Anyone use Melanotan?

[spowers1]

If so, how well does it work for tanning, and is it worth trying? (I realize it's not a steroid, but it's not a supplement either, and it is sold through research companies so I guess that it's close enough to be posted here!) Just wondering... Thanks bros.

[Muscle_Density]

never tried it but essentially what I've heard is it increases the amount of pigment produced when exposed to the sun. Heard good thing about it.

[sikdogg]

I've tried Melanotan II and it will get you pretty dark... what i loved about it wasn't the tan but the boners.

[chan_ho_nam]

Originally Posted by sikdogg

I've tried Melanotan II and it will get you pretty dark... what i loved about it wasn't the tan but the boners.

Really...I might have to look into that.

[spowers1]

Thanks for the responces bros, I'll send some reps, do you think it would be effective on a guy with pale, white skin, glow in the dark type! I've never been able to get tan without burning, if I grow a beard or something it'll come in red! Typical Irish skin!

[sikdogg]

I would think that if anyone neede something like Melanotan, it would be guys with really light skin that have problems tanning...

[sikdogg]

Originally Posted by chan_ho_nam

Really...I might have to look into that.

Increased libido is a well-known side effect of Melanotan II. In fact, Melanotan II is the compound where Bremelanotide (PT-141) was derived from. The idea was to extract the libido enhancing properties of Melanotan II while eliminating the tanning properties... So far, anecdotal results shows that it wasn't very effective.

[Shike]

Originally Posted by sikdogg

Increased libido is a well-known side effect of Melanotan II. In fact, Melanotan II is the compound where Bremelanotide (PT-141) was derived from. The idea was to extract the libido enhancing properties of Melanotan II while eliminating the tanning properties... So far, anecdotal results shows that it wasn't very effective.

For some reason I always think of increased libido as a plus rather than side. Maybe I just enjoy being a single hornball!

[sikdogg]

I hear ya... in fact, the increased libido is the reason i tried it in the first place. Getting a nice dark tan was also good...

[chan_ho_nam]

Originally Posted by sikdogg

Increased libido is a well-known side effect of Melanotan II. In fact, Melanotan II is the compound where Bremelanotide (PT-141) was derived from. The idea was to extract the libido enhancing properties of Melanotan II while eliminating the tanning properties... So far, anecdotal results shows that it wasn't very effective.

Thanks for the reply, it could end up being a double edged sword for me then. Because I tan quite easily...unless I avoid the sun while I'm using it.

[Vadim Beliaev]

Originally Posted by sikdogg

I would think that if anyone neede something like Melanotan, it would be guys with really light skin that have problems tanning...

I dont think it will be effective for them tbh. Their bodies cannot produce much pigment naturally, all melanotan does is artificially emulate sun exposure, so if they cant produce it anyway, no amount of exposure will help.

[spowers1]

Thanks for all the replys guys! Anyone with really light skin ever tried it? Results?

[green_j_l]

prob a dumb question but is it legal to buy in the US?

[Shatter]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

I dont think it will be effective for them tbh. Their bodies cannot produce much pigment naturally, all melanotan does is artificially emulate sun exposure, so if they cant produce it anyway, no amount of exposure will help.

Umm, the pictures I have seen strongly dispute that. Mt2 was designed for very white people (type 1 and 2) to prevent skin cancer. It increases the melanin in the skin and sun exposure is a must. I'm not sure what you mean by artificially emulate sun exposure - you won't get dark by staying indoors. I think you might want to re-read exactly what mt2 is and how it works.

For anyone interested check a few of the results on melanotan dot org. I have a seen a few glowing white, redheads turn quite dark. It increases the melanin in the skin and, in theory, I've heard there is no law of diminishing returns (though someone could correct me on this). Basically, you can go from bleach white to dark black (with large and continual use).

As far as legality, it is a grey market substance. It is not illegal but you'll have to go through back avenues to get ahold of it, such as the site mentioned above.

[Shatter]

oh and here is an example of how powerful this stuff can be:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=900118

[Vadim Beliaev]

Originally Posted by Shatter

Umm, the pictures I have seen strongly dispute that. Mt2 was designed for very white people (type 1 and 2) to prevent skin cancer. It increases the melanin in the skin and sun exposure is a must. I'm not sure what you mean by artificially emulate sun exposure - you won't get dark by staying indoors. I think you might want to re-read exactly what mt2 is and how it works.

For anyone interested check a few of the results on melanotan dot org. I have a seen a few glowing white, redheads turn quite dark. It increases the melanin in the skin and, in theory, I've heard there is no law of diminishing returns (though someone could correct me on this). Basically, you can go from bleach white to dark black (with large and continual use).

As far as legality, it is a grey market substance. It is not illegal but you'll have to go through back avenues to get ahold of it, such as the site mentioned above.

It was just a guess on my part, thanks for correcting me.

[Number69]

Considering getting some, might help cover up some of the blemishes on my back from heavy test cycles too. As for the guy from Idaho with Irish skin - I am Irish. We don't even have a chance to burn! Any appearance of tan on my body is from hair!

[raysmith]

Bump

British and have pale skin.

I would buy some but going by this picture,
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=900118

people will just laugh and say its fake. Going from milk to a chocolate milkshake, will just look ridiculous.

Can anyone please provide info on doesages etc.?

[raysmith]

bump

has anyone got any info on dosages, how often to inject, where to inject etc.?

[Shatter]

Go to melanotan dot org and check out the forums. They have FAQs that cover EVERYTHING.

Personally, I have used about 25mg so far and have not had too much sun exposure. I am as white as they come and have now developed a very healthy looking tan. I was taking about 1.6mg/d but have cut the dosage in half, as I find it makes me lethargic and slightly nauseous (both common side effects). If you can handle the constant boners (which I quite enjoy hehe), this thing is truly a wonder drug. It's amazing being able to go out in the sun all day and not get burnt but instead return with a nice healthy tan. Having said that, I would not personally start tanning until you are about 20mg in. And make sure you are turning brown, without the red tinge -- you will notice a few people in their after shots are quite red and have obviously over exposed themselves in the sun and been burnt. I think everyone gets a little cocky on this drug, as far as how much sun they can handle.

[Shike]

I'd LOVE to try this stuff but it's just too darn expensive.

[Buffalohed]

That picture is awful. The guy literally looks like he has turned african-american from being pasty white. Is there some kind of middle-ground, like a lower dosage, that will leave you with a more natural and less drastic effect?

[raysmith]

Will be buying some in March-April.

Also do yo have to take it for the rest of your life if you want to stay brown or what?

[spowers1]

Originally Posted by raysmith

Will be buying some in March-April.

Also do yo have to take it for the rest of your life if you want to stay brown or what?

Anyone know?

[956Vette]

Originally Posted by spowers1

Anyone know?

yes, pretty much. once you get off of it, your tan with go as any normal tan fades. Doing 30mg over the course of a couple months...then a month later is time to take a cycle and reap the rewards more or less

[956Vette]

Melanotan II (MT-2)

MT-2 is a fairly new biotech polypeptide and there is no other substance in the world that will increase melanin (skin pigment) production in humans. This is the only substance that will actually induce a tan in people. You DO NOT need any UV exposure to tan with MT-2, but it does expedite the process.

Melanotan I & II – from wikipedia, are analogs of the peptide hormone alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) that tend to induce skin tanning and, in the case of melanotan II, increase libido.
Both drugs were developed at the University of Arizona. Researchers there knew that one of the best defenses against skin cancer was a natural tan which has been slowly developed over weeks. They hypothesized that an effective way to reduce skin cancer rates in people would be to induce the body's natural tanning system to produce a protective tan prior to UV exposure. They knew the body's naturally occurring hormone alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) caused melanogenesis, a process by which the skin's tanning cells (melanocytes) produce the skin's tanning pigment (melanin). With that knowledge they tested to see if administering this hormone to the body directly could be an effective method to cause sunless tanning. What they found was that while it appeared to work, natural alpha-MSH had too short a half life in the body to be practical as a drug. So they decided to try and find a more potent and stable alternative, one that would be more practical.
After synthesizing and screening hundreds of molecules, the researchers headed by Dr. Victor Hruby, found a peptide that after trials and testing seemed to not only be safe but also approximately 1,000 times more potent than natural α-MSH. They dubbed this new peptide Melanotan. Since their discovery, numerous studies dating back to the mid-1980s have shown no obvious toxic effects of Melanotan. Because skin cancer (melanoma) today is a major health concern, Melanotan is expected to be used as a drug to combat it. Melanotan will do this by stimulating the body's natural tanning mechanism to create a tan without first needing exposure to harmful levels of UV radiation. This in turn will reduce the potential for skin damage that can eventually lead to skin cancer.

Melanotan I

Melanotan has the amino acid sequence Ac-Ser-Tyr-Ser-Nle-Glu-His-D-Phe-Arg-Trp-Gly-Lys-Pro-Val-NH2 or [Nle4, D-Phe7]-alpha-MSH. Melanotan is currently being tested and developed under the name CUV1647 by the Australian company Clinuvel Pharmaceuticals, for indications such as Polymorphous Light Eruption (PMLE) and Actinic Keratosis (AK).

Melanotan II

Melanotan II has aphrodisiac properties. It is a cyclic lactam analog of alpha-MSH with the amino acid sequence Ac-Nle-cyclo[Asp-His-D-Phe-Arg-Trp-Lys]-NH2. Palatin Technologies of New Jersey has developed another hormone targeted towards Sexual dysfunction based upon melanontan II which they call Bremelanotide (formerly called PT-141). Bremelanotide is a metabolite of melanotan II that lacks the C-terminal amide function. Bremelanotide is currently in clinical trials to treat erectile dysfunction and sexual arousal disorder.

How it works:

MT-2 is a chemical analogue of a something the body naturally produces
called alpha-Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone (a-MSH). A-MSH is what induces skin cells called melanocytes to produce melanin -- the pigment that tans a person's skin and is responsible for the various colors of skin around the world in humans.

MT-2 out competes a-MSH for binding to melanocyte receptors in humans and other mammals because it has a binding affinity over 1000x more potent than
a-MSH. Therefore only milligrams are needed to do what would normally take lots of a-MSH to do.

When you are exposed to UV rays (whether tanning bed or sunshine) your body produces more a-MSH, hence the eventual tan. However, genetically pale people fall into one of two categories. They either do not sufficiently produce enough a-MSH, or their melanocytes have a weak affinity for a-MSH.

MT-2 overcomes both of these limitations. Anybody can get as dark as they like with MT-2, it is simply a matter of dosage - the more the darker you will get. The tan is 100 % real, so it fades as slowly as a real tan once you stop using (3-4 weeks average).

The only people MT-2 will not work for is pure albinos -- they're melanocyte receptors have zero affinity, thus even MT-2 simply cannot bind and hence they have no skin pigmentation. MT-2 will work unequivocally for everyone else, even very pale redheads can get very dark.

How it is used:

You need to be properly informed in the storing and usage of peptides
-- they denature rapidly if you mishandle them.

If you order 30 mg (which is a sufficient amount for a first-time beginner cycle) you will receive your 30 mg of "lyophilized" (it means
"freeze-dried") MT-2.

Put two vials in the freezer (deep freeze if you have one) -- DO NOT
RECONSTITUTE (reconstitute just means "mix" with bacteriostatic water) these vials. Just freeze them as is.

Then with the vial you are going to be using, reconstitute (mix with
bacteriostatic water).

To mix the vial with bact water, take one of the syringes (BD Ultrafine II 1cc or 1/3 cc are excellent and I recommend them) and grab your bacteriostatic water. If using a 1 cc syringe (100 units) use the syringe to withdraw 1 full ml (1cc) and inject that into the vial of MT-2 through the rubber. Be sure to aim the needle towards the glass, so that it will trickle down. Swirl the vial to thoroughly mix and let the peptide dissolve.

So now you have 100 units (1cc) of bacteriostatic water mixed with 10 mg of MT-2 in your vial.

Then inject roughly 100 units (1 cc) of air into the vial so that the vial is not a vacuum -- otherwise withdrawing peptide will be tricky because of suction in the vial. Don't inject too much air into the vial; otherwise the air pressure will push too much air back into the syringe when you try to withdraw the peptide for injection. Around 100 units usually works fine -- the "units" I'm using as a ref. for injecting are on the side of the syringes (100 unit = one full syringe).

Now, that the vial is mixed (reconstituted), when you withdraw 10 units of the substance, that equals 1 mg of MT-2. So 30 units would equal 3 mg, get the idea?

Now you're ready for subcutaneous injection. If you've never performed sub-q injection before, it's very simple, and if done right, you literally don't feel anything. The needles used for sub-q injection are extremely small (8 mm) and you only go in 5 mm or so -- just into fatty tissue beneath skin. NOT intravenous or intramuscular this is a bit more complicated. Certain diabetics perform sub-q injections with the same tiny needles you'll be using two-three times a day.

You can use the same syringe you used to add the bacteriostatic water to the vial for your first injection. But never use the same syringe twice on yourself -- this is a universal rule no matter what you're injecting. Syringes and bacteriostatic water are extremely cheap and you can get them with ease.

You will store the reconstituted (mixed) vial in your fridge -- NOT your freezer like the others.

I recommend 1 mg of MT-2 per day for the first week or so. One morning injection, or one in the evening, it is up to you. Remember, you will experience some nausea most likely for the first couple days. Listen to your body. It's nothing to be alarmed about, it's perfectly normal. Your body is simply finding a new homeostasis as it acclimates to the peptide in your blood. Your body adjusts within 2-4 days at the latest and you will never have any nausea again -- unless you come off MT-2 for a long time (over 2 months) and then resume heavy dosing. So remember, the nausea is COMPLETELY normal and entirely goes away. The harder and more frequent erections as a side effect however will persist for as long as you are taking MT-2. MT-2 is more powerful than Viagra in this regard, and that is why we are interested in the analogue version of MT-2 called PT-141 to treat ED as well!

After a week of 1 mg per day dosing you can play with the dose until desired shade of tan is achieved. From there, maintenance dosing is minimal. I usually just use 1 vial over 10 days and then take 2-3 weeks off completely, and then repeat.

Remember, the lyophilized MT-2 (freeze dried) will last in your freezer for 1 year. But once mixed with bact water, the MT-2 will degrade. YOU MUST STORE THE RECONSTITUTED MT-2 in the REFRIGERATOR -- NOT freezer. Also, there is no magic pill or formula here. Trial and error are critical to learning. Share your melanotan experience so that our research continues to prosper!

Where do I get Melanotan?
more info: http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/Ya...num=1160714342

[Env.S.P.]

Hiya,

I was considering using Melanotan, but not so sure now I have done some research. Any thoughts?

Are there any users of Melanotan from the UK? And if so, where abouts are you from? i.e. wales/england/ireland/scotland?

I am from Wales and not yet met anyone using it from Wales...if you're welsh and using, please could you drop me a line also.

Thanks

[krisinstl]

Originally Posted by Env.S.P.

Hiya,

I was considering using Melanotan, but not so sure now I have done some research. Any thoughts?

Are there any users of Melanotan from the UK? And if so, where abouts are you from? i.e. wales/england/ireland/scotland?

I am from Wales and not yet met anyone using it from Wales...if you're welsh and using, please could you drop me a line also.

Thanks

solid bump.

[Env.S.P.]

Solid bump?

[956Vette]

Originally Posted by Env.S.P.

Solid bump?

there are many users in your area. best to go to melanotan.org and read