Are you a cop or a felon?

[timberwolf]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1257805

By the way, many police departments are starting to revaluate officers when it comes to body fat. The University of Montreal did a study and found that the average cop has a body fat of 23%. The average felon's body fat was 8%. The average cop's VO2Max was 37; the average felon's was 55. There is a trend toward changing this, but if you look at European cops verses North American cops, the difference is stellar.

Same article further down he answers this question...something more relevent to this forum...

Q: Is there a certain age where a man has to start worrying more about overtraining or start modifying his training in general because of age? When does it all start to go downhill?

[Gunn27]

The average felon has a bf of 8%? Yeah, sure.

[timberwolf]

The average felon has a bf of 8%? Yeah, sure.

Yeah, I rolled my eyes with that...

[GREENFEATHER]

All I have to say is............. STEP AWAY FROM THE DUNKIN' DONUTS!!!

[kimsquit]

The University of Montreal did a study and found that the average cop has a body fat of 23%.

Wow! It's dropped significantly since I lived there in the 1980's. Good for them!

[jmc53]

The average felon has a bf of 8%? Yeah, sure.

I can believe it.
There's a supplement many felons take that suppresses appetite - it's called Heroin!

[SR800]

That study is junk in and junk out. You can not make comparisons based upon one department. The State Police in Illinois are in Excellent Shape.

[ScottC]

I can believe it.
There's a supplement many felons take that suppresses appetite - it's called Heroin!

...or crystal meth!

[EMISGOD]

Yep. Junkies tend not to pack on the bf too much...

[Gunn27]

Yep. Junkies tend not to pack on the bf too much...

It doesn't exactly help with muscle mass either! Junkie felon's might be skinny bastards, but that doesn't mean they have low bf.

[JRT6]

Trust me on this, the average felon dosen't spend his time in the gym and eating health foods. Most couldn't do ten push ups even with a crack pipe in their mouths.

[joed]

...Junkie felon's might be skinny bastards, but that doesn't mean they have low bf.

You're right, but those dudes can run fast and far! That should count for somethin'.

[chief1450]

Retired Cop here (32 years).

Felons come in all shapes and sizes. If you run across one that is ripped, he just got out of prison.

The Cops I know that have been in the profession for more than 10 years are usually over weight.

[PainfulPleasure]

i became a felon when i was 13 and i had a bodyfat probably like 30% at the time

[Bulking_Brit]

...or crystal meth!

oooh yum, my favourite!!, Nothing beats a good crystal meth breakfast.

[EMISGOD]

It doesn't exactly help with muscle mass either! Junkie felon's might be skinny bastards, but that doesn't mean they have low bf.

What is the bf of a skeleton with skin stretched across it, do you imagine?

[Gunn27]

What is the bf of a skeleton with skin stretched across it, do you imagine?

In the case of drug addicts, it is surprisingly high. We're talking precentages of total mass here, of course. Every vital organ of a drug addict, for example, is packed full of high toxicity fat. That is how the body will store drug metabolites.

[Gunn27]

oooh yum, my favourite!!, Nothing beats a good crystal meth breakfast.

Good luck with the bulking.

[ScottC]

The Cops I know that have been in the profession for more than 10 years are usually over weight.

When I lived in Chicago the local convenience store near my condo was where part of the district met to do morning roll call, so the place was full of cops at 5a.m. Every time I would wade through the crowd to get a couple of apple fritters from the donut case, a beat cop would give me grief about it. He was shorter and heavier than me! Being from the hood and seeing me raid the donut case daily, I could give him grief back...which the other cops enjoyed too.

[Baldsnake]

I did a series of 12 Step AA meetings in the early 80s at Chino Mens Prison. The inmates in the hall were mostly buff and the guards had sloppy bellys. Anabolic Steroids were as popular inside the prison as was *******. The men just doubled up on the crap food, a little Dianabol and pumped away in the yard.

[empresscat]

I was actually wondering if that stat for felons was based on the prison population, in which they make more sense.

[bluescorpion]

All the FEMALE cops I have seen are pretty lean... why is that? Most of the Honolulu Police Dept. members I have seen are quite large and muscular... definitely spend time in the gym. I'm sure there are some overweight ones - it's just the built ones stand out in my memory

[manofmany]

Retired Cop here (32 years).

Felons come in all shapes and sizes. If you run across one that is ripped, he just got out of prison.

The Cops I know that have been in the profession for more than 10 years are usually over weight.

I'm resurrecting this thread because I found this post somewhat inaccurate.

I became a felon 5 days after turning 18 for something extremely dumb, that I spent no time in jail for and potentially ruined the career I was seeking. Now I have to be self-employed and although I do make great money, the impact the felony has had on my life is to the extreme.

I'm a felon, and I'm ripped and stronger than the average guy, but yet I'm still small at just under 170. When I was arrested I was told I was just too smart for my own good, but whatever. I have no DOC # nor have I been to prison. It just pisses me off the way some people classify all felons.

[JRT6]

In Ohio prisons don't have the weight equipment to get huge with ever since the break out 12 years ago when inmates used 45lb plates to bust through the cinderblock walls. I believe all they have now are machines with low weight stacks.

I do know for sure that most county jails have no weights to speak of.

I gave more thought to the article that was quoted at the beginning of this thread and all I can think is BS. I can walk through my jail right now I probably won't find one person in shape. When someone who is buffed does come to our facility we notice because it's unusual.

[ScottC]

I'm a felon, and I'm ripped and stronger than the average guy, but yet I'm still small at just under 170. When I was arrested I was told I was just too smart for my own good, but whatever. I have no DOC # nor have I been to prison. It just pisses me off the way some people classify all felons.

Thank you for standing up for all felons! Way to take a stand.[/sarcasm]


btw- how did you find this old thread in the Over 35 forum, were you searching for "felon" threads?

[JYD]

I didn't read the article but are there recommendations on which felonies to commit?

[3XD]

Hate to say it but I'd have to agree with the thread starter......especially with todays young gangbangers....these guys are in friggin great shape..and a lot of them are on some type of phycotic drug that makes them as strong as well .I should know...I worked Rikers Island here in NY for 8 years and in central bookings for another 10...I see these guys that come in and I see the cops who bring them there..wont go into details but sometimes it takes more than 3 cops to give one of these perps a corrective interview. remember that while most working guys like you and I have homes,bills and family to look after...these guys do nothing but eat, sleep,workout and plot.

[PeoplesChamp]

yea theres a reason why the Marvin Hagler when he fought Hitman Herns referred to his workout routine as the "jailhouse workout or he was in "jail". I have never been locked up, thank god, but have had family and friends who have. From what Ive seena and heard it can turn on out, feeble and cripple them destroy them mentally even physically and make life depressing, or the opposite turn one into an animal that is focused on tearning the walls down. That animal side plus aggression which is going to produce natural testosterone gives people that energy to workout making them huge and ripped. I mean there are crackheads and fatasses in jail, but a high percentage when theya re in the the yard works out. Plus pushups in your cell..I mean like the last gus said what else is there to do except ****, eat, sleep!!!!

[chief1450]

I'm resurrecting this thread because I found this post somewhat inaccurate.

I became a felon 5 days after turning 18 for something extremely dumb, that I spent no time in jail for and potentially ruined the career I was seeking. Now I have to be self-employed and although I do make great money, the impact the felony has had on my life is to the extreme.

I'm a felon, and I'm ripped and stronger than the average guy, but yet I'm still small at just under 170. When I was arrested I was told I was just too smart for my own good, but whatever. I have no DOC # nor have I been to prison. It just pisses me off the way some people classify all felons.

Now thats quite an accomplishment! CONGRADULATIONS!