Glock Trigger

[El Gilbro]

In a thread discussing handguns a month or two ago, a couple of posters expressed their discuss with the feel of the triggers on Glocks. Somebody, I believe it was Nuggz, said that for $35-$40 you could have trigger work done (or you could do it yourself if you were knowledgeable enough). It sounded like a routine thing that is done to Glocks. I searched for this thread and couldn't find it.

Here's my situation:

In the next month or two, I'd like to buy a new handgun. Currently, I carry a S&W .357 MAG revolver. As you can imagine, concealing this piece isn't the easiest thing in the world. To compliment this, I'm leaning towards a 9mm semi-auto, and would be using the revolver for in my vehicle or home. I don't want particularly want to take a chance on a Taurus and I can't really afford something like a Kimber (I just bought a new house). This is leading me towards a Glock (been looking at the Glock 19).

What exactly is it about Glock triggers that make them "uncomfortable"? In the meantime, I'm going to try to get out to the range with somebody that has a Glock so I can try the trigger for myself. Any help/input would be appreciated (with Reps for those that are truly helpful).

Thanks.

[NuggzTheNinja]

In a thread discussing handguns a month or two ago, a couple of posters expressed their discuss with the feel of the triggers on Glocks. Somebody, I believe it was Nuggz, said that for $35-$40 you could have trigger work done (or you could do it yourself if you were knowledgeable enough). It sounded like a routine thing that is done to Glocks. I searched for this thread and couldn't find it.

Here's my situation:

In the next month or two, I'd like to buy a new handgun. Currently, I carry a S&W .357 MAG revolver. As you can imagine, concealing this piece isn't the easiest thing in the world. To compliment this, I'm leaning towards a 9mm semi-auto, and would be using the revolver for in my vehicle or home. I don't want particularly want to take a chance on a Taurus and I can't really afford something like a Kimber (I just bought a new house). This is leading me towards a Glock (been looking at the Glock 19).

What exactly is it about Glock triggers that make them "uncomfortable"? In the meantime, I'm going to try to get out to the range with somebody that has a Glock so I can try the trigger for myself. Any help/input would be appreciated (with Reps for those that are truly helpful).

Thanks.

Glock triggers aren't bad, they're just snappy. They have good reset if you know how to use that.


I personally don't like them but a lot of guys do, just shoot one at a range and see if you like it.

[GREENFEATHER]

I despise Glock, I'd rather come at you with a knife than that sorry assed excuse for a handgun!! Why don't you look at used handguns? I can tell you first hand that I've fired over 500,000 rounds through my Sig with ZERO parts failures!! See if you can put a higher end gun on lay away , some shops will do this for 90 days. I'd rather see you get something good even if it takes more time. Most shops will do transfers as well, pick up a copy of Sotgun News and find something there. Here's another place I've used before to pick up some good deals.

http://www.gunbroker.com/

[NuggzTheNinja]

I despise Glock, I'd rather come at you with a knife than that sorry assed excuse for a handgun!! Why don't you look at used handguns? I can tell you first hand that I've fired over 500,000 rounds through my Sig with ZERO parts failures!! See if you can put a higher end gun on lay away , some shops will do this for 90 days. I'd rather see you get something good even if it takes more time. Most shops will do transfers as well, pick up a copy of Sotgun News and find something there. Here's another place I've used before to pick up some good deals.

http://www.gunbroker.com/

Why the Glockbeef out of curiosity?

[El Gilbro]

Why the Glockbeef out of curiosity?

I was just about to ask the same thing.


Any suggestions on other brands/models for concealed carry? If I can find a decent used gun, I wouldn't be against buying it. My main problem is justifying this purchase with my wife. I can probably get away with something in the $500 range. I'm looking to get rid of two long guns, so depending on what I'd get for them, I might be able to go a little higher.

[NuggzTheNinja]

I was just about to ask the same thing.


Any suggestions on other brands/models for concealed carry? If I can find a decent used gun, I wouldn't be against buying it. My main problem is justifying this purchase with my wife. I can probably get away with something in the $500 range. I'm looking to get rid of two long guns, so depending on what I'd get for them, I might be able to go a little higher.

Out of curiosity, what long-guns do you wanna ditch?

My problem with the Glock is that it's a ergonomic clusterf-ck, and that the unsupported chamber causes the gun to explode in the event of a blown primer or overpressure.

I've seen pictures of guys who have had their Glocks kaboom, with shrapnel from the frame embedded in their forearms and face, so...not a fan.

If you want something Glock-ish, get an XD. Same price more or less.

[El Gilbro]

The long guns are simple "starter" guns I got when I first started hunting at age 12. There's a single-shot break-action 20 gauge Topper Model 158 (made by Harrington and Richardson, I believe) that I used for small game. The other one is a lever action 30-30 Winchester Ranger that I used for deer.

[NuggzTheNinja]

The long guns are simple "starter" guns I got when I first started hunting at age 12. There's a single-shot break-action 20 gauge Topper Model 158 (made by Harrington and Richardson, I believe) that I used for small game. The other one is a lever action 30-30 Winchester Ranger that I used for deer.

What are you asking for the lever action bro?

A buddy of mine in NYC is a fan, since he can't pack any decent semi.

[El Gilbro]

What are you asking for the lever action bro?

A buddy of mine in NYC is a fan, since he can't pack any decent semi.

At first, I was thinking around $150-$200 (just to unload a deer rifle I haven't used in a long time). But I've been advised by a buddy to have a collector/dealer check it out before I sell it privately. It's stamped 1894-1994. In researching this a little on the internet, it appears that it's their "centennial" model and may be worth a little more than I thought.

You don't happen to know if there's any gun "blue book" sites on the internet for free, do you?

If I remember correctly, my dad bought my shotgun used from a friend of his. He only paid $75, or something. I don't think it would bring much money at all. I often thought of sawing it down to 18.5" (keep that extra half inch to play it safe with the law) just to have something to play with when I target shoot.

[NuggzTheNinja]

At first, I was thinking around $150-$200 (just to unload a deer rifle I haven't used in a long time). But I've been advised by a buddy to have a collector/dealer check it out before I sell it privately. It's stamped 1894-1994. In researching this a little on the internet, it appears that it's their "centennial" model and may be worth a little more than I thought.

You don't happen to know if there's any gun "blue book" sites on the internet for free, do you?

If I remember correctly, my dad bought my shotgun used from a friend of his. He only paid $75, or something. I don't think it would bring much money at all. I often thought of sawing it down to 18.5" (keep that extra half inch to play it safe with the law) just to have something to play with when I target shoot.

I don't know if there's a way to get an accurate appraisal on something like that.

I've got superman #1, but my mother drew mustaches all over the characters so it isn't worth ****. NIB the value would be significantly higher than something that's seen use, for a collector's item, but it's probably worth more than your similar rifle.

Don't know what to tell you.

Check out Gunsamerica and gunbroker (both .com's), see what similar models in similar condition are going for. That's the best way to check an estimate.

[GREENFEATHER]

Why the Glockbeef out of curiosity?

Personally, it's the jammingest piece of **** I ever owned bro. I couldn't get the thing to go 2-3 rounds without stovepiping or failing to feed and it didn't matter what ammo I used. Not even their factory tech could figure it out. It went back to Austria and the found that the rails were out .0121. They swapped pistols and I promptly sold it to buy a SIG, never looked back. I own a NIB 21 that will stay that way unless my SIG finally has a failure and the 1911 is out of commission as well. I just don't have any faith in their weapon system. It takes quite a bit to put me off a weapon system.

[The Abomination]

Personally, it's the jammingest piece of **** I ever owned bro. I couldn't get the thing to go 2-3 rounds without stovepiping or failing to feed and it didn't matter what ammo I used. Not even their factory tech could figure it out. It went back to Austria and the found that the rails were out .0121. They swapped pistols and I promptly sold it to buy a SIG, never looked back. I own a NIB 21 that will stay that way unless my SIG finally has a failure and the 1911 is out of commission as well. I just don't have any faith in their weapon system. It takes quite a bit to put me off a weapon system.

Quit limp wristing it...lol...naw, I'm with you...my dept makes me carry a Glock...no exceptions...never had a problem with it except with ****ty ammo and the fact it's very tempermental to your shooting flaws...GLOCK had to recall a bunch of our issued weapons due to crappy rails....but comparing it to a SIG is like apples and oranges...I've never had a nicer gun than my SIG 40 and I've owned plenty of guns...I think they're making some smaller framed guns now that are easier to conceal...

[GREENFEATHER]

The POS I owned jammed in a rest as well. I have ZERO faith in that weapon system. SIG, S&W, Colt or Kimber for me.

[NuggzTheNinja]

The POS I owned jammed in a rest as well. I have ZERO faith in that weapon system. SIG, S&W, Colt or Kimber for me.

Every company produces a few lemons.

I won't go into how many Kimbers I've seen that don't work for **** out of the box.

My beef with Glock is that even when they work 100%, they are still a faulty design for a number of reasons. Unsupported chamber, horrible sights, horrible ergonomics.

[Geno]

I can point you to the article that goes over a good trigger job and it's not hard to do it yourself.

The stock trigger is way too heavy, too long and too creepy. That's really the only problem I have with Glocks. I've put a ****load of rounds through my 26 and my 33 with no problems at all. Once you get the trigger fixed up it's a sweet shooter with no further mods. Oh, except for the pearce mag extender - I have to have that to get my little finger on the baby glock grip and it doesn't make it as big as the next one up in size.

[Geno]

The POS I owned jammed in a rest as well. I have ZERO faith in that weapon system. SIG, S&W, Colt or Kimber for me.

I had so many colts that wouldn't hit a bull in the butt that I gave up on them. I don't like there ar's either.

[Mafia_Prince]

long time reader first time posting. I love my Glocks, I own a model 22 in .40cal, and 19 in 9mm. I've put em both thru alot the 9mm actually degreased, froze, put in mud and ran it over with my car and it still fired. Cleaned it up and the only thing bent a little was the slide release. The 22 I carry on duty so I wasn't about to run it over with a vehicle. A side from having to compensate a little when it becomes lighter when the magazine empties I think it's an awesome handgun.

If your looking for a smaller revolver Ruger SP101 is an excellent one. It's five shot for 357 mag and they make it in a spurless hammer. I carry one for a back up weapon it's also excellent for shooting .38 +P handels recoil like a champ. But I own many handguns from a .45 1911, sigsauer, H&K, S&W, Ruger, Colt, Glock, Old Walthers. My personal favorites are glocks and rugers.

[lanzo]

If you want something Glock-ish, get an XD. Same price more or less.

+1 for the XD

[NuggzTheNinja]

+1 for the XD

That's what's in my holster.

[lanzo]

nice

[BlueBayou]

Ive been shooting Glocks for over a decade now, own four now, have owned two more of them, and have shot many other peoples' Glocks. I have seen (1) failure to feed in all that time, and never a failure to extract or eject.

Glocks are generally considered by most gun experts to be the most reliable common autoloading pistol out there. Its reliability is second to none. No gun is perfect, but the image given by the disgruntled poster is far from accurate of the Glock's general performance. Also, the kaboom issue is a non-issue with factory ammo. It is only an issue with out of spec reloads.
The Glock model 22 .40 S&W is the #1 selling handgun to law enforcement agencies in America. They must be doing something right.

As far as the trigger, its better than most, but can be made even better. The factory connector[this is the part that controls the power needed to overcome the 'break' at the very last part of the trigger pull] is a little stiffer than it needs to be, and is more for Glock's liability than for the shooter. The Glock is accurate as is, but can be made more accurate for about $10-20, the price of a 3.5 lb connector. The connector change only affects the last part of the trigger pull, the 'break'. I love the Glock trigger. It has a very short trigger reset, and allows you to shoot very rapidly and accurately with it if you want.

Here is the linky:
http://www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/
This is very simple to do, and hard to screw up. The Glock is the easiest pistol to detail strip there is.

also, go to the GlockTalk forum here:
http://glocktalk.com/

[Geno]

http://www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/

http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005...-not-suck.html

The second one is more in depth and will really make a decent trigger on your glock. I have two that I've done this to myself and they are quite nice to shoot.

[Achilles_]

Man looking through this thread has only confused me more on what pistol to buy(When I turn 21). Glock, XD, S&W, Sig, so many options! We should create a poll...

[Mafia_Prince]

My first handgun was a Glock model 22, I treat it better than my girlfriend. When shooting stay away from the cheap ammo anything made by Wolf or re-loads. Re-loads will also void your warranty on most handguns if it malfunctions. As for figuring out which one to buy, ya just need to buy it or rent it at a range a few times to see if it feels right in your hand. I just bought my buddy's .22 Ruger markII pistol for $150, it has a 9" barrel very smooth gun.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Man looking through this thread has only confused me more on what pistol to buy(When I turn 21). Glock, XD, S&W, Sig, so many options! We should create a poll...

Shoot them all, see what you like the most.

Of those, I'd have to say Sig for a single stack or XD for a double stack.

Sig's handguns are definately of higher quality than the XD, but the XDs take double-stack magazines...hold more ammunition.

The price is also a factor. Sigs cost $200-500 more than the XD.

[Achilles_]

Shoot them all, see what you like the most.

Of those, I'd have to say Sig for a single stack or XD for a double stack.

Sig's handguns are definately of higher quality than the XD, but the XDs take double-stack magazines...hold more ammunition.

The price is also a factor. Sigs cost $200-500 more than the XD.

Right now the XD is looking pretty good. I like the price too! (gb.com is sweet!)

[BlueBayou]

Shoot them all, see what you like the most.

Of those, I'd have to say Sig for a single stack or XD for a double stack.

Sig's handguns are definately of higher quality than the XD, but the XDs take double-stack magazines...hold more ammunition.

The price is also a factor. Sigs cost $200-500 more than the XD.

Hey Nuggz. Did you know the XD is made in Croatia? Ya know anything about Croatia's society? They have one of the largest openly Nazi, anti-Semitic populations in the world. It isnt controlled either, and the gov doesnt care. At ball games, or just about any other get-together there, you will see swastikas made out of the crowd, Heil Hitler salutes, goosetepping, etc. Look it up.

How nice does that XD look now? At least Austria rejected that stance a half a century ago...

Besides- the Glock is a far superior weapon and the reliability[in both failures, and breakages] of the XD's is much more of an issue. They are on an even keel as far as accuracy, while the Glock trigger is a little faster. The Glock's finish[EDIT: as far as rust, dent, and scratch-resistance], is much more durable based on all accounts of the XD's in comparison. There is much more customization and parts available for the Glock.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Hey Nuggz. Did you know the XD is made in Croatia? Ya know anything about Croatia's society? They have one of the largest openly Nazi, anti-Semitic populations in the world. It isnt controlled either, and the gov doesnt care. At ball games, or just about any other get-together there, you will see swastikas made out of the crowd, Heil Hitler salutes, goosetepping, etc. Look it up.

How nice does that XD look now? At least Austria rejected that stance a half a century ago...

Besides- the Glock is a far superior weapon and the reliability[in both failures, and breakages] of the XD's is much more of an issue. They are on an even keel as far as accuracy, while the Glock trigger is a little faster. The Glock's finish is much more durable based on all accounts of the XD's in comparison. There is much more customization and parts available for the Glock.

I definately don't like the history of the XD, but that's Springfield's fault for doing business with a rag-sympathizing company.

As far as the XD though, I still feel it's a superior weapon aside from its finish.

It has an arguably more comfortable grip, better sights, and passed the exactly same torture test as Glock.

Once parts manufacture catches up with demand, they'll start selling them to the public. It won't be an issue. Right now though you're right, you can't get them yourself really.

When I bought it, I was looking strictly at function, but I'm definately not happy about giving money to those people that Clinton should have bombed.

[guest89]

Besides- the Glock is a far superior weapon and the reliability[in both failures, and breakages] of the XD's is much more of an issue. They are on an even keel as far as accuracy, while the Glock trigger is a little faster. The Glock's finish is much more durable based on all accounts of the XD's in comparison. There is much more customization and parts available for the Glock.

Yeah, ^. The Glock in .40 can be a hand grenade, even then from what I understand they only have problems with reloads. In 9mm and .45 they are ok. Lately I've been hearing about a lot of problems with XDs. (although some people get a weapon and have flawless performance). XD Grip and trigger are prefered by some people.

I'd personally choose a Colt, Sig, or H&K. Glock is a good weapon, but I hate the grip on them... Im also not a fan of DAO triggers. And I think they are just plain FUGLY.

[smokeater]

Personally, it's the jammingest piece of **** I ever owned bro. I couldn't get the thing to go 2-3 rounds without stovepiping or failing to feed and it didn't matter what ammo I used. Not even their factory tech could figure it out. It went back to Austria and the found that the rails were out .0121. They swapped pistols and I promptly sold it to buy a SIG, never looked back. I own a NIB 21 that will stay that way unless my SIG finally has a failure and the 1911 is out of commission as well. I just don't have any faith in their weapon system. It takes quite a bit to put me off a weapon system.

Sounds like you just had a bad experience. I don't know of a pistol with a better reputation than the glock for FTF/FTE. That is the big reason why it's my preferred pistol. Oh well, we all have our preferences.