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    oats make me soo sleepy

    hey guys, does anyone have the same problem?

    i'm even thinking about switching things around; fruit and high GI carbs + protein in the morning and oats in the evening, cause a bowl of oats knocks me out before sleep.

    EDIT: might this suggest I am insulin insensitive/over sensitive etc?
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    The sleep and stress doctor here, I'm just getting to oats on my herbal remedies for sleep. In tincture form they are good for jet lag and have calmative properties. So I imagine in the highly processed form some of the chemical constituents that have these properties are still present. You may be sensitive to them.

    Why is everybody one step ahead of my research on these subjects.
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    Originally Posted by asd1985
    hey guys, does anyone have the same problem?

    i'm even thinking about switching things around; fruit and high GI carbs + protein in the morning and oats in the evening, cause a bowl of oats knocks me out before sleep.

    EDIT: might this suggest I am insulin insensitive/over sensitive etc?
    That used to happen to me as well. The most probable reason is a hypoglycemia - low blood sugar. You smacked your system with a ton of carbs and your body over-cleared.

    A couple things you could try.
    1.) Add some fats and/or protein to the oats to slow down digestion.
    2.) Take 200-400 mg of ALA / R-ALA / K-R-ALA to help insulin response and sensitivity (I use Glucophase XR http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/glucoxr.html )

    I do both and have had good results.
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    cheers mate

    ive tried 1) adding fats and proteins, such as eating two whole eggs + whey shake with my oats

    will look into 2)

    What do you think are the consequences of this hypoglycemia and then insulin spike early in the morning with respect to fat loss? Do you think it will cause an increase in bf? I'm trying to cut at the mo.

    In the past when I've not had a massive complex carb-up in the morning I haven't had the late-morning crash. Weird cause I can have Hi GI carbs (juice, lots of fruit) fine; oats and maybe lots of wheat make me sleepy.
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    If I remember, oatmeal, milk, and turkey cause your body to secrete some kind of chemical that makes you rather sleepy.

    I remember reading in a magazine that to go to sleep easier, have an oatmeal cookie before bedtime =)
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    Originally Posted by asd1985
    cheers mate

    ive tried 1) adding fats and proteins, such as eating two whole eggs + whey shake with my oats

    will look into 2)

    What do you think are the consequences of this hypoglycemia and then insulin spike early in the morning with respect to fat loss? Do you think it will cause an increase in bf? I'm trying to cut at the mo.

    In the past when I've not had a massive complex carb-up in the morning I haven't had the late-morning crash. Weird cause I can have Hi GI carbs (juice, lots of fruit) fine; oats and maybe lots of wheat make me sleepy.
    If you are experiencing hypoglycemia and depending on how dramatic the insulin spike and blood sugar drop it, other hormones like cortisol and adrenaline (stress hormones) rise. This isn't good for business .

    I can also eat fruit up the wazzoo without any problem. It could be from the fructose since it is processed by your body differently.
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    Originally Posted by smallasian721
    If I remember, oatmeal, milk, and turkey cause your body to secrete some kind of chemical that makes you rather sleepy.

    I remember reading in a magazine that to go to sleep easier, have an oatmeal cookie before bedtime =)
    That could do it too.

    http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/T042400.asp
    http://www.psychics.co.uk/dreams/sleep.html

    Eating carbohydrates with tryptophan-containing foods makes this calming amino acid more available to the brain. A high carbohydrate meal stimulates the release of insulin, which helps clear from the bloodstream those amino acids that compete with tryptophan, allowing more of this natural sleep-inducing amino acid to enter the brain and manufacture sleep- inducing substances, such as serotonin and melatonin. Eating a high-protein meal without accompanying carbohydrates may keep you awake, since protein-rich foods also contain the amino acid, tyrosine, which perks up the brain.
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    LOL THAT IS SOO TRUE

    always have trouble sleeping when i have low carb dinners;

    too bad everyone says they're good for u
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    Or the fact when you eat a decent amount of complex carbs your body works harder to break them down and digest - hence tiredness.

    I'd try consuming some fruit in the mornings, a banana does a good job of waking you up initially giving time for you to digest the oats!
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    yea im thinking abt doing an experiment:

    morning: eat proteins/fats etc with fruit for carbs

    day: carbs / proteins / fats as per ususal

    early dinner: carbs/ proteins / fats as per ususal

    night: OATMEAL! (+whey)

    I shall keep my macros in check, only timing will be different

    Thing that concerns me is the whole carb/insulin limiting GH at night. Oh well, worth an experiment?

    My whole life ive found high carb dinners zonk me out; hated finding out they were 'bad' for you
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