Train for chin-ups and dips

[SURV]

Ok, the point is that I can't do even one single chin-up or dip. How should I train to be able do a few of them in a while?

Should I get more strength by doing other exercises first? Or should I do something else?

Thanks

[Sadao]

can do negatives, like not going up/down all the way.

[PanzeR-]

If you cant do any of em then it might be because you have a bit more fat than your average 16 years old. If thats the case, work on this.

To answer your question, most gym have dipping/chin machine with a counterweight. Really great for those who arent to make decent serie on those exercices.

[widebody195]

Try the assisted pullup/dip machine if your gym has one. If not, do negatives or ask for a spotter. Try parallel-grip chinups--those might be easier than pullups. For dips, do bench dips -- in a seated position, support your legs on a bench while doing dips from another bench.

[BaSsSiKk]

You can always say just jump on to the assisted machine. Truth is just in order to get good at BW exercises you must do em. Specificity is the key. Every opportunity you get, get on the dipping or pullup station and work on it.

[aqua-beowulf]

If you don't have an assisted machine, you can set a folding chair beneath, and slightly behind you and then rest your toes on it, to give yourself a slight assist. That's how I started way back when. Negatives are good too.

I'd wager as long as you're putting your time in on presses and rows, as you get stronger on them, you'll soon be dipping and chinning bodyweight. Just keep at it.

[Assertive Guy]

Ok, the point is that I can't do even one single chin-up or dip. How should I train to be able do a few of them in a while?

Should I get more strength by doing other exercises first? Or should I do something else?

Thanks

If you can't do any of the above, try Lat Pulldowns. It'll work all the same muscles. Try wide grip, close grip, over-hand, under-hand, behind head, down to chest. You'll be more than prepared for when you can do chin's then.

For dips, I'd just stick to plain old bench press, and do some additional work on your weakest part in that lift.

Assertive Guy

[GoJu]

If you can't do any of the above, try Lat Pulldowns. It'll work all the same muscles. Try wide grip, close grip, over-hand, under-hand, behind head, down to chest. You'll be more than prepared for when you can do chin's then.

For dips, I'd just stick to plain old bench press, and do some additional work on your weakest part in that lift.

Assertive Guy

If he wants to be stronger on bodyweight vertical pushing and pulling that won't help him, just keep doing both chins and dips. I find I gain easier on dips than chins, but what I did on both was to just keep doing a sets each day and try and add reps to each set, plus a lot of people have gotten good results from the later system or singles, so:

a set of 1, then if you can manage a set of 2, if you can manage a set of 3, something like that until you've gotten a load of reps, EVEN if it takes a while just do them they work.

also maybe lowering your bodyweight is a good idea along with strengthening your grip, a good wrist roller should help with this as forearm endurance is more what you want here on chins: check it - http://strengthcats.com/BNSwristrollerstrap.htm.

also you can do weighted negatives.

[SURV]

Thanks for all the replies they are very helpfull!