I was thinking about it the other night, and i actually think with this win he hurt his place in bodybuilding history. I believe he wont win another o', and if he does it will be one. So now, 50 years down the road he will just be a one or two time mr olympia winner, instead of one of the best bodybuilders not to win an o', like flex and levrone. I personally feel levrone, and especially flex will be remembered longer than jay, because they never won. Yeah, its a great feat to win, but im talking about jays legacy in the far off future. Who else think this may have hurt it?
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10-04-2006, 11:52 AM #1
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Jay Hurt His Place In History With Win
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I thought something similar earlier.
It annoys the hell outa me that the people who persistantly come second like flex and levrone, both amazing bodybuilders may I add, will be looked upon very well in the future, as nearly men, yet Jay may as you say now fade away as a one timer like dickerson.but who was lift
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Originally Posted by daniel77
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10-04-2006, 12:01 PM #10Originally Posted by seanpatrickb
Maybe if it was 1980 or something
But Jay Cutler broke the trend, he beat the reigning Mr Olympia after 8 years. The last person to beat a Mr Olympia was Haney in 1984 (I believe) against Bannout. Remember Bannout was a one time winner. For someone to beat a Mr Olmypia with an actual streak over 2 or 3 is unheard of.
Jay Cutler at the very least will be remmebered as the man who knocked Ronnie off after so many years which is quite memorable.
I mean look at how many people remmber Arnold winning in 1980 because he came back from years of retirement and beat Zane who was on a streak. This is like 1980 but even worse becuase the person doing it (Jay) never won an Olympia before like Arnold and the person being beat (Coleman) had a long streak of 8 unlike zanes 3.
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10-04-2006, 12:03 PM #11
People remember Flew and Levrone because they were great bodybuilders, not because they always came in second. You're saying no one would speak of levrone now if he had won the O? I don't believe that.
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Originally Posted by daniel77
Rich Gaspari almost came close, but Jay has actually done it.Ansew to the few pms I've gotten since popping back on-line...
NO I never got full amount back from 'him', still owed for FAKE t3 and wu fee... More than a year on I can't be bothered to carry on chasing it up.. Unfortunatly word is he is on another bb community forum still selling
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Yeah i mean imagine going down in history as yet another guy that tried and tried and was never good enough to win.....
Now Jay is going to have to settle for being the guy that fought and fought and made becoming Mr.Olympia his dream and main goal in life, unwilling to set his mind and heart on anything else until he got that title, and not only did he eventually get it....he got it through beating the current and best ever Mr.Olympia Ronnie coleman!!!
Something that everyone in the industry said was impossible to do.....
Your right......being a consistent first place loser is much better than earning the legacy of being a guy that had the heart, drive and determination to get his dream and totally shock the entire industry.....you musta been thinking long and hard about this one!!!!
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