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    Arrow Why did Ronnie lose?

    Is it possible that the only reason why he lost is that he didn't have a good form on Saturday? I think with the Sunday form he might have won, maybe this is the only reason. If they hadn't splitted it in 2 days he might simply have won.
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    I am a huge ronnie fan but that problem he was having with his lat was just tooooo much. It allowed jay to beat him on the back shots
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    You mean the lat tear? Is it official? Because over at mayhem at friend or relative (I'm not sure what she is) claims that Ronnie has no injuries.
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    you'd have a hard time finding an injured athlete that talks about injuries freely especially on a message board. There was clearly something wrong with his back during the show though
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    The official word is no injuries. I'm not convinced either way - in large part because the lighting on a stage can be tricky, and because his conditioning was a bit off - so it's hard to say whether we were looking at an injury or just symmetry gone off.
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    I bet if Ronnie had admitted an injury Badell would directly have made stupid comments...
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    check out the back shots, look at ronnie's left lat, half of it is missing. I noticed this right away as I was watching the show. ronnie's back shots were not even in the realm of what they usually are.

    between jay being at his best and ronnie at 85% with injuries and being off it is easy to see why jay won.
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    check out the back shots, look at ronnie's left lat, half of it is missing. I noticed this right away as I was watching the show. ronnie's back shots were not even in the realm of what they usually are.

    between jay being at his best and ronnie at 85% with injuries and being off it is easy to see why jay won.

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    Originally Posted by Flex500
    check out the back shots, look at ronnie's left lat, half of it is missing. I noticed this right away as I was watching the show. ronnie's back shots were not even in the realm of what they usually are.

    between jay being at his best and ronnie at 85% with injuries and being off it is easy to see why jay won.

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    in the back double biceps the left lat looks smaller but in the lat spread it doesn't look smaller. strange.
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    Ronnie should have won PERIOD.
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    Originally Posted by rudolph
    Is it possible that the only reason why he lost is that he didn't have a good form on Saturday? I think with the Sunday form he might have won, maybe this is the only reason. If they hadn't splitted it in 2 days he might simply have won.
    The judges told him what he should do after the prejudging. Looks like it was great advice.
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    Originally Posted by highwhey_14
    Ronnie should have won PERIOD.

    no way man. i'm a huge ronnie fan, but he lost fair and square. you have to give credit where it is due. jay dominated the back poses, and even the most muscular. pictures don't lie. ronnie was asymetrical and it was blatantly obvious. jay worked on his back to overtake coleman, and it definitely paid off.
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    Originally Posted by highwhey_14
    Ronnie should have won PERIOD.
    Hmmmm, Jay won every round during pre-judging. It wasn't even close. Why do you think Ronnie should have won? Because you're a fan? I respect that, but please have a little objectivity here.
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    yeah all the fanboys cry foul.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500
    check out the back shots, look at ronnie's left lat, half of it is missing. I noticed this right away as I was watching the show. ronnie's back shots were not even in the realm of what they usually are.

    between jay being at his best and ronnie at 85% with injuries and being off it is easy to see why jay won.

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    Looking at those pictures I don't understand how jay got such a huge victory in the prejudging. Ronnie's conditioning was suberb in those pictures; jay's was very good also, but Ronnie stood out. It should have been much closer and Ron should have won.
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    stop moaning, ronnies not in proportion he has huge quads which dont match his tiny calves, some of the worst tri's in the comp and the worst midsection of any Mr.O in history, his time was up, simple.
    and jay owned him on all back shots
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    yes, his triceps are really weak
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    I don't know guys, after looking at all the 98-99 videos of Ronnie, he looked amazing, I am a big Ronnie fan, but I think both him and Jay do not look that great. I cannot get over Jay's abs are so big and flat and weird, yes Ronnie has a huge belly, both of their abs do not look great in comparison with Dex, Melvin, and Victor.

    Coleman's Lat issue was clearly visible, not so much so the triceps, because if you look at Jay's front double bicep it is also obvious his weaker arm is noticeably smaller than his strong arm. That is normal though, so why dog on Ronnie's...I agree with the Lat issue, but arms wise...they both looked normal.

    However Ronnie's conditioning was crappy during the show, really crappy compared to the other competitiors, but Ronnie is just too cool, especially for his stunts at the tonight show, and his vids. Jay cutler has an abnormal Jaw, looks like Johnny Bravo and is a depressive crybaby, so it seems. I am sure he is a nice guy and I admire his drive and motivation, but opinions are like as*hol*s, everyone has them and they all stink.
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    Originally Posted by SemoBodybuilder
    Looking at those pictures I don't understand how jay got such a huge victory in the prejudging. Ronnie's conditioning was suberb in those pictures; jay's was very good also, but Ronnie stood out. It should have been much closer and Ron should have won.
    you need to look agian...sorry was waaaay soft in his back shots and legs all around, no tri, no in proportion his stomack was out of control, even his obliques looked like ****
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    ronnies chest looks smaller in the lat spread also next to jays
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    everyone needs to just get off the bandwagon becuase ronnie SHOULDNT have won.. JAY was in his BEST shape ever.. at 278lb he was the best hes looked, far beyond 2001 appearance. ronnie missed his mark, no politics bull****, no robbed bull****.. he lost fair and square! opinions can keep coming, but jay deserves every piece of that title this year. Not because hes been in second every year, not because he will do more for bodybuilding so they changed it up, not because the judges didnt want ronnie to beat lee haney's record. Not because ronnie's sorry ass excuse, that his trainer ruined it for him, BUT because jay cutler was the superior bodybuilder on stage that night.. and he was at his best, ronnie came up shy. thats it plain and simple!
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    Jay looked bad in prejuding...compared to alot of people.

    Take a look at the thread we had during the finals. Then take a look at the thread of the prejuding. Night and day of who everyone thought would win.


    During prejudgeing...even die hard Cutler fans said Jay looked off and Ronnie had him. But, come the Finals...Ronnie got tighter in the upperbody. And it made the bad lat even worse...meanwhile Jay came in looking as Ronnie has UNBEATABLE.

    It was a tale of 2 shows, I don't buy that Jay won prejudgeing. But, it is a good story, and would make everyone say it wa fair(that at best Ronnie lost the final but won prejudgeing).

    But, no matter what Ronnie got beat in the end from being off some and that hidious lat injury and tri. You can't goto war with anyone with only half your body...atleast Ronnie had the balls to try.
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    Okay, I have a question and didn't want to make a new thread.

    Is Ronnie coming back for 07?
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    Originally Posted by JACKIECHANFAN
    Okay, I have a question and didn't want to make a new thread.

    Is Ronnie coming back for 07?
    Unknown as of right now.

    My guess is a healthy Ron will go for a 9th Sandow... an unhealthy Ron will wait till 2008.
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    Why does everyone say he "lost"? As far as I know, NONE of the competitors lost. However, only one of them got first.
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