still chopped them up almost into powder or at least small enough where they arnt noticable... give it a try... its so nice not havin to fcuk with the grinder anymore...
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